Sometimes this really ticks me off!

[ozarkmom]

Well for everyone that mentions I don't know the circumstances of these people well most of the time I do. We're a small community and I also get to play dear Abby to alot of these guys. I have a heart and my heart has broke for some of these employees and their families during difficult times. Yesterday was a bad day because 2 of these wives were bragging about how they were going to go blow their husbands checks! Maybe it's not any of my business but on the other hand my taxes go for these entitlements so maybe it is my business. There are days that I would like to "get another job" yesterday was one of those days. Yes we have had hard times before in my family and times were difficult when we had our third child so guess what my husband had a vasectomy. Times are tight right now so guess what I've picked up a SECOND JOB. I'm referring to people that I know for a fact think it's great if they can get anything handed to them giggling, and going on about what they're going to do with their hubby's check . Yeah yesterday I was feeling a little pissy. I know about hard times and I know about thinking your entitled there is a difference!

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

I tend to agree with OzarkMom. We have 3 kids and believe me, my husband and I would have loved to have more. It was money and extras in life or struggling like crazy for the rest of our lives.

I had my tubes tied and my husband got the unkind cut

For us it was a common sense decision.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

Well for everyone that mentions I don't know the circumstances of these people well most of the time I do. We're a small community and I also get to play dear Abby to alot of these guys. I have a heart and my heart has broke for some of these employees and their families during difficult times. Yesterday was a bad day because 2 of these wives were bragging about how they were going to go blow their husbands checks! Maybe it's not any of my business but on the other hand my taxes go for these entitlements so maybe it is my business. There are days that I would like to "get another job" yesterday was one of those days. Yes we have had hard times before in my family and times were difficult when we had our third child so guess what my husband had a vasectomy. Times are tight right now so guess what I've picked up a SECOND JOB. I'm referring to people that I know for a fact think it's great if they can get anything handed to them giggling, and going on about what they're going to do with their hubby's check . Yeah yesterday I was feeling a little pissy. I know about hard times and I know about thinking your entitled there is a difference!

Well, in that case....
I can understand where you are coming from. There are definitely bad seeds and just downright bad people taking advantage of a good situation. But, I do feel for all those people that do need the help and have people look down on them for circumstances out of their control. It's a touchy situation for me as I was one of them. I had to quit college when my mom was sick to go home and take care of her. I do regret having to quit college, but I will never regret that last year I got to spend with my mom. I was engaged to my future DH, and ended up finding out I was pregnant a week to the day before my mother passed away. Well, after mom passed I moved back in with my boyfriend, my health insurance I'd had was cancelled after I quit school and I had no funds to purchase new insurance and most of the insurance providers wouldn't cover the pregnancy as it was a pre-existing condition. So, I did have the government insurance for my first child, thank goodnes!

But, I can totally understand your anger towards these girls who are taking advantage of the situation. That's why I personally, would rather our taxes be going to help those that are willing to help themselves, have jobs but still can't make ends met, than those who prefer to just pick up their welfare checks and blow it.

 

[mousetravel]

Instead of looking down on people that get assistance, just be glad you are not in their situation. Everyone that recieves assistance isn't doing it with intentions of abusing the system. Yes, some do, but don't be too quick to judge unless you've been there.

I work 2 jobs and still can't afford insurance for myself. My child has medicaid and without it, she would not be able to get her asthma medication. What would you suggest I do, stop accepting medicaid and risk her life?


As far as the EBT abuse, I know someone that "sells" hers every month. I called & reported it once, and they WILL NOT do anything about it!

So a lot of blame goes to the programs offering assistance. The EBT program should do follow ups regularly, the SSI & disability programs should do follow ups. I know of a couple of people claiming to be "disabled", get their check, but yet they work "under the table".

 

[PrincessKsMom]

You don't like it, you get another job. Otherwise, that's your job, so just do it. Keep your opinion to yourself. You don't know their situation. You just ASSume. And NO, I don't say this because of living like this (couldn't afford 2 vacations per year living like that) but I certainly do know people who live like that. And again, you don't know their situation. And bottomline, it's none of your business. Try to have a nice day at work.

