Disney’s Lakeshore Lodge Coming to former Reflections Site in 2027!

[Mikey15]

Time will tell. Studio wise I think will be very close to Poly Tower. I would very much like for you to be right and me be wrong though.

I just don’t see this having a monorail resort level point chart, especially given the size of the place and potential A-frame point sinks.

Riv chart for resort view (Tri Circle D ranch?) and preferred (pool view), plus a higher category for premium/fireworks view?

 

[airjay75]

I'm just thinking about a basic studio during Sept, and I just can't see the points being more than RIV right now. Yes, it's a MK resort, but it lacks the draw of the multi-option transportation to 2 parks like RIV does, PLUS it is much bigger. 2-5 pts extra a night more than CCV would be around (or more than) the GFV levels, and I can't see them doing more than GFV unless there's more amenities offered. They need an alternative lodge for the CCV vacationers who find it hard to book at 11 months...if you price too high, you might as well go to a monorail resort.

I guess if you look at studios 2-4 points more per night over CCV is probably a fair estimate, at least for a resort view studio. And that's one thing CCV doesn't have - different view categories. I'm sure LSL will. Anything facing the water will be preferred view - maybe they get aggressive and try to label some of the views with "good" fireworks views as theme park views. I think the RIV points chart is the floor and the PIT/VGF points chart is the ceiling for LSL - and, of course the A-frame cabins will be very heavy on points.

Sure, I think RIV is a better location with Skyliner access to two parks, but RIV will be sold out when LSL goes on sale. There will be plenty of things they'll be able to sell about LSL, I'm sure.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I just don’t see this having a monorail resort level point chart, especially given the size of the place and potential A-frame point sinks.

Riv chart for resort view (Tri Circle D ranch?) and preferred (pool view), plus a higher category for premium/fireworks view?

Can’t wait to revisit and see who all was closest in their guesstimates. Excited for it to be done.

 

[Mikey15]

maybe they get aggressive and try to label some of the views with "good" fireworks views as theme park views. I think the RIV points chart is the floor and the PIT/VGF points chart is the ceiling for LSL - and, of course the A-frame cabins will be very heavy on points.

Sure, I think RIV is a better location with Skyliner access to two parks, but RIV will be sold out when LSL goes on sale. There will be plenty of things they'll be able to sell about LSL, I'm sure.

One thing I will add is I expect them to be careful about the term chosen for LSL rooms with fireworks viewing potential:

Duo Studios at PIT have a “Premium” view category with “Views of Seven Seas Lagoon,” rather than the “Theme Park View” available in other room sizes.

Riviera “Resort View” rooms with “View of Parking Area” are mostly in sight of Epcot fireworks, yet there’s no “Fireworks View” category.

Disney does have “Fireworks View” as a cash category for hotel side resorts like Wilderness Lodge, but they’ve avoided using it on any DVC rooms at any resort. In theory, fireworks don’t necessarily happen every night at every park, where ones that offer a “theme park view” theoretically offer that same view at all times, whether a theme park is open or closed.

But I don’t see them able to claim “theme park view” for LSL either. There is no line of sight for castle or even Space Mountain. Contemporary and BLT are in the way.

I’d bet a Mickey bar on “Premium View” getting utilized here just like PIT.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

I had done this for another thread - and it's of course impossible to precisely judge the impact of height, trees, angles, etc until we see the finished product - but I think there's a pretty good potential at least some of the northwest facing rooms will end up with decent fireworks views, even with CR/BLT in the mix. Devil will be in the details though, but my money would be on at least some kind of way for them to push different view categories/designations.

 

[juliebee]

So what are your predictions for the point chart for LsL? Including the influences of it being new, restricted, but also quite expansive; I'd wager a point chart about 2-4 pts/night higher than the Copper Creek chart.

If the Cabins at FW are part of LSL trust, then that will help guide the point chart for LSL, in my opinion. Currently the CFW charts are very close to the points for a Resort View Deluxe Studio at Grand Floridian. I think the CFW would be higher points than a resort view studio at LSL. That would put it at or slightly below Riviera points. I'm torn on the points equaling Riviera given that LSL will have the lazy river feature or being slightly less points than Riviera due to LSL's less advantageous transportation options and LSL's higher dues (if with Cabins and there isn't a radical change).

 

[Sandisw]

If the Cabins at FW are part of LSL trust, then that will help guide the point chart for LSL, in my opinion. Currently the CFW charts are very close to the points for a Resort View Deluxe Studio at Grand Floridian. I think the CFW would be higher points than a resort view studio at LSL. That would put it at or slightly below Riviera points. I'm torn on the points equaling Riviera given that LSL will have the lazy river feature or being slightly less points than Riviera due to LSL's less advantageous transportation options and LSL's higher dues (if with Cabins and there isn't a radical change).

They can make them part of the same RTU plan and not tie the charts that close together.

That’s one of the benefits of a trust model…they can also combine it into the trust and give it is own RTU plan.

Point charts can also be adjusted across both if they go in the same RTU plan.

I think it’s too early to tell how it might go…the only thing I feel is more likely than not is that LSL will be sold under a trust model, even if not combined with CFW in anyway.