When does Disney stop letting you enter attraction lines?

[Zbornak]

I don't think it's an take advantage of situation. I'm not feeling sorry for WDW or CMs or anyone here. All I'm saying is that whenever a perk gets well known, and once it becomes something that people expect as normal, then WDW has to make an evaluation as to whether it's beneficial or not.

Here's my example: When I was in college I was editor of the school newspaper. I had my own office and everything, and one thing I did was keep a big flower vase filled with candy for people to come in and take when they felt like a sugar rush. Build a little morale, that kind of thing. But a few weeks in, candy started vanishing quickly and by the end of my second month, the candy jar would be empty every day. People were going in when I wasn't there and loading up. They weren't wrong or bad because they were just taking what I had offered. But after a while, when I'm going through a full bag of candy a day, I decided it wasn't worth it to keep refilling. When people asked me why, I kind of shrugged. Someone complained. I shrugged. The benefit I had offered actually became a thing people held against me a bit. That and my yelling

So to me, if too many people are getting into line later and later -- especially with the (until this year) escalating crowd levels -- and increasing CM time operating rides, then WDW will make a cost/benefit analysis. Even above, where welikeliza explained the CM situation, some department has an additional cost, and if that cost gets bigger than WDW wants it to be, they'll limit the cost somehow. We've all seen that happen in a lot of ways.

I get it. I had the same thing happen to me with cases of bottled water I brought into work. I set an expectation that it was ok for others to help themselves, but the water was disappearing too fast. Even though I offered it only to a handful of co-workers, word must've spread and the demand was more than I was willing to keep up with. So, like you, I stopped supplying the perk. But one thing I wonder in this situation is how many people are aware of it, and how many people are willing to take advantage of it? Most people are tired after a park day and are anxious to leave the parks.

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

I get it. I had the same thing happen to me with cases of bottled water I brought into work. I set an expectation that it was ok for others to help themselves, but the water was disappearing too fast. Even though I offered it only to a handful of co-workers, word must've spread and the demand was more than I was willing to keep up with. So, like you, I stopped supplying the perk. But one thing I wonder in this situation is how many people are aware of it, and how many people are willing to take advantage of it? Most people are tired after a park day and are anxious to leave the parks.

Disney stops supplying the perk on an as-needed basis all the time--by closing a queue before park closing time if they estimate that the queue wait will grow too long to get people out of the park and onto the last buses at hard closing time. It doesn't matter how many people are aware of it (which is most guests) or try to use it (which is a minority of guests), because Disney controls the situation as described in the previous sentence as part of the existing operational procedure for park closing that @whiporee, to whom you responded, keeps suggesting doesn't control for that situation. There is no way for their "candy jar" example to happen, specifically because Disney has already planned to ensure that it can't happen. It doesn't matter how many "examples" they throw out there.

 

[Accident]

That's been my only real point on this thread -- once people start making the demand that they can enter any ride up until park closing ("and really, what's another couple of minutes, right? My kid's been wanting to do this all day, and it's only 10:03? No? You let them on and they were just in front of us! Whatever happened to putting the customer first?! WDW has lost its magic!") then WDW will adjust its policies accordingly. I don't know how they will adjust them, but I imagine they eventually will, just like they've adjusted all the others.

I see them tell people no all the time. does this ever happen? sure, they do have some power and they know there is a lot less people on a certain night and nobody else is rushing to get in also I can see it happening. i'm ok with this, the cm had the choice and decided to pixie dust their situation. They are empowered to do certain things but when it's one of the rare nights that closed means closed or there is 20-30 people behind them, the answer will be no and is.

 

[ConnecticutNonna]

That is not what I said. They stay open because that is the time allotted to have people leave. I didn't say don't get in the line, that is Disney's policy. If you are in the line by closing time you stay and ride. The same isn't true of the stores though. That should be a situation where when they ask people to leave (like an hour after) people should leave at that time. Many do not. That is what and whom I was referring too, not the legitimate customers that are generally expected to lag behind. I don't think that the operating hours are an hour longer. That's how long it takes to get people to stop entering and close up. I also didn't ask anyone to feel guilty, what I asked was that people show just a little concern over the people that have to stay longer because people think that they own the place and refuse to just get out.

Pretty harsh words...
I think perhaps you are confusing Disney with other places of business.
Again, CMs' schedules reflect the actual times they are to leave the park and clock out. On a night where MK closes at 10pm, those CMs have a shift ending at 12:00 or 12:30 am, NOT 10pm.
And no one thinks they "own the place" because they choose to take part in specific Disney magic, such as the kiss goodnight or walking down a deserted Main Street at 11:30 pm. This is expected and encouraged behavior!
The shops DO NOT stay open later than their scheduled hours holding hapless store clerks hostage. Again, the shops close long after posted park closing and CMs individual schedules reflect this.
Please be kinder in your tone... We all respect your opinion, however it is just that, not a fact, but an opinion. We aren't "refusing" to get out, we are enjoying the magic, and no, I don't think I own the place...
Please have a magical day!

 

[hiroMYhero]

The correct answer to the OP's question was in Post #3. So, now that 100+ posts have been added and the thread is now at a "Have a Magical Day" level, closing.