Sometimes this really ticks me off!

[ozarkmom]

Flame away!!!! I'm getting tired of having to fill out proof of income forms for employees to get food stamps, help w housing and free insurance for their kids. Yeah I'm in a pissy mood. These guys wives don't work come in here with a kid on their hip another one in the car and usually one on the way. I don't wish ill on these children I just get fed up with working full time and my DH works full time and he has a side business and I'm working a part-time job. I want to scream at these young women GET A JOB!!! STOP HAVING BABIES!!! I'd rather you get free/or reduced birth control than all this other crap your getting. My kids have insurance and it is costing my husband an arm and a leg. My employer covers me so he doesn't have that expense. I'm sorry but we're busting our butts off to make ends meet and too many people aren't doing their share. There I said it.

 

[castleview]

I hear you. When I worked for a roofing company, we often had to deal with this...in addition to finding out our newest employee has a baby and we have to garnish his check. I dropped a lot empathy for people on welfare then - I'm ok with it as a safety net, but too many people lived off it.

 

[binny]

maybe they dont get paid enough

there I said it.



Look I dont mean to be nasty but seriously, if they are coming in and getting paperwork done because ONE of them has a job they are at least making an effort to work and not live off the State.

I would much rather my tax money go to people making an effort who need a little help than someone who sits on their butt all day long and expects a hand out.


If you havent been in the position where you needed a little help then good for you. I have been in that position and I thank God the help was there when I needed it!

 

[ozarkmom]

maybe they dont get paid enough

there I said it.



Look I dont mean to be nasty but seriously, if they are coming in and getting paperwork done because ONE of them has a job they are at least making an effort to work and not live off the State.

I would much rather my tax money go to people making an effort who need a little help than someone who sits on their butt all day long and expects a hand out.


If you havent been in the position where you needed a little help then good for you. I have been in that position and I thank God the help was there when I needed it!

I'm in the position where I recently took a part-time job. I have watched these people not make an effort. These women have no intention of working and they see no problem with having more children. I'm all for helping people when they need it but people also need to help themselves. They ask me if I can leave off the overtime and be sure to not put the perdiem with their wages. The majority of the people I'm talking about have learned how to "work" the system and I'm fed up. Again I'm not wishing ill on their children but somewhere down the line their parents should be doing more and if it means the mom getting at least a part time job and not having any more kids then so be it. I'm talking about what I've seen for years. One of these women just picked up her husbands check and was bragging about how she was going to go shopping.

 

[C.Ann]

maybe they dont get paid enough

there I said it.



Look I dont mean to be nasty but seriously, if they are coming in and getting paperwork done because ONE of them has a job they are at least making an effort to work and not live off the State.

I would much rather my tax money go to people making an effort who need a little help than someone who sits on their butt all day long and expects a hand out.


If you havent been in the position where you needed a little help then good for you. I have been in that position and I thank God the help was there when I needed it!

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I like your attitude.. I know I'll get flamed for it, but I agree with everything you posted..

I guess I just can't imagine knowing enough about a persons entire personal situation to make such harsh judgements simply by filling out some forms for them..

 

[tileman]

Flame away!!!! I'm getting tired of having to fill out proof of income forms for employees to get food stamps, help w housing and free insurance for their kids. Yeah I'm in a pissy mood. These guys wives don't work come in here with a kid on their hip another one in the car and usually one on the way. I don't wish ill on these children I just get fed up with working full time and my DH works full time and he has a side business and I'm working a part-time job. I want to scream at these young women GET A JOB!!! STOP HAVING BABIES!!! I'd rather you get free/or reduced birth control than all this other crap your getting. My kids have insurance and it is costing my husband an arm and a leg. My employer covers me so he doesn't have that expense. I'm sorry but we're busting our butts off to make ends meet and too many people aren't doing their share. There I said it.

I understand were you are coming from we have a small Company and have a few guys that make or should I say bring home around $700.00 to $800.00
a week.

But are always broke But they will tell you what a good time they had at or near the bar or some place.

We try to work 5 or 6 days a week steady and sometimes at night but a lot of these guys do not want over time or or more hours.

And also these guys have wives or live in girlfriends who do not work and most of them are in the age of 22 to mid 40 and they all talk about I wish I had this or that ........... Well get your [edit] in gear and you will get it.

They spend more time trying to (work) the system then trying to work a paying job.........

Me and my wife started our Company in 1990 and its still going strong today (we do Commercial tile & epoxy floors) the first 7 years I worked at lest 60 to 70 hr per week just to build up our name.

And also we took our first vacation for 4 days & night back in 2000 of dec too WDW

I found out hard work will payoff.

Ron.

 

[mom2aredhead]

I 100% agree with you.

I heard someone say this on TV today, but I don't remember who it was...

If you read the Declaration of Independence, you are entitled to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness. Not instant happiness. Not guaranteed happiness. The PURSUIT of happiness. Which means there may be work in obtaining the actual happiness.

Too many people think they're owed or entitled to something, whether its from the government, an employer, or someone else without having to any work toward their goal.

 

[tileman]

Too many people think they're owed or entitled to something, whether its from the government, an employer, or someone else without having to any work toward their goal.


So true

 

[hentob]

I want to scream at these young women GET A JOB!!! STOP HAVING BABIES!!!

I agree. I agree. I agree.

 

[NMAmy]

Flame away!!!! I'm getting tired of having to fill out proof of income forms for employees to get food stamps, help w housing and free insurance for their kids. Yeah I'm in a pissy mood. These guys wives don't work come in here with a kid on their hip another one in the car and usually one on the way. I don't wish ill on these children I just get fed up with working full time and my DH works full time and he has a side business and I'm working a part-time job. I want to scream at these young women GET A JOB!!! STOP HAVING BABIES!!! I'd rather you get free/or reduced birth control than all this other crap your getting. My kids have insurance and it is costing my husband an arm and a leg. My employer covers me so he doesn't have that expense. I'm sorry but we're busting our butts off to make ends meet and too many people aren't doing their share. There I said it.

So does this place that you all work not offer insurance? It's hard to tell from your post but it seems as though the employees can't get insurance through work for their kids, is that correct? If the women get a part-time job, they probably won't be eligible for insurance, either. So I could see why they might need insurance through the state if that's the case.

 

[hentob]

So does this place that you all work not offer insurance? It's hard to tell from your post but it seems as though the employees can't get insurance through work for their kids, is that correct? If the women get a part-time job, they probably won't be eligible for insurance, either. So I could see why they might need insurance through the state if that's the case.

But, they should stop having children if they can't feed, house or insure the ones that they currently have.

 

[hentob]

If you havent been in the position where you needed a little help then good for you. I have been in that position and I thank God the help was there when I needed it!

I think she is talking about people that keep having children whilst on welfare. They should NOT have a child if they can't afford to feed it

 

[beckmrk04]

I guess I just can't imagine knowing enough about a persons entire personal situation to make such harsh judgements simply by filling out some forms for them..

That's what I was thinking.

And maybe it's the bleeding heart liberal in me ( ) but I'm glad those programs are in place. Sure, maybe some people do abuse them (in fact, I know a woman who does, and she's despicable), but I am more than happy to help children get insurance and food with my tax dollars. And I was thankful that when I lost my job when I was pregnant and very ill, I was able to get WIC and get help with formula costs after I stopped breastfeeding when I went back to work when my child was 9 weeks old. I had to swallow a whole bunch of pride to do it, but I am thankful that it was there.

I know it's frustrating for people who are busting their butts to make it.

I work full time. My DH has a full time job AND is going to school for a second bachelor's degree. And I just left an office I really, really liked to move to one that is closer to home to save gas money because our budget is so tight.

But being mad at other people for taking advantage of the system (IF that's what's going on) is not going to make MY situation any better, and really- I doubt they are living in the lap of luxury living on the state.

And as for the comment someone made about people shouldn't have a child if they can't afford to feed it: You never know what's going to happen. People have major illnesses, unexpected job loss, unexpected pregnancies. It happens. And children are one of the greatest joys in the world, I can't imagine telling people, "You can't have a child because you've had unfortunate circumstances and you are too poor." I'm sure many of us wouldn't be here if our parents waited until they could afford a child.

 

[Carly_Roach]

I think she is talking about people that keep having children whilst on welfare. They should NOT have a child if they can't afford to feed it

Maybe these wives belong to a church that takes a dim view on abortion? It doesn't sound like there's health insurance being offered so maybe they can't afford b/c pills? If they're struggling to put food on the table and diapers on the babies, buying condoms seems like an luxury, doesn't it? Or, if they're Catholic, b/c is also a sin so their choices dwindle with every waking moment.

Or maybe the new rule is that anyone, even married people, shouldn't be having sex if they can't afford b/c, sterilization or children. That sounds more like it. We'd have more "I think my husband is cheating on me" threads here to entertain ourselves with.

(sorry in advance. I'll feel better soon)

 

[Cool-Beans]

Hire ex-cons. Not only are they very grateful that you took a chance on them that many wouldn't and work hard, but you also get the government to pay you back for their salary for a year.

You have to fill out paperwork, but you get people who work hard and you don't have to pay for it. Filling out those forms isn't such a chore when you have hard-working employees that you don't have to pay. Win-win.

Sometimes their wives/girlfriends make you stuff and send it in for Christmas or your birthday or whatever, too.

 

[disney1990]

There but for the Grace of God go I.

 

[C.Ann]

There but for the Grace of God go I.

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Could we get everyone to repeat that about two million times??

 

[stacyp9]

Flame away!!!! I'm getting tired of having to fill out proof of income forms for employees to get food stamps, help w housing and free insurance for their kids. Yeah I'm in a pissy mood. These guys wives don't work come in here with a kid on their hip another one in the car and usually one on the way. I don't wish ill on these children I just get fed up with working full time and my DH works full time and he has a side business and I'm working a part-time job. I want to scream at these young women GET A JOB!!! STOP HAVING BABIES!!! I'd rather you get free/or reduced birth control than all this other crap your getting. My kids have insurance and it is costing my husband an arm and a leg. My employer covers me so he doesn't have that expense. I'm sorry but we're busting our butts off to make ends meet and too many people aren't doing their share. There I said it.

How is the view up there on your pedestal? You don't have the faintest idea what these people's situations are or how they got there. You are making mean sweeping judgements based on pure speculation. I hope you never find yourