Becoming Lean, Mean, Endurace Event Machines in 2008

First, I just want to say HI! :wave: I am finally getting back into the grove and hope to find some time today to get caught up on everyone. I will be back later for that!

I posted my TR on the main Events Forum for whomever is interested... It's got lots of pics. The first part is mainly race stuff then a bit on the rest of the vacation.

Be back lata!

Stacie
 
Hi guys and pretty princesses.

Lisa thanks for the information. I totally agree about getting your nutrition from natural sources, for several reasons:

1. You never know exactly what's in those pills you take becasue they are totally not regulated. There are no FDA requirements at all.

2. You don't know the long term effects of taking a lot of something. Once in a while we hear how a supplement has been removed from the shelves because it was shown to contribute to something negative.

3. You never really know what needs something else to activate it in your body, for exampe needing to eat rice and beans together to get a complete protien.

4. There is no magic pill so I try to avoid relying on anything like that.


I do like you take a multi vitamin just in case I'm missing something in my diet.


On another subject: 6 weeks ago I took my heart rate after a mile walking at 12 min per mile, it was 153, today after a mile at 12 mpm my heart rate was 144. So I'm doing that pace with less effort now.

Maria, when I have a munchie attack like that I get a big bowl of a good whole grain cereal, cut up a banana on it and use skim milk. I can eat it slow enouth that by the time I'm done the starved shark within is appeased.

Tracy, hope the foot feels better, I have nothing to add to what Mike said, it's sound advice.

AmyBeth, I'm still doing the core stuff, just dot much posting time here lately.

Everyone have an awesome day.

Walking Panda:hippie:
 
Hi Everyone!

So yesterday evening the other mommy and her kids didn't show for gymnastics, and by the time I knew they really weren't coming, it was too late to leave. So, I did half an hour on the TM at home. Not what exactly what I was going for, but better than nothing.

I think tonight I will have the chance for a longer walk, or a bike ride. We'll see how it shakes out.

Dave -- The cereal idea is fantastic! I'm also full after a bowl of Kashi, so I'm going to resolve to do that the next time my knickers are in a twist ('cause of course it will happen again!). ;)

Stacie -- Just jump in where we are, we're glad to have you back! :banana:

Mike -- Thanks for the heel pain advice. I occasionally have issues, too, so it's good to read.

Beth -- I'm choosing to view it as a victory that my new idea of pigging out is a 100 calorie pack! :lmao: This is a vast improvement from a sleeve of Thin Mints!

Tracey -- Yeah for 4 miles! :woohoo:

Lisa -- Please keep the advice coming. I think you are our new sage :yoda:

Vic -- I think you and dh went to the same school for shopping procedures. He gets militant at any deviations in the projected schedule. :rolleyes1

Connie -- Ok, I would be stunned if my pants just pooled around my feet. I understand being disconcerted, but it's a good thing!:yay:

Amy -- I couldn't take 3 classes in one day, let alone teach them. You are a lean, mean fitness machine! :thumbsup2

Debra -- You are definitely going to do "weight training" with your move! I admire you for your willingness to do it by yourself. I would be ridiculously flustered. If you get bored while DOOD's away, we're always here! :goodvibes

Who's Feelin' Lean and Mean?! :cool2:
Maria
 
Amy: Hi and thanks for asking a great question!! I take a vegetarian/vegan multivitamin and vegetarian/vegan glucosmine chondroitin regularly. I don't know how many of you know this, but GC pills usually contain shellfish, which means they're not kosher either. I take GC all year round, as does DOOD. We also take Cytomax--I guess we're sweaters, too--when we're training. Like most other people, you included, we try to eat a balanced diet so we're not reliant on supplements; sometimes, though, it's hard to do. (I'm currently obsessed with good fats and getting enough fiber!) I've also been experimenting with making my own protein bars with soy or whey protein, but none of the recipes have turned out as palatable or as well-balanced as a Clif bar. :sad2: And why do YOUR conferences sound like there's so much good information involved? I definitely need a career switch. P.S. I'm still with you on doing the core work, but right now I've maxed out my posting time for WISH things. :rolleyes:

Stacie: I definitely recommend weight training, and add it onto my XT days--and sometimes my running ones, as I'm not always that organized. But I'm loving these suggestions, as I know I tend to fall into a rut and need to mix things up. I read your TR, and think you and Matt are just the cutest couple! And in terms of the Minnie I'm so proud of you, and Susan, too!

