I can relate to both of these situations - my dh took his mask off, while sitting on a bench outside Muppet Vision to drink some water and eat a quick snack. He finished the snack and continued drinking water. He put the lid on his cup and bent down to put it in his backpack. When he sat back up, immediately a CM was on him to put his mask on. If she had waited 5 secs, she would have seen that he would have put it back on, very willingly, himself. That really annoyed my dh because he & I and all 4 of our kids were following all of Disney's rules regarding mask and distancing.

And then yep, my 9yo's mask fell below his nose on splash. Just barely below but we didn't get the ride photo and two CM's got on to him (both at the same time so it seemed harsher than it really was) as soon as they saw. I don't think he even realized it had slid down. He's excellent about keeping a mask on...even though it fogs up his glasses...he still never fights it or even asks to take it off. I could feel mine sliding down on several attractions.
If your masks are sliding down, you really need a new mask. A well fitted one or one with a nose wire will not slide down. A mask that slips down exposes your nose is like an umbrella with a giant hole in the middle—it does not offer protection to you or anyone else.
 
I can relate to both of these situations - my dh took his mask off, while sitting on a bench outside Muppet Vision to drink some water and eat a quick snack. He finished the snack and continued drinking water. He put the lid on his cup and bent down to put it in his backpack. When he sat back up, immediately a CM was on him to put his mask on. If she had waited 5 secs, she would have seen that he would have put it back on, very willingly, himself. That really annoyed my dh because he & I and all 4 of our kids were following all of Disney's rules regarding mask and distancing.

And then yep, my 9yo's mask fell below his nose on splash. Just barely below but we didn't get the ride photo and two CM's got on to him (both at the same time so it seemed harsher than it really was) as soon as they saw. I don't think he even realized it had slid down. He's excellent about keeping a mask on...even though it fogs up his glasses...he still never fights it or even asks to take it off. I could feel mine sliding down on several attractions.

Yeah! I felt it slide down when I moved my mouth on Splash and it was SOAKED because we were in the front row. I was certain that I wouldn't get my ride photo, but we did. It's one thing to be blatantly disregarding rules, but quite another to be following them and have something like that happen... and to have a CM not realize that isn't fair to guests. She could have just said, "Sir please make sure your mask stays up above your nose" in a normal tone of voice and he would have apologized. But she was so rude. We brushed it off.. but still. It's a training point. You don't need to go out of your way to make someone look bad or embarrass them.
 
If your masks are sliding down, you really need a new mask. A well fitted one or one with a nose wire will not slide down. A mask that slips down exposes your nose is like an umbrella with a giant hole in the middle—it does not offer protection to you or anyone else.

if your mask is soaking wet and you move your mouth it will certainly slide beneath your nose because its literally plastered to your face. We both had cloth masks that fit securely, behind the ears and under the chin.
 
A couple of questions. I listened to a blog and they said that hardly any of the stores were open in Epcot's WS. None in England, China Germany and they thought Italy and Japan were also closed. Can someone please confirm? I thought it was just the CS and some TS closed. Also, only two more days until we make our TS resv. There is really not a lot of choices, we had planned on having dinner a couple of nights at DS but after hearing the reviews regarding distancing issues and less stringent mask wearing we are crossing DS off our list except for 1 or 2 early lunches. Our party includes a 1 and 3 year old, what are your thoughts about resv CA Grill or Tiffins. If there was a meltdown we would absolutely remove the little offender but the 1 year old in particular can be loud, really cute, sweet and adorable but a real chatter. I don't want to get the death stare.

Hi Alice, can't speak to the Grill for 1 and 3 but we took my grandkids to Tiffins and they were fine, although I think they were 2 and 3 at the time. It wasn't busy when we went, we went in at opening and didn't have an ADR but now I think that's more necessary.

As far as any restaurant, I've taken ours wherever I want to go if the restaurant doesn't prohibit children. Same with my own when they were small - my youngest who is 28 this month dined happily at CG when she was 4 and onward. It's me that's sort of burned out on CG, not that it isn't good, I just want to try everything.

The only place I ever had to remove with a grand was a Sunday brunch in a very casual tavern - she went all wackadoodle on us, plus knocked over my orange juice onto the bench seat where I was sitting, screamed and generally caused a ruckus. Didn't see that before and haven't seen it since, but it can happen. I took her out so the rest could eat in some kind of peace and I was all wet anyway. Made me wary for the following dining events but they turned out okay.
 

