What is the CANADA pavilion at Epcot missing?

[CdnCarrie]

For subsets of coffee that include "road tar".
Somebody once offered to buy me a coffee. I thanked her, and waited while she went across the lot to the Tim's.
She was gone a long, long time. "Boy", I thought, "the lineup at Timmy's must be insane today."
Finally she returned....with a Starbucks from across town. "Oh, boy", I thought, "I'm finally going to get to try this stuff."
She said it was a double-double, or whatever the Starbuck's equivalent is. I tasted it and sputtered. "I think they messed this up", I said. "There seems to be neither cream nor sugar in this." She said she'd watched them put both in. I added some sugar and a whack of cream and it still tasted fantastically bitter. Down the drain it went.
No offense--if you like Starbucks, that's okay. But please don't try to tell me their coffee is ANYTHING like Tim Hortons'.

Actually I don't buy either really. I think it's a total waste of money to buy coffee. I make it at home and take it in my travel mug to work.

I may buy coffee couple times a year if that.

Nothing irks me more than when people ask me how we can go to WDW annually when they are standing next to me with their overpriced daily coffee. It's actually happened to me 3-4 times!

But I just meant that TH"s is not unique. It's a coffee shop like Starbucks, Second Cup, etc. I don't see it unique in any way at all.

I don't find their coffee any better than Starbucks or McDonald's. Not that I ever go to Starbucks either.

But my real point is that I don't think Tim Hortons symbolizes Canada at all. But they sure have done some great marketing to convince us all that they do!

Again I enjoy a cup from Timmy's just as much as anyone - the couple times of year that I get something there.

And I was just replying to twokids0204 post saying that we must all agree that TH is unique to Canada. Not debating if their coffee was any good. I guess Timmie's is to Canada what Starbucks is to the U.S. It's a nice coffee shop but doesn't mean much more than that to most of us.

I do think that the Canadians CM should wear Team Canada jerseys instead of the lumberjack costumes!

 

[twokids0204]

Looking for a Canadian perspective.

What would you do to improve the Canada Pavillion at Epcot? What would you add, or take away?

Culture, Scenery, Dining, Customs, Entertainment, etc...?

I agree folks - now to see why I asked this question, check out the DISdads forum for more details.

And if you are a Dad with the love of Disney, come over and join us.

And I was just replying to twokids0204 post saying that we must all agree that TH is unique to Canada. Not debating if their coffee was any good. I guess Timmie's is to Canada what Starbucks is to the U.S. It's a nice coffee shop but doesn't mean much more than that to most of us.

Carrie - as you see from the above posts, I started this thread based on a conversation we had on the DISDad's board.

I told them Tim's is "uniquely Canadian", and to prove it I would come here and ask you fine Canadian folks what we were missing (without prompting you). And within the first 3 response, Tim's was already mentioned, and then agreed with numerous times over. In fact in over 60 responses in this thread, Tim Horton's has been the main focus.

I think that alone proves that Canadian's view it, unique enough to be part of our identity and be represented in our view of Canada - at Epcot.

 

[HeatherLassell]

I do think that the Canadians CM should wear Team Canada jerseys instead of the lumberjack costumes!

That would be so awesome! I know I'd wear a hockey jersey before I'd EVER wear a lumberjack costume. (I don't wear plaid)

I saw funny Homer Simpson slippers at Walmart yesterday. He is wearing one of those furry long ear flap lumberjack hats with some plaid on it. lol What the heck?

 

[LSmith]

I hate Tim Hortons and love Starbucks. Tim Hortons coffee is just too weak for me. It almost tastes like tea.

I don't get the phrase Tim Hortons is "uniquely Canadian" when they have 587 American locations.

I wonder if people living in the suburbs think that it is unique because they have more access to Tim Hortons than to Starbucks. In Toronto there is a Starbucks on practically every corner and they are packed at all times.

 

[twokids0204]

I hate Tim Hortons and love Starbucks. Tim Hortons coffee is just too weak for me. It almost tastes like tea.

I don't get the phrase Tim Hortons is "uniquely Canadian" when they have 587 American locations.

I wonder if people living in the suburbs think that it is unique because they have more access to Tim Hortons than to Starbucks. In Toronto there is a Starbucks on practically every corner and they are packed at all times.

Tim's has branched out to the USA - but in small regions.

It is not nearly as readily available there as it is in Canada.

Tim Horton (The founder of Tim Horton's) was an NHL player in the 50's and 60's who played primarily with the Toronto Maple Leafs, he was born in Canada, and died in Canada. He was a canadian legend.

Canada has a Wal-Mart in every town, the franchise however is American, and is a symbol of american Capitalism.

When touring the UK pavillion at Epcot they have a twinning's teas garden, and they sell Mcintosh Caramels, they also sell more Guiness than anywhere else in the world. All of which you can get here in Canada, but it doens't make them any less "Uniquley British".

I think my intented result when starting this thread, and proven result with the topic of discussion in this thread speaks volumes of the point I am trying to make.

If I were to post this EXACT thread on theme park strategies, and change the title to "What is the AMERICA pavillion at Epcot missing", I assure you there would be no talk of Tim Horton's which has 587 US locations.

According to Wikipedia - a Canadian Cultural Icon

 

[twokids0204]

Reply #5 - STARBUCK'S

However, as mentioned they are on EVERY street corner in Toronto, and packed all the time - yet - uniquely american.

 

[LSmith]

Reply #5 - STARBUCK'S

However, as mentioned they are on EVERY street corner in Toronto, and packed all the time - yet - uniquely american.

I don't think Starbuck is unique to America.

 

[LSmith]

Tim's has branched out to the USA - but in small regions.

It is not nearly as readily available there as it is in Canada.

Tim Horton (The founder of Tim Horton's) was an NHL player in the 50's and 60's who played primarily with the Toronto Maple Leafs, he was born in Canada, and died in Canada. He was a canadian legend.

Canada has a Wal-Mart in every town, the franchise however is American, and is a symbol of american Capitalism.

When touring the UK pavillion at Epcot they have a twinning's teas garden, and they sell Mcintosh Caramels, they also sell more Guiness than anywhere else in the world. All of which you can get here in Canada, but it doens't make them any less "Uniquley British".

I think my intented result when starting this thread, and proven result with the topic of discussion in this thread speaks volumes of the point I am trying to make.

If I were to post this EXACT thread on theme park strategies, and change the title to "What is the AMERICA pavillion at Epcot missing", I assure you there would be no talk of Tim Horton's which has 587 US locations.

According to Wikipedia - a Canadian Cultural Icon

Yes, you made your point and I made mine. Free speech!

 

[twokids0204]

I don't think Starbuck is unique to America.

But American's do...

 

[twokids0204]

Yes, you made your point and I made mine. Free speech!

Not trying to get into a heated debate. Just friendly discussion.

 

[204charity]

They could make some serious money selling Timmies for sure, but what about the french-canadian aspect of our country? Taffy for festivale for example? Pea Soup, bannock - our metis culture is VERY prominant up here and it would be nice to see that celebrated. (Keep in mind I have not been to Disney in YEARS so I don't know exactly what they show/serve)

 

[ccudmore]

They should add a long line-up queue to clear customs to get into the Canadian pavilion. Everyone would be expected to wait patiently and in an orderly manner - and say please and thank you, eh.

 

[HeatherLassell]

They should add a long line-up queue to clear customs to get into the Canadian pavilion. Everyone would be expected to wait patiently and in an orderly manner - and say please and thank you, eh.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Carrie - as you see from the above posts, I started this thread based on a conversation we had on the DISDad's board.

I told them Tim's is "uniquely Canadian", and to prove it I would come here and ask you fine Canadian folks what we were missing (without prompting you). And within the first 3 response, Tim's was already mentioned, and then agreed with numerous times over. In fact in over 60 responses in this thread, Tim Horton's has been the main focus.

I think that alone proves that Canadian's view it, unique enough to be part of our identity and be represented in our view of Canada - at Epcot.

I realize many do. But not everyone wants to be represented by a coffee shop.


Hmm I think nanaimo bars would be a good addition to a CS option at Epcot.


Not sure if they are there or not but HBC blankets and jackets would be awesome in the shop. That is a real piece of Canadian heritage. Maybe with some Metis and aboriginal arts and crafts perhaps.


Oh and saskatoon pie. The Canadian pavilion too at Expo 87 in Vancouver had a dinner of roast beef with saskatoon pie for dessert.

 

[CdnCarrie]

According to Wikipedia - a Canadian Cultural Icon

Anyone can edit Wikipedia. It's not an offical source of any kind.

Chances are it was the marketing department at Timmie's that put the cultural icon line into the listing at Wikipedia as miuch of their ad campaign is to tell Canadians that they are one of our icons.
Remembering in Manitoba back in the 1990s Robin's donuts was the biggest chain and there was only a handful of Timmie's. Just more the last 10 years that Timmie's has exploded here.

What else is missing? How about something to do with our music scene beyond Off Kilter. Maybe a tribute to some of the great musicians that have come from here.

Or something about the CFL - selling some CFL merchandise in the store?

I'll have to make a point of going in the store next trip. Not even sure what is in there.

Hmmm anything to do with our multiculturism or Commonwealth heritage. I guess that is touched on in the movie.

 

[Kronk N Tink]

I told them Tim's is "uniquely Canadian", and to prove it I would come here and ask you fine Canadian folks what we were missing (without prompting you). And within the first 3 response, Tim's was already mentioned, and then agreed with numerous times over. In fact in over 60 responses in this thread, Tim Horton's has been the main focus.

I think that alone proves that Canadian's view it, unique enough to be part of our identity and be represented in our view of Canada - at Epcot.

Or that enough of us are sick of bad coffee at WDW

Hey they could sell more park tickets or park hoppers by putting a Timmies in EPCOT... most of the Canadians would go there first thing every morning before doing whatever else they planned for the day

 

[Ted in Halifax]

Or that enough of us are sick of bad coffee at WDW

I absolutely hate WDW coffee and I usually can drink anything!

 

[thehowells]

please put a tims in so the non coffee drinker that is me can get on test track faster

 

[HeatherLassell]

please put a tims in so the non coffee drinker that is me can get on test track faster

lol

PS Did you see Test Track is going down in 2012 for a "multi-month refurb"?

 

[World Showcaser]

I'm kind of sad that the point of this thread was to prove a point on another board. I feel so used. Seriously, though, why not talk about more than just Tim Hortons.

I agree that the coffee shop is well-known to all Canadians but does that mean that we want to use it to identify who we are? If so, I think it reflects badly on us.

- A place that chooses over and over again to use coffee that has NOT been fairly traded.
- One of the biggest polluters in Canada. (What do you suppose creates the most litter? Tim Hortons coffee cups!)
- A company that refuses to use recycable material.
- A company owned and operated by Americans.
- A company named after a guy who liked to drink and drive.

Why would want this to be our icon?