Maria: Woo hoo for the subway sprint and for the mommy movement. I really think that increasing my daily activity level, outside the exercise, is what has been helping me with energy levels, overall stress, and even a couple of pounds. So I'm delighted that you're sticking to that plan. Speaking of plans, whoever came up with 100 calorie packs is a marketing genius! I've been following Lisa's suggestion to pre-bag everything, including my snacks, and that helps me too. I think I need to stamp the calories on my bags in big red letters! WTG with the TM; even if it's not what you wanted to do, you treated yourself to a WO!

In terms of my housing and the Hilton, but I'd love to live in hotels for the rest of my life. Room service, you know? :rolleyes1 It'd probably be more enjoyable than moving boxes, if not as good for me. I don't really mind doing the moving by myself once the furniture is gone. I mean, DOOD had his trip planned way before we knew about the move, so it makes no sense for him to cancel it. Plus, I know he'd do it for me if the situations were reversed. I consider myself very lucky to be with someone who always has my back.

Connie: Hate those sneaky migraines--I actually think they hit harder than the ones you can feel coming, and leave you fuzzy for days afterward. I'd love to come do the trail run with you in TX, I would! I've never visited your fair state, believe it or not. And we have friends who now live out that way. But it's not in the budget cards this year. :sad1: I am trying to convince DOOD to plan a race trip out that way for sometime in 2009, as he's doing the 50 state marathon gig.

Vic: So is there a SOP for amending a SOP? That's something I probably learned in my 20s. Why brewer's yeast in your shakes? I may have forgotten the answer to this in an earlier post--sorry!

Lisa: Spot-on advice, as usual! I think your assessment of circuit training being good for those of us who get bored easily is brilliant. That's me, and I do note that I really need to focus with free weights--hard after my running or a full XT day--and my form suffers. What I probably need is advice for how to stay focused while challenging myself; a lost cause, I think.

Tracey: Well, I can't think of anyone who I'd rather be influenced by, even if you are turning me into a girly girl! :rotfl2: My new digs are only about two miles away, on the "better" side of the Frick Park area (Squirrel Hill, if anyone here knows it). I'll be rubbing elbows with people wearing better clothes, so I hope I'm not all runny-sweaty when I meet them. :rolleyes1 Real estate. It's all about location. I'm sorry to hear about your heel pain, btw. I think Mike's covered the basics, and my heel pain is almost always related to #1 and what kind of activity I've been doing the day or so prior. (It's usually sedentary, I've found.) I hope his advice helps!

Beth: It's funny, because as much as I love the DOODster, I really love him when he's away on these trips. He does one of these every year, except last year when we moved. And when it came time for him to be gone, and he was still with me, I was more than a little edgy. I like my alone time, I guess! But you're right about the absence/heart/fonder, because by the end of that month I'm glad to have him back. I'm sorry to hear about your struggle of a run; do you know if it's a cold or allergies at this point?

Mike: Great information, as usual. I haven't checked out the Trader Joe's supplements, but will do so in the near future. Their prices are usually pretty good, and much cheaper than my food coop for these kinds of things.

Dave: That's wonderful news about the HR dropping and keeping the pace with less effort! :woohoo: You've really come back from your injuries stronger than before and, if you don't mind me saying, with a stronger mindset and the focus to achieve your goals. You've really shifted your routine up, and I admire that.

As for me: Not much going on. Did my 30 minutes of running today, plus Pilates. (Meant to do those yesterday, didn't and needed to. Got involved with House instead. Evil, evil TV!) We're starting to pack up a few things, but nothing too intense; I'm planning on moving slowly over June as long as we need to pay rent at two places. That means moving shouldn't interfere too much with my summer leisure time during DOOD's absence. Of course, that time includes time spent with my WISHmates, but I'm also thinking of sneaking in a trip to our local amusement park, Kennywood. Anyone been?

One last thing, folks. Explain to me this slow twitch/fast twitch thing. How does one know what one is? I mean, I think I'm just slow and not particularly suited for sprints or distances. (But don't tell my body that--it's in denial.)
 

I'm back... :goodvibes

Beth...I'm so sorry to hear that you have been sick. Bummer!