I believe much of the problem with eating and drinking and a mask being off is that people are doing things other than actively eating or drinking. Surfing your phone, talking and laughing with those around you, and putting your food and drink away are not actively eating. That is why cast members are asking you to put your mask back on. I am happy they are doing it.
 
A couple of questions. I listened to a blog and they said that hardly any of the stores were open in Epcot's WS. None in England, China Germany and they thought Italy and Japan were also closed. Can someone please confirm? I thought it was just the CS and some TS closed. Also, only two more days until we make our TS resv. There is really not a lot of choices, we had planned on having dinner a couple of nights at DS but after hearing the reviews regarding distancing issues and less stringent mask wearing we are crossing DS off our list except for 1 or 2 early lunches. Our party includes a 1 and 3 year old, what are your thoughts about resv CA Grill or Tiffins. If there was a meltdown we would absolutely remove the little offender but the 1 year old in particular can be loud, really cute, sweet and adorable but a real chatter. I don't want to get the death stare.

A lot of stores ARE closed, with apparently no plans to re-open any time soon. Looking in the windows this past weekend, no plexi shields in site, so no plans to open. Unfortunately, two of the stores we specifically went to Studios to visit were on the closed list. At Epcot, Germany, Norway, Japan, Italy, Mexico and Morocco were all partially open. England's tea shop was open, but not the rest.

You can go to your Disney experience app, go to the map, instead of looking for wait times, look at merchandise. It will tell you what is open and what is closed ('temporarily unavailable'). Same for dining options. I should have done that myself before the trip. We didn't notice that Backlot Express closed early, so I missed out on getting a Wookie Cookie :(

Maybe because it was 99+ degrees with heat indexes in the 105+ range, but we did not run into any overly zealous CM mask police at Epcot nor at Studios. At Studios, every window service eatery with seating (even the dining locations that were closed) had most of the 'open' tables full of people with their masks off. They got fuller as the day went on. To the point that some did not have any open tables. Many had water or other liquids trying to stay hydrated, but even without "actively heating and drinking", if you were seated, you were left alone since the tables were already socially distanced. They became de facto 'relaxation' areas.

Woody's Lunchbox, as an example, in Toy Story Land is closed, but their seating area was full a good bit of the afternoon. "Open" tables had the umbrellas open to provide shade, with all the fans in the area on high. There was only one food/drink cart in the whole land, so not a lot of "actively" drinking or eating going on as there wasn't much to buy in that area. Did I mention it felt like 105+ degrees out? Maybe it was suppose to be an official relaxation area, but there were no signs to that effect.

On the attractions side, several folks in lines would slip their mask down to drink water, or briefly to talk to each other (VERY briefly to help clarify a specific word, for example, that got muffled in the mask). A mom with a handful of young ones took her mask off while entering the theater with Mickey's vacation short film. The young one she was holding may have aided in pulling it down to start with. She got everyone situated, sat down herself, and put the mask back on without any CM berating her. In that instant, the CM at the control station watched her and I'm sure would have said something if the mask had not gone back on, but waited to give the mom the chance to do it herself.

If you don't want to see a random nose or maskless faces sitting in the shade, don't go. Because you WILL see them. There are still some semi-see through one layer masks as well. Just because someone wore a thick one at the gate, doesn't mean they didn't swap it out later in the day. If that doesn't bother you, lines are reasonably short, but a lot of the shops and food options are closed. Yes, you will hear about some CM's going above and beyond, some borderline militant, with enforcement, but they are outnumbered by those that understand the reality and know most people are not trying to "beat the system", but are just doing the best they can.

An issue that larger families need to be aware of is if you are a group larger than 4 you have to separate in pretty much all theater type attractions (Muppetvision, Canada circle vision, etc). So mom, dad and 3 kids ... figure out how you are going to break up and sit because they will only let 4 people sit together. I get that that's the "easy" way to make sure there are gaps between each group. They have stickers on the seats you aren't allowed to stand in. Makes less sense in circle visions that you stand in, but okay, still easier than telling folks "make sure you leave 4 empty seats between you and the next group of people".
 
If your masks are sliding down, you really need a new mask. A well fitted one or one with a nose wire will not slide down. A mask that slips down exposes your nose is like an umbrella with a giant hole in the middle—it does not offer protection to you or anyone else.


Having just been there for a week, I can tell you that masks can, do , and will continue to move around on your face. It was 90+ degrees every day with a feel-like temp over 100 everyday.
We had a group of 8 and each had their own designer mask plus a batch of 50 of the blue masks for spares kept in our backpack as backups. We washed our cotton masks nightly because of the face sweat and smells that become trapped inside. For the people accustomed to using a mask for a grocery store trip in a climate controlled environment, you may be in for a surprise after being in the heat for hours on end. You will constantly readjust your mask throughout the day - whether you know you're doing it or not.

