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Opus Dei??? Anyone?
Golf4food said:So if people take it as simply a work of FICTION, it is entertaining. My problem is that it tries to pass itself off as 100% truth, when most of it is completely false.
ITA. He did copy the Holy Blood, Holy Grail book and got away with it.rie'smom said:The mystery,to me, is why a judge in England ruled that The daVinci Code was not a plagerized version of Holy Blood,Holy Grail,a non-fiction book which states in almost the same words exactly what Dan Brown.
DisneyGerry said:As an avid EWTN watcher, I see many if not all programs showing episodes against 'Davinci Code.' All say it is blasphemous to Christians. That is good enough to me not to bother with the movie/ book. I am curious since I love history, but I know curiousity killed the cat!
You may not wish to watch it. Heck, it may be a mediocre movie. But please don't rely on EWTN. You will be led into error for sure if you doDisneyGerry said:As an avid EWTN watcher, I see many if not all programs showing episodes against 'Davinci Code.' All say it is blasphemous to Christians. That is good enough to me not to bother with the movie/ book. I am curious since I love history, but I know curiousity killed the cat!
The judge did not rule that the ideas behind the DaVinci code were freely borrowed from "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" and other sources. He ruled that that was not illegal - writers are free to fictionalize "facts" written elsewhere without attributionrie'smom said:The mystery,to me, is why a judge in England ruled that The daVinci Code was not a plagerized version of Holy Blood,Holy Grail,a non-fiction book which states in almost the same words exactly what Dan Brown
wrote several years later.When I first started to read Brown's book, I thought," I read this several years ago."-it's that similar!
As for the conroversy, it's a work of fiction. Those who are influenced by the book/movie can't be that firm in their faith in the first place.
Some have posted that the church has lied in the past,yada yada,so it could be true-that's hokey reasoning! I don't get where that huge chasm is breached with inane statements like that.
Let's start at the beginning. One of the basic principles of copyright law is that you can't copyright historical facts, though you can own how you express those facts. Say you write the first article ever saying that John F. Kennedy had Addison's disease (a fact). If the law says that you now own that fact, almost anyone who wants to write about Kennedy's life or illnesses needs your permission. That's a broad right, one that's not just a damper on future scholarship and authorship but possibly a damper on that fact itselfyou might, for example, be a Kennedy loyalist who wants to keep his disease secret forever.
The authors of Holy Blood make a different argument. They say that it's one thing to repeat a fact or two. But it's another to steal the essence of a work that required an enormous effort to write and research. Holy Blood took 10 years to put together (though, according to its critics, it's still full of errors). And figuring out how to assemble the facts into a compelling work meant a lot of sweat. Back in 1982, Newsweek presciently said of Holy Blood that "the plot has all the elements of an international thriller." A similar argument persuaded an English court to rule for a plaintiff just like Leigh and his co-authors in the 1980 case of the Hofburg Spear. The premise was just that too much was stolen.
This is not a ridiculous argument. Why should Dan Brown be able to walk away with tens of millions of dollars if Leigh and his pals put in all the hard labor? The answer is that Leigh et al., had a choice: They could have decided to portray their work as fiction, not historyand that, in the words of American judge Frank Easterbrook, "makes all the difference." When you, as an author, make a claim to present the truth, you both gain something and lose something. You have a shot at changing what we think to be true, and you may gain reader interest. But you cannot own the truth the way you might own elements of a fictional story, like the character "Rocky." To claim the truth is fine, but to own it is not.
DisneyGerry said:As an avid EWTN watcher, I see many if not all programs showing episodes against 'Davinci Code.' All say it is blasphemous to Christians. That is good enough to me not to bother with the movie/ book. I am curious since I love history, but I know curiousity killed the cat!
I read somewhere that he loves his hair in the movie and so is going to keep it that way for a while. He's naturally curly, so I think it's been chemically straightened.crazee4mickey said:The only thing I know about it is that Tom Hanks is in the movie with really, really BAD HAIR (worse than his usual!)![]()
sodaseller said:The judge did not rule that the ideas behind the DaVinci code were freely borrowed from "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" and other sources. He ruled that that was not illegal - writers are free to fictionalize "facts" written elsewhere without attribution
http://www.slate.com/id/2137797/