Mike...Yay for being down 50lbs. I'm glad to hear you thought it was funny what your HS GF said. Not very nice. hmp!

Connie...Hi

Tracey...Girls on the Run! Way to go! That sounds awesome and girls really do need something like that.

Deb...Yay on the new place!!! Congrats! You'll definately get plenty of XT/Weight training in the month of June! Thanks for the comments about my TR! I'm very proud of my family and hope to wrangle them in to do a few local races too. Especially my mom. Matt and I have been told before that we would have cute babies...only time will tell. Not planning on that anytime soon. Gotta drop some weight and get that 1/2 Marathon in!

Maria...Great job getting out and working out in the AM!

Vic...SOPs! Sounds exciting! :rolleyes:

Lisa...Great suggestions on the Weight Training! My problem is just getting it in. I'm guessing one day isn't enough. Hmmm. Maybe I can find a second day...

For me...Not much activity lately. Just trying to get back into the swing of things from WDW. I'm almost at that 25lb loss mark! I keep playing w/ those same darn lbs! I LOVE the 100 Cal packs! Yah, I'm w/ Deb. I don't think I'm cut out for sprints or distances. hmm. What to do... I guess as I continue to train, I'll figure that out.

Panda, Bill... Anyone else I missed... :wave:

Stacie
 
Debra Slow Twitch and Fast twitch refers to muscle fiber. Slow twitch people have a huge burst of energy, ie the clean and jerk (that's a weight lifting thing) and a sprint. The fast twitch fibers are good for the endurance racer. The best way to explain it is: The car rolls over on the child. A fast twitch person runs 6 miles down the road for help, runs back and the kid hasn't even started crying yet. The slow twitch babe, (me) grabs the car and flips it off the kid! ;) -- Let me know when you come to Texas. If it's not the furthest end, I will meet you! -- I am so glad someone else feels icky about a massage and not just me! Of all the options in a masseuse, my first choice would be a gay man. That way neither one of us is interested! :lmao:

Beth Hey girl! I am here and I am doing pretty well! I have a drippy allergy eye, though. I hate that. I hope you are feeling better! I really hate that rule of thumb that says: If it hurts from the neck up, workout. If it hurts below the neck, rest. I think that person NEVER had an allergy or headache or nothing!

Maria Congrats on the TM movement. I know that the TM is sort of settling, but at least you had it available. Hope you get that bike ride in, today. Btw, I love the pooled comment! I will have to remember that one!

Dave Woohoo! You are getting totally efficient!

Vic We have the same attitude towards shopping! I like it! :thumbsup2

Mike Great info! Thanks!

Tracely Heel pain....Hell pain?? LOL Just a matter of spelling really. I have been having heel pain for awhile. I had both plantar faciatus and achilles tendonitis together! I am finally getting them gone. Stretching is the very best cure for the long term, short term, as Mike said, RICE!

Stacely I am off to check out your race report and photos! Good job!

As for me: Not so good eating, yesterday. I only had a 300 calorie deficit, but heck that sure does beat surplus! See ya.........I'm outta here!! Connie
 
Connie...The whole massage thing.... DH and I had our first massage at SSR resort. I wasn't quite sure what to expect. It was very nice though!

DH made a huge deal about how he wanted a woman to do it, not a man. My sister told him she had never even seen a man there before. We arrive to our appt and guess what. He's assigned a man massuese! :lmao: I had to request a change at the check in desk for woman him. So funny!

For our anniversary we received a gift certificate from his family for a couples massage. yay! Hopefully we'll go in a few weeks for it.

Stacie
 
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Debra Slow Twitch and Fast twitch refers to muscle fiber. Slow twitch people have a huge burst of energy, ie the clean and jerk (that's a weight lifting thing) and a sprint. The fast twitch fibers are good for the endurance racer. The best way to explain it is: The car rolls over on the child. A fast twitch person runs 6 miles down the road for help, runs back and the kid hasn't even started crying yet. The slow twitch babe, (me) grabs the car and flips it off the kid! ;)

I always thought that it was opposite, that fast twitch expended energy fast, and that slow twitch was good for endurance events...

Mike
 
Folks, I was looking for a couple of specific posts in our threads and, somehow, this list of links was born. I thought it might be useful for me to maintain here, with a link from my siggie. Our conversations have included tons of useful tips and information that I think would be useful to be able to access. Ignore it if you'd like or, if there's a post you'd like to remove (as it links to all our personal conversations) or add, let me know. Bill, if you want to use this stuff on the main page, I'm sure I could PM it to you.


MOTIVATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT
Earn This
Treat Yourself Like Your Best Friend
If It Were Easy....
It's Time to Take Care of You
Get Back to the Joy...and Make a Better Future
Short Term. Vs. Long-Term Goals
Fitness is Not a Destination but a Journey
Build a Streak and Count the Small Successes
Visualize Success and Expose Yourself
We Will Not Be Moved


EXERCISE
Heel Pain
Interval Training
Pilates DVD Recommendations: 10 Minute Solution -- Rapid Results Pilates and Pilates for Dummies
Resetting your Natural Pace
Pool Running for Stretching
Slow Twitch/Fast Twitch: Part One
Slow Twitch/Fast Twitch: Part Two
Stretching
Weight Training/Circuit Training


FUELING/EATING

EATING PLANS/SUGGESTIONS
"You Can Do It," Fitness Magazine (May)
Using WW Points/Activities and Eating
Using WW Points/Food Suggestions

TIPS ON EMOTIONAL EATING
Beck Diet Solution Tip
Hunger Awareness Scale

HEALTHY FOODS & RECIPES
Biggest Loser Peanut-Butter Oatmeal Cookies
Ezekiel Breads
Green Tea
Honey Crisp Energy Bars
Lisa's Energy Bar
Lisa's Flax Bread
Low-Carb Banana Nut Muffins
Mike's Recovery Shake and Values
No-Pudge Protein Brownie (not quite a protein bar/not quite a brownie)
Peanut Butter: Food Processor
The Healthy PB & J Sandwich Question and Detailed Responses: Part I , and Part II
Runner's World Walnut & Blueberry Bran Pancakes and suggested substitutes

MEETING FUELING NEEDS
Athletes and Protein (Runner's World May 2008)
Calculating your Metabolic Rate
Conversion to Kilograms from Pounds
Perimenopause and Calorie Needs
Protein Supplements & Lactose Intolerance
Vegetarian Protein Needs
Warning: Too Much Protein

FUELING ON THE RUN
General Info on bars, beans, gels, gus and AccelGel
AccelGel
Accelerade & Whey Powder
Clif Bars
Consuming Gels: tip
Fig Newtons

"THE WEIGHT-LOSS TRAIN" TIPS (thanks, Beth, for the title!)
No Food before Bedtime
Chromium Tip from Protein Power
Keep It Simple: Holiday Eating Tip
Nancy Clark's Keys to a Successful Sports Diet
Pay Attention to Portion Size
Drink Your Water
Good Fats, not Belly Fat
Don't be a Porch Sitter
Buy at Local Farmers' Markets
Have a Plan
Prepackaged Portion Control: Eating Out
Eat a Colorful Diet of Fruits and Veggies
Intervals and Calories


SUPPLEMENTS
Amy's Supplement Question & Weight Training Follow-Up
Connie's Response
Vic's Response
Lisa's Response
Mike's Response
Dave's Response
Debra's Response
Chromium Tip from Protein Power


GEAR AND OTHER TRAINING AIDS

GENERAL/MISC.
Bodybugg
Chafing Solutions: Desitin and Saddle Butter
Blister Solutions: Aerosol Deoderant (Suave)
Wear Your Sunscreen: Part I and Part II

RECOMMENDED READING

BOOKS
Biggest Loser cookbook
Food Guide for Marathoners, Nancy Clark
Protein Power and Protein Power Lifeplan, Michael and Mary Dan Eades

PERIODICALS
Fitness
Marathon and Beyond
Running Times
Runner's World
Women's Health

URLs
THE ABCs of Weight Loss
Low-Carb Diner
Post-Exercise Meals
Ross Training
Skin Deep: Cosmetic Safety Database
The Vegetarian Society Gluten-Free Diet Information Sheet
Weight-Graded Calculator
Weight Training, Bodybuilding, Diet and Nutrition


Anything else? (Updated through post #1503)
 