As far as CMs reminding people about their masks, I thought they did a good job and didn't see any of them being over the top with their reminders nor did I see or hear anyone replying in a negative manner to the CMs. It's an uncomfortable situation for all parties to be sure.

For the guests giving the "death stares" or taking it upon themselves to police other people's masks - you should be very careful. By stepping into someone else's personal space and pointing fingers, chastising, and making them feel threatened in general in any way - the situation can go sideways ( and not in your favor ) at any moment. If you really feel the need to do this, I would advise you to think really hard about the consequence of your actions. You are not the mask police and a theme park may not be the place for you to be at this time if you feel strongly enough to confront others. Let the CMs handle the situations as they did an excellent job of reminding people in a gentle way.
 
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My biggest problem with masks is the fact that I cannot hear well after 22 surgeries on my ears since birth, so I rely also on reading lips. When my wife is not with me it can become extremely difficult to understand what someone is saying sometimes. When we ordered food or drink at a TS I often relied on her to repeat what was asked of me. So to my point, while in the line to FOP at DAK, wife asked me something I could not hear or understand...after saying it a couple of times, she pulled her mask down for the time it took her to ask me what time dinner was at...and the lady behind us gave us the dirtiest look. Wasn't the end of the world, and the 2 seconds it took for her to pull her mask below her face was not going to kill anyone....but you would have thought we were assassins out to wipe out her and her family. Wonder what she would have thought when i asked the CM at bell services to pull his mask down so I could understand him. So for me I have no problem wearing a mask...but for selfish reasons, I wish nobody else did...lol
 
My biggest problem with masks is the fact that I cannot hear well after 22 surgeries on my ears since birth, so I rely also on reading lips. When my wife is not with me it can become extremely difficult to understand what someone is saying sometimes. When we ordered food or drink at a TS I often relied on her to repeat what was asked of me. So to my point, while in the line to FOP at DAK, wife asked me something I could not hear or understand...after saying it a couple of times, she pulled her mask down for the time it took her to ask me what time dinner was at...and the lady behind us gave us the dirtiest look. Wasn't the end of the world, and the 2 seconds it took for her to pull her mask below her face was not going to kill anyone....but you would have thought we were assassins out to wipe out her and her family. Wonder what she would have thought when i asked the CM at bell services to pull his mask down so I could understand him. So for me I have no problem wearing a mask...but for selfish reasons, I wish nobody else did...lol

I can very much relate! I suffered from permanent hearing loss as a toddler and didn't realize how much I relied on lip reading until masks became mandated for workers. Fortunately, most around here wear them as chin straps so I can still understand them! At the parks this past weekend, several times I had to ask my hubby to give me clues as to what was being asked, or for him to just answer for me. I would LOVE for no one to wear them and would enjoy the parks so much more. I asked both Disney and Universal if I could ask CMs to pull theirs down (I didn't want to ask if it would get the CM in trouble). Both responded that it would be better if I had someone with me that could communicate for me. To say the least, a very un-ADA friendly response, if not an outright violation, but I just let hubby do the listening.

The one time is was especially problematic was going thru security at the front of Studios. Hubby was already walking thru, I had the bag and was having to guess as to what I was being told to do with electronics, etc. After about the 3rd or 4th time of trying to say it so I could understand him, CM/security guy put his hands out in front of him to demonstrate that he wanted me to hold the bag and cell phone out in front of me while going thru metal detector, and that he just wanted to make sure I didn't have an umbrella in the bag. Communication had gotten a little comical at that point. There isn't a lot of consistency with security (put metal in bin, put metal in clear bag, hold it in front of you, hold it over your head, phone in pocket is fine, etc), so the masks can be problematic for hearing impaired as we guess our way through.
 
On the mask topic, I work outdoors and we have been required to wear masks for months now. I have found that the disposable paper masks work best and I have not had any issues with them slipping while I work (physical job with a lot of bending over and working in the heat every day) and they are the easiest to breathe through. Mine have a wire around the nose which helps a lot. I agree that if you find your mask is slipping, it's time to find a better one.
 
