The Walking Dead on AMC

[nathalee81]

I'm going to preface this by saying that I haven't yet read any of the other posts with comments about last night's show. This post from anniemae was the first one I saw and I wanted to reply while I had time.

I totally, 100% agree about the spoilers ruining the intensity. The funny thing is, I am usually the sort of person who seeks out spoilers for shows up to a point. I like reading spoilers for maybe a certain number of episodes in a series if the series is something that could go a few different directions. Then I stop reading spoilers or looking for them when it's getting close to the end of a season because most shows do the big things at the end of the season. (Of course, TWD kills important people all season long so it's a bit of a rarity!)

In the case of TWD, I had not read any spoilers for the entire season - last year or this year. We had already lost some fairly important cast members this season, so I didn't think that reading spoilers for one show would make a big difference to me. This past week was the one and only time I looked for spoilers on TWD, and it was so easy to find them! I was shocked at how easily the photos and synopsis for last night's episode could be found! So, when I watched last night's show I kept thinking that maybe those easy-to-find spoilers were just put out there to throw us all off.

And, of course, it turned out the spoilers were totally accurate!

To be honest, even if I hadn't read the spoilers about last night's episode, I wouldn't have been shocked at the outcome at all - but I would have felt more involved in the sequence of events without that knowledge. Likewise, I will not be shocked if and when the Governor 'gets his' at some point. All the bad guys - even the ones who are sort of good guys who eventually turned bad - end up getting their comeuppance. So the Governor will die at some point - I just don't know if it will be on Sunday, and I don't know who will be the one to take him down.

I still have to go back to the telltale avoidance of the hypothetical question that Chris Hardwick asked Lauren Cohan/Maggie on Talking Dead, about whether Maggie would save Hershel or Glenn if they were both about to die. She clearly dodged answering it and looked very uncomfortable, even though it was a hypothetical question.

Last night, to me it seemed like we were really supposed to care even more about Maggie and Glenn as a couple than we already do, and care about Hershel giving his stamp of approval on their relationship. Those scenes were meant to get us more attached to those characters and get us invested in what happens to them. So, I think that we are going to see a scene coming up in which Glenn and Hershel are both in peril, and one of them is going to go. Whichever one of them it is who goes first, it will be heartbreaking. And I am not reading any spoilers for Sunday's episode! None!

I hate to say this because I love Hershel, but I think he is on the way out.

I think you are right, that little scene with Glenn and Hershel meant something.

However, I think Hershel might sacrifice himself in some way? Maybe push Glenn out of the way or save Maggie in some way? Kind of what T-dog did with Carol at the beginning of the season?

Ugh-I absolutely hate to think of one of these characters dying. Can they take Andrea? I really wouldn't mind losing her-she drove me batty this season with her waffling on killing the Governor.

 

[Sherry E]

I haven't read the actual comics themselves, but I read an outline of most of what happens in the comics. I think someone posted a link to a page for the outline in some other thread and I clicked on it (maybe it was in that thread on the other board I mentioned a few days ago, where most of the people seem bored with TWD? I can't recall where I saw the link). I guess I didn't look at that as reading true spoilers because I had heard from a few different people that the TV show was vastly different from the comics, and once I read the outline I could see that a lot of things are very different. In fact, I don't remember seeing anything in the comics' synopsis that has happened in the TV series in the exact same way.

I think that what is happening with TWD comics vs. the TV show is much like what happens when autobiographies or biographies get turned into movies. The writers make composites or compilations of events, mixing up when the events actually happened, how they happened and to whom they happened.

In a bio or autobio, let's say, for example, a guy named Tom (the subject of the book) gets into a car accident that kills his female passenger and Tom has a near death experience. In the movie version of Tom's life story, suddenly it's his mother who gets hit by a car and someone else totally different has the near death experience a year later, on an operating table.

So, in TWD comics one person may end up tortured by the Governor, and in the TV show it's someone else who is tortured. In the comics, one person gets a hand cut off. In the TV show it's Merle who gets the hand cut off, and it happens much earlier in the story than it happened to the other person in the comics. In the comics, two characters may be romantically involved. In the series, those two characters are not even close to romantically involved.

The writers basically take little details or bits and pieces of things that happen in the comics and work them somewhere into the plot of the TV series, but the same characters may not be involved, and the events may not happen in the same locations or at the same points in the story.

 

[phorsenuf]

I always get nervous reading this thread because I hate spoilers. I'm not sure if this has been designated spoiler free or not. But I love to read what everyone has to say about the show.