Good Mornin' Lean Meaners!
Recipe alert...last night my son pulled out a recipe from RW---Walnut and Blueberry Bran Pancakes. We made them for dinner. They were incredible!!! Tasty, filling....the BEST panckes ever!!!:cool1: Can you tell I really liked them? Anyway, an hour later we both had PR times. My son got his mile time to a 4:50....I ran 2 miles at a less than 10 m/m pace(outside). So that made those pancakes even better. They will be a staple at our house. Runners do have their quirky habits don't they? I posted them on the recipe thread link in Lily's posts. Give them a try. and now back to our regular thread............:dance3:

Walnut and Blueberry Bran Pancakes
  • 1 1/2 cups whole milk
  • 1 cup instant oats
  • 3/4 cup sifted all-purpose flour (or a blend of white and whole-wheat flours)
  • 3/4 cup blueberries
  • 1/2 cup chopped walnuts
  • 1/4 cup oat flour or oat bran
  • 1 tablespoon baking powder
  • 2 tablespoons honey
  • 1 teaspoon salt
  • 2 eggs, beaten

Pour milk over oats and sift together flour, sugar, baking powder, and salt. Lightly stir eggs into oats mixture. Add dry ingredients and honey, stirring until combined. When the batter is thoroughly mixed, stir in the blueberries and walnuts. Ladle batches of the batter onto a preheated greased or nonstick griddle or frying pan and cook until tops are bubbly and edges look cooked. Turn over and finish cooking the other side. Makes about 10 pancakes. Serves four.

Calories: 400
Fat: 16 g
Carbs: 52 g
Protein: 15 g
 
Good evening Lean Meaners!

No training to report.

Tracey – WTG with the 4 milers. Oooo, Cars. One of my favorites.

Beth – Hope you get to feeling better soon.

Mike – I think I’d rather do the TM than the indoor track.

Maria – Fly the mission as fragged. In other words, no deviations from the shopping plan. ;) :) WTG with the TM workout.

Debra – Actually we have a General Order that covers amending SOPs. :lmao: Brewer’s Yeast has lots of B vitamins. WTG with the workout. You can add this link to your list, www.davedraper.com Lots of good info.

Stacie – SOPs are fun! Not!!! WTG with the weight loss. :thumbsup2

Connie – You can go shopping with me anytime.

:)
 
Well, it seems we have some confusion in the midst. Fast twitch, slow twitch, we all actually have all three types (ST, FTa and FTb) groups in our bodies. We just have a predominance of one type which makes us what we are.

Slow twitchers are marathoners, long haul bikers, etcetera. Your muscles fire at a slower rate, therefore producing longer endurance. For a slow twitch muscle bearer to run 5Ks it takes longer runs to produce faster short run times. I think that's probably where I confused people.

Fast twitch type A is a combination of fast and slow twitch muscle groups evenly which makes you the better "all around" athlete. Able to leap small building, you know....lol

Fast twitch B is the quick powerful sprinter who can cover some ground in a big hurry but runs out of fuel in the long haul (marathon) unless they can slow their pace and recruit some of their cute little slow twitchers.

So here is your test, if you have accessibility to a gym or you could try it with a band but it will be harder. While doing a squat, bench press or even a barbell biceps curl....just pick one exercise. Find the weight that you can do only one time, the heaviest that you can lift only once. Now take 80% of that weight (example, if you can squat 100 pounds only once, now take 80 pounds on the weight bar) and do as many repetitions as you can. Anyone who does this test, report back and I will give you the results of whether you are fast-a, fast-b or slow. I actually thought I was slow but I am fast-a (combination of the two). Lucky me. Now I need to train harder.

As for bulking up, you are training at too high an intensity (too much weight too low reps too fast in between) as you are tapping into the FT-b fibers too much. Slow recruits first, but if you start out too hard, too fast, you get the FT-b in there and they are the early fatiguers. Mid-range reps work best, 8-12, to not bulk and taking your time, concentrating movements and resting in between sets help too.

I am overwhelmed at all the nutrition gurus that are here. So many great suggestions. Debra, I especially like your info on GC since I am allergic to shellfish and have had a bugger of a time finding one that does not contain it.

Migraine solution: Peppermint essential oils. Peppermint is so good for everything. Me, Excedrin migraine and a steaming pot of peppermint oil and water.

Lead on Lean Meaners. You all rock my world!!!!! :love:
 
WOW....40 degrees is too cold to ride a bike...40 minutes was as long as I could stand it...still shivering...going to find an electric blanky now...
 
WOW Deb! Thanks for all the links!!!

Lisa...BTW...I have huge legs. Just take a look at the pics in my TR!!! I keep hoping as I lose weight they will slim down, but it seems they are mostly muscle and not fatty. Thanks all the info on the muscle fibers! I think I will try the test out and see what happens! So...just to make sure I understand. Take the weight I can only do once. then take 80% of that and so as much as I can and then let you know the weight and the number of reps. I think I got it.

Mike...Go get warm!!! :)

Everyone else...:wave:

Stacie
 
Stacie, you got it right. Just make sure you have someone there to spot you so you don't hurt yourself....please...

I, too, am a member of the beefy leg club. Mine are toned and I have been told they are skinny (to which I give them the raised eyebrow...did you LOOK at them????) and I truly love my legs. I have a horrific time finding jeans and knee length shorts to fit. It seems that if my legs are so skinny, this should not be an issue, but things are cut for girls with legs the size of my arms nowadays!!

I don't work my legs per se. I do squat on back day and I do it with a wide stance to work my inner thighs. I also do side extensions but more for my hip flexors than for my legs. I never, never, never work my calves. As I said before, I have Popeye calves. lol, not...;) It is important whether you run or walk (or both) that you keep your supporting muscles strong in order to, well, support you when you run. This includes your core (Amy....:flower3: ) which I find to be one of the MOST important parts of my workout. Shoulders would be my second most important area of choice. Tight shoulders and upper back leads to tension during the run.

See you all got me started and now you just can't shut me up. I am like a loose cannon all of the sudden. Slinking off now......:tiptoe:
 
Good morning Lean Meaners!

Hoping everyone is having a great Thursday morning.

3 miles scheduled for this evening.

I may have to try the pancake recipe this weekend. Looks yummy.

Debra – Here’s another good exercise site www.rosstraining.com

Lisa – I think I have more “No twich” muscles than any of the others.

Mike – 40 degrees? That should be against the law during the month of May.

:)
 
Lisa A wonderful voice is always wonderful!!! I confuse North, South, East and West, fast and slow, left and right. :lmao: I am definitely directionally impaired!! I am definitely FAST Twitch. I had a girlfriend once tell me I had too many muscles for a woman. I told her that wasn't true, I had the same number she did. She said that, no, what she meant was they were too big and unattractive. Of course, I happened to think that my muscles looked way better than her empty flappy skin, but didn't say so! Besides, I didn't happen to agree. I like them! I know I will never be first in an endurance event, and I also don't mind that. I am super proud of developing endurance and some speed. I think I am just the cat's pajamas, muscles and all! :rotfl2: -- I actually don't work my legs except for a few squats and lunges. I try to concentrate on my upper body. I don't really bulk up. I just get stronger!

Vic Thanks for the invite to go shopping! :thumbsup2 Hope you had a great rest day!!!

Debra What fun! You have indexed us!

Stacely I think you are cut out to be the athlete you want to be!! You did great at the Minnie and looked like you were having a ball! What more can you ask for!! Congratulations on the 25 lbs!

Mike Without those 50 lbs, you are missing your fat blanket! An electric blanky is so much better!

Tracely, Beth, Maria, Bill!! :wave2:
 
Good Morning Lean Meaners!

Ugh. No exercise yesterday, but I did eat better. Today I'm fitting in a bike ride, no matter what. I need the miles for Team Ohana! ;)

Stacie -- I wish I could say my legs are toned. You can sort of tell the muscles are there under the fat, and when I get going really well with workouts, you get a better glimpse of them. They are the absolute last area of my body to show any weight loss, so I sort of shrug my shoulders and have low expectations. :confused3

Lisa -- I wonder if under all the fat I have your type of legs, because my calves are very defined, and don't seem to have the fat of my thighs. They don't look like they belong on the same person...:laughing:

Mike -- You are a trooper! Good job getting out and staying on the bike for that long! :thumbsup2

Lisa -- The next time my head splits open, I'm trying the peppermint essential oil. That sounds soothing and wonderful! :goodvibes

Debra -- Now we're going to have to call you the "Link Queen"! What a fabulous list, thank you so much! The pancakes sound delicious, too! :yay:

Dave, Amy, Bill, Tracey, Beth, Connie -- :wave2:

Let's live a lean mean life today! :woohoo:
Maria
 














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