I know it would never happen, but I wish they would implement a warning system based on your ticket media. If they give you a warning, they scan your ticket/magicband and and it logs the warning. If you get scanned twice in one day, you're out and not allowed to re-enter for the rest of the day.
I HAD THAT SAME THOUGHT!!!
(great minds)
 
Here’s my report back! We are staying at pop and after Debating between Lyft and Skyliner, decided to go Skyliner. My husband is an early bird and volunteered to go down real early to the Skyliner line. He was in line about 7:50 and was 5th in line. We joined him about 8:40. Skyliner started a few minutes after 9, transfer was pretty quick, and we were in Hollywood studious by about 9:30. We even got in line for MMRR and rode it, getting off at 9:59 😳just in time to sign up for ROR. Whole family tried for a boarding pass and my daughter who lives in Connecticut actually was the one to snag our passes for us, boarding group 15! If you are ok getting up early, Skyliner was awesome. The line got long pretty fast. Best of luck to you!

I am just wondering how many people are in your party and how the people behind your husband reacted when the group arrived after 50 mins of him being in line. Was this a problem at all?
 
Did anyone happen to notice if the refillable water stations were working? We are debating what do for water on our upcoming trip.
 
Hi friend! We ate at Via Napoli in Italy and shopped in Japan (can't remember if any restaurants were open). Much of the WS is closed. We didn't even spend a full day at Epcot - makes me sad to say cause we love EP - but there just wasn't much to do outside of Future World, and we all know how sparse that is right now.
Hi @wendow! Thank you for this info, we have 2 days planned at Epcot. Maybe we will drop it down to just one if there aren't more things to do before our trip. We were thinking about Sea World maybe we'll move that up to our 2nd Epcot day.
 
My biggest problem with masks is the fact that I cannot hear well after 22 surgeries on my ears since birth, so I rely also on reading lips. When my wife is not with me it can become extremely difficult to understand what someone is saying sometimes. When we ordered food or drink at a TS I often relied on her to repeat what was asked of me. So to my point, while in the line to FOP at DAK, wife asked me something I could not hear or understand...after saying it a couple of times, she pulled her mask down for the time it took her to ask me what time dinner was at...and the lady behind us gave us the dirtiest look. Wasn't the end of the world, and the 2 seconds it took for her to pull her mask below her face was not going to kill anyone....but you would have thought we were assassins out to wipe out her and her family. Wonder what she would have thought when i asked the CM at bell services to pull his mask down so I could understand him. So for me I have no problem wearing a mask...but for selfish reasons, I wish nobody else did...lol

That's a bummer. I really feel for people with hearing impairments right now. I have excellent hearing but still couldn't hear some of the CMs above the fans and BGM. I can't imagine if I had a hard time hearing normally. I would have been tempted to tell the woman with the death stare that I have hearing difficulties. But we shouldn't judge anyway. We don't know anyone's particular situation.

Did anyone happen to notice if the refillable water stations were working? We are debating what do for water on our upcoming trip.

They were, but be careful. I saw some kids licking the water dispensing part of the fountain/dispenser in SWGE.
 
In Germany the stores next to Caramel Kuche are open- the Christmas tree ornament store, the one with the Germany gear in it (steins/tees), and the wine bar. Only stores closed in Germany are the ones across the way with the toys/clocks.

No stores open in Italy. And although it says Tutto Gusto is open, its actually just overflow for Tutto Italia.

In American Pavilion, the art store is open.
Well at least they got the right store open in Germany ;)
 
How do your toddlers do in restaurants at home? As other posters have mentioned, it’s WDW and we expect to see children everywhere.

The only times I have felt like giving or given the death stare are when people lack common courtesy (kid’s tablet or phone blaring videos at full volume with no headphones, woman using her phone flashlight inside a restaurant and shining it in our eyes at a nearby table) or when parents have children in “adult spaces” obviously after bedtime. I say that last part only because the times we’ve seen kids at restaurants late at night, the poor kids are obviously exhausted and acting out and it’s not their fault they’re out of their normal routine.

While I am only aware of age limits at Trader Sam’s, I think it is courteous to assume that it is an “adult space” at pretty much any lounge on property after 8 or 8:30 pm. Tiffins is actually in the theme park so I think it’s kind of expected to see littles there at any time, but AK closes way before bedtime.
You raise a good point we would be resv the earliest possible seating nor would we let the babies terrorize other diners. I think we will pass on CG but will go to Tiffins. Thanks
 
You raise a good point we would be resv the earliest possible seating nor would we let the babies terrorize other diners. I think we will pass on CG but will go to Tiffins. Thanks
I know your babies won’t terrorize anyone, you seem very conscientious! I hope you all have a fabulous trip and some great meals. (And I truly apologize if I made it seem like your toddlers would offend anyone!)
 














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