 

[elgerber]

I always get nervous reading this thread because I hate spoilers. I'm not sure if this has been designated spoiler free or not. But I love to read what everyone has to say about the show.

I believe we have said in the past that this is spoiler free??

I also could see Hershel sacrificing himself to save Glenn, so that he and Maggie can stay together.

 

[Sherry E]

I hate to say this because I love Hershel, but I think he is on the way out.

I think you are right, that little scene with Glenn and Hershel meant something.

However, I think Hershel might sacrifice himself in some way? Maybe push Glenn out of the way or save Maggie in some way? Kind of what T-dog did with Carol at the beginning of the season?

Ugh-I absolutely hate to think of one of these characters dying. Can they take Andrea? I really wouldn't mind losing her-she drove me batty this season with her waffling on killing the Governor.

I think you're right - I think Hershel would be more likely to go first, and your idea of the sacrifice sounds like something that he would totally do! He would want Maggie to be happy with Glenn and would put himself in the line of fire somehow to save her/them.

Yes, I definitely felt like those scenes last night between Glenn and Hershel and Glenn and Maggie were there for a reason, and to get us more invested in them as people so we will weep uncontrollably when one of them goes!

I cried when poor Dale met his fate last year. I didn't like Hershel at first (in the early farm days), but now I do and I'm sure I will be sobbing over him too...until I come to my senses and realize I'm sobbing over a zombie TV show! The zombie apocalypse just isn't a place for the elderly!

Andrea had at least a couple of occasions where she could have killed the Governor and did not do it, as we know. If the Governor proceeds to then kill people she cares about at the prison - even just one person she cares about - she will probably be overwhelmed with guilt if she survives the torture chair and escapes. She may even try to commit suicide, like she wanted to do back at the CDC. She may just give up.

 

[phorsenuf]

I believe we have said in the past that this is spoiler free??

I also could see Hershel sacrificing himself to save Glenn, so that he and Maggie can stay together.

Usually it is a part of the post title so I wasn't quite sure.

 

[elgerber]

I think they actually did a LOT of set up last night, making us really attached to people. Merle coming around, Daryl crying, Rick finally turning back into the old Rick, Carol saying she isn't afraid anymore, Hershel, Glenn, Maggie. Pretty much everyone but the kids.

 

[nathalee81]

I think you're right - I think Hershel would be more likely to go first, and your idea of the sacrifice sounds like something that he would totally do! He would want Maggie to be happy with Glenn and would put himself in the line of fire somehow to save her/them.

Yes, I definitely felt like those scenes last night between Glenn and Hershel and Glenn and Maggie were there for a reason, and to get us more invested in them as people so we will weep uncontrollably when one of them goes!

I cried when poor Dale met his fate last year. I didn't like Hershel at first (in the early farm days), but now I do and I'm sure I will be sobbing over him too...until I come to my senses and realize I'm sobbing over a zombie TV show! The zombie apocalypse just isn't a place for the elderly!

Andrea had at least a couple of occasions where she could have killed the Governor and did not do it, as we know. If the Governor proceeds to then kill people she cares about at the prison - even just one person she cares about - she will probably be overwhelmed with guilt if she survives the torture chair and escapes. She may even try to commit suicide, like she wanted to do back at the CDC. She may just give up.

Oh, I cried when Dale died and I cried like a baby when Lori and T-Dog died. And, I really didn't even like the Lori character! But, when she said that "Goodnight, love" line, I lost it. And, then when Rick realized what had happened and he lost it, I lost it AGAIN!

I, too, then have to stop and say to myself "this is only a show-they didn't really get eaten by zombies or die a zombie or get killed by their son so they wouldn't turn into a zombie!". It helps to watch whoever got killed on The Talking Dead after the episode

 

[elgerber]

Oh, I cried when Dale died and I cried like a baby when Lori and T-Dog died. And, I really didn't even like the Lori character! But, when she said that "Goodnight, love" line, I lost it. And, then when Rick realized what had happened and he lost it, I lost it AGAIN!

I, too, then have to stop and say to myself "this is only a show-they didn't really get eaten by zombies or die a zombie or get killed by their son so they wouldn't turn into a zombie!". It helps to watch whoever got killed on The Talking Dead after the episode

Oh my, I could barely breathe after Lori died. I was crying so hard I was practically heaving. Just the thought of what that little boy did, and that baby growing up with no mother, and all the thoughts going through her head. That was awful!!!!!!!!
I cried just about as hard when Sophia came out of the barn also.
Fiction or not, cry at the drop of a hat.

 

[nuke]

Hershel also said to the girls when they were reading the bible passages that he would do anything to keep them safe. That may be a bit of foreshadowing.

I can not wait until Sunday!!

 

[WDWBarb]

I found it interesting that the host if the Talking Dead referred to the Govenor twice in the past tense. He even corrected himself the second time. I hope the Gov is a goner.

I felt like Chris Hardwick possibly let more than one spoiler fly in last night's episode of TTD. Since so many of them know the whole season, I think they have a REALLY hard time remembering what not to say or even what has or has not happened yet.

 

[Sherry E]

Has anyone ever seen a little gem called Zombie Apocalypse? I had never heard of this horrible movie until about 30 minutes ago, when I was flipping through the channels and saw it on Syfy. It is obvious that whoever threw this garbage together in 2011 was totally capitalizing on the popularity of The Walking Dead, but it is nowhere near as effective even though it is pretty gory.

Anyway, the movie is about survivors who escape to Catalina Island...which just happens to be my other favorite spot in Southern California (after Disneyland)!! My first thought was, Where on earth would zombies be hanging out on Catalina? (because you just know the survivors will find them there). I was thinking of the seaside town of Avalon. It didn't seem very zombie-friendly. And then I remembered that Catalina has all kinds of hills and empty roads and paths. There are bison and goats in the hills too. Plus, there is the Wrigley Memorial & Botanical Garden, which is a creepy place (see the blue link to my Catalina TR in my signature below, which has pictures of the whole Wrigley area)...so I realized that Catalina is probably a perfect place for zombies to roam free!

Who knew? All this time I've been going to Catalina and wandering around up in the hills, and never thought twice about zombies! Is there no sacred place anymore? What next? Are they going to make a movie about zombies running loose in a Disney park?

 

[WDWBarb]

What next? Are they going to make a movie about zombies running loose in a Disney park?

Don't tease me!! I would TOTALLY watch this movie. Like 20 times.

 

[JenM]

What next? Are they going to make a movie about zombies running loose in a Disney park?

The movie Zombieland had fun with zombies running loose in an amusement park. That movie is hilarous, btw. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=071KqJu7WVo

Watching the marathon on AMC right now. Between seeing Morgan and Duane in the pilot, and now Merle's first episode, it's sad watching these again!

 

[Sherry E]

Don't tease me!! I would TOTALLY watch this movie. Like 20 times.

You just know that some evil genius out there has wanted to make that movie! Of course, Disney would never give permission to use the Disney name in a zombie film, so the filmmakers would have to pretend it's some generic park - which would take away most of the fun!

(Meanwhile, as the dramatically ridiculous Zombie Apocalypse moves along, the survivors have encountered some running zombies, some zombies that know how to dodge swords and other weapons and other zombies that are hard to kill except by chainsaw -- and the survivors are still waiting to catch the ferry to Catalina Island, where they think they will be safe! Muahahahahahahaha! Oh, and there was a bright light shooting across the sky, which elicited one character to say, with a tinge of sadness, "Sometimes the end of the world can be beautiful.")

 

[JessicaR]

I felt like Chris Hardwick possibly let more than one spoiler fly in last night's episode of TTD. Since so many of them know the whole season, I think they have a REALLY hard time remembering what not to say or even what has or has not happened yet.

I was thinking the same as I watched it.l

 

[Sherry E]

The movie Zombieland had fun with zombies running loose in an amusement park. That movie is hilarous, btw. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=071KqJu7WVo

Watching the marathon on AMC right now. Between seeing Morgan and Duane in the pilot, and now Merle's first episode, it's sad watching these again!

Oh that's right! You just reminded me! I totally forgot about Zombieland (that's with Woody Harrelson, isn't it?), and I forgot about the marathon tonight. I've got to watch at least some of the episodes this week! Thank you for reminding me. I probably would have gotten caught up in Dancing with the Stars instead!

 

[elgerber]

Zombieland is one of my favorite movies ever!!! Double tap

 

[Jaya]

What next? Are they going to make a movie about zombies running loose in a Disney park?

Several years ago I read a short story about radiation hitting Orlando......the "kids" in It's A Small World came alive and started eating the tourists. I still snicker whenever I remember that story. Wish I could remember who wrote it......sounds like something Dave Barry would come up with...

 

[TruBlu]

Anybody watching the marathon this week?

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