Uh, sorry. My tax money is paying for the life they've grown accustomed to abusing. It is my business. Here's my proposal -- 2 years of welfare, food stamps, WIC, etc. and then that's it. You're cut off. Nothing, nada, zilch, zero. You decide to have more kids, you pay for them, 'cause we're only footing the bill for the ones you had when you filed a claim. After two years, you're done. You don't like it -- get a frickin' job and pay for your own lifestyle.

 

[tzolkin]

I didn't read all of the replies, but I'm just going to comment on the "get a job" comment toward these women. Sorry if this was already addressed.

We do not get any assistance and are very capable of living within our means (DH makes about $50K), but for the last 4 years I have been a SAHM. I have a bachelors degree from a top school, but where I live I can only get a job making $8.50 an hour before taxes. For two pre-school aged children childcare averages out to $10 an hour. So, for me to have a job we would actually be losing over $6000 a year. I'm really not being "lazy", it's financially practical for me to stay at home.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

I didn't read all of the replies, but I'm just going to comment on the "get a job" comment toward these women. Sorry if this was already addressed.

We do not get any assistance and are very capable of living within our means (DH makes about $50K), but for the last 4 years I have been a SAHM. I have a bachelors degree from a top school, but where I live I can only get a job making $8.50 an hour before taxes. For two pre-school aged children childcare averages out to $10 an hour. So, for me to have a job we would actually be losing over $6000 a year. I'm really not being "lazy", it's financially practical for me to stay at home.

I'm in the same situation. I work a part time job after husband gets home so that we won't don't have to do daycare. Otherwise, I would be paying to work.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

I didn't read all of the replies, but I'm just going to comment on the "get a job" comment toward these women. Sorry if this was already addressed.

We do not get any assistance and are very capable of living within our means (DH makes about $50K), but for the last 4 years I have been a SAHM. I have a bachelors degree from a top school, but where I live I can only get a job making $8.50 an hour before taxes. For two pre-school aged children childcare averages out to $10 an hour. So, for me to have a job we would actually be losing over $6000 a year. I'm really not being "lazy", it's financially practical for me to stay at home.

You're not using government assistance to supplement your SAH status though.

FWIW, I only have a high school diploma, but I'm making a good salary. I have worked every day since graduating high school. I would have loved to have been a SAHM, but it wasn't in the cards. I think this is something women and their husbands need to think about when they decide to have someone be a SAH. It takes you out of the market for a while and it will be hard to get back in at a later date, whether your children are older, one spouse becomes disabled, etc. You might not just be able to jump back in, when you need/want to.

 

[disneyfav4ever]

I don't mind people getting help, but I do mind people abusing the help they do get.

 

[mousetravel]

I didn't read all of the replies, but I'm just going to comment on the "get a job" comment toward these women. Sorry if this was already addressed.

We do not get any assistance and are very capable of living within our means (DH makes about $50K), but for the last 4 years I have been a SAHM. I have a bachelors degree from a top school, but where I live I can only get a job making $8.50 an hour before taxes. For two pre-school aged children childcare averages out to $10 an hour. So, for me to have a job we would actually be losing over $6000 a year. I'm really not being "lazy", it's financially practical for me to stay at home.

I agree, you can't just say "get a job" and solve the problem. Many people that get assistance DO have jobs, mostly underpaid , but it is a job.

 

[bambootinker]

Instead of looking down on people that get assistance, just be glad you are not in their situation. Everyone that recieves assistance isn't doing it with intentions of abusing the system. Yes, some do, but don't be too quick to judge unless you've been there.

I work 2 jobs and still can't afford insurance for myself. My child has medicaid and without it, she would not be able to get her asthma medication. What would you suggest I do, stop accepting medicaid and risk her life?


As far as the EBT abuse, I know someone that "sells" hers every month. I called & reported it once, and they WILL NOT do anything about it!

So a lot of blame goes to the programs offering assistance. The EBT program should do follow ups regularly, the SSI & disability programs should do follow ups. I know of a couple of people claiming to be "disabled", get their check, but yet they work "under the table".

You are kidding right? You are going to Disney in 6 months, but don't have money for insurance?

 

[PrincessKsMom]

You are kidding right? You are going to Disney in 6 months, but don't have money for insurance?

Um, actually her ticker says "since", meaning she's already gone to Disney. Just saying.

 

[KAMLEM]

We do not get any assistance and are very capable of living within our means (DH makes about $50K), but for the last 4 years I have been a SAHM. I have a bachelors degree from a top school, but where I live I can only get a job making $8.50 an hour before taxes. For two pre-school aged children childcare averages out to $10 an hour. So, for me to have a job we would actually be losing over $6000 a year. I'm really not being "lazy", it's financially practical for me to stay at home.

There are jobs available at night and on weekends, nobody is saying you have to work during the day when your DH is working. I don't mean "you" personally, I mean in general.

I know someone who stays at home for this same reason, and when I asked her about working at night or on the weekend, she said that was her time to "relax" because her boyfriend was home to help with the kids. Sorry, but if you can't make ends meet and you are expecting other people to support you, you don't have a right to "relax" at night and on the weekends.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

I agree, you can't just say "get a job" and solve the problem. Many people that get assistance DO have jobs, mostly underpaid , but it is a job.

Exactly! Especially with the job market the way it is. Just getting a job is difficult, but to find one where you actually make enough to live on is almost impossible for some people. These high paying jobs are few and far between.

 

[bambootinker]

Um, actually her ticker says "since", meaning she's already gone to Disney. Just saying.

I see you are right. So, she was paying for the insurance to that? Or only just went on medicaid because of it.

Looking back at previous posts, her daughter prefers cruises anyway.

Also, sometimes one must make life changes to make things work. These might involve moving to an area to get a job to use that degree from the prestigious university, cutting costs, living simpler etc.

 

[mousetravel]

Yeah, I went to Disney 6 months ago, that was at tax time. And it wasn't an extravagent vacation either. Staying offsite, taking all our food & snacks, driving my car (instead of flying),etc.

 

[tzolkin]

There are jobs available at night and on weekends, nobody is saying you have to work during the day when your DH is working. I don't mean "you" personally, I mean in general.

I know someone who stays at home for this same reason, and when I asked her about working at night or on the weekend, she said that was her time to "relax" because her boyfriend was home to help with the kids. Sorry, but if you can't make ends meet and you are expecting other people to support you, you don't have a right to "relax" at night and on the weekends.

I know what you are saying. A job actually making use of me degree would be during the day, but if we were struggling I would have to resort to any minimum wage job at night. (Fortunately we're not, because even a job at night would not be possible right now. My DH is going to college full time while working full time and being on call for work. He is usually gone 5am-9pm and then does homework, so I am the only childcare provider 24/7. Things were much easier when we had family support- my mom used to watch our oldest DD while I went to school/work.)

 

[tzolkin]

oops... double post

 

[4cruisin]

Yeah, I went to Disney 6 months ago, that was at tax time. And it wasn't an extravagent vacation either. Staying offsite, taking all our food & snacks, driving my car (instead of flying),etc.

See, this is where personal responsiblilty comes into play. Dh and I usually take a big vacation every winter and then 3 or 4 long weekend getaways each year. We have decided that due to the economy and the cost of heating our house, the fact that dh works in the construction area, we are giving up the big trip this year. I am very sad about making that decision but based on the way things are going, I don't want to take that money and then wish we had it if something goes haywire. The $$ we use for those trips is definetly discretionary but it is still $$ we could use elsewhere if needed.

This is called personal responsibilty and good judgement.

Btw, we pay for our health insurance through dh's work. It costs a fortune but why should I expect the state to pay for it when it is my responsibility?

I would love to have that "extra" $$ each week in our pocket but it's not the right way to do things.

 

[bambootinker]

See, this is where personal responsiblilty comes into play. Dh and I usually take a big vacation every winter and then 3 or 4 long weekend getaways each year. We have decided that due to the economy and the cost of heating our house, the fact that dh works in the construction area, we are giving up the big trip this year. I am very sad about making that decision but based on the way things are going, I don't want to take that money and then wish we had it if something goes haywire. The $$ we use for those trips is definetly discretionary but it is still $$ we could use elsewhere if needed.

This is called personal responsibilty and good judgement.

Btw, we pay for our health insurance through dh's work. It costs a fortune but why should I expect the state to pay for it when it is my responsibility?

I would love to have that "extra" $$ each week in our pocket but it's not the right way to do things.

We are changing our vacation habits to increase savings. The world just feels a bit too unsettled for me.

We are staying off-site, and just using the 4 day passes we have from years ago. And, heaven forbid, driving!

Sorry, but ANY trip to Disney is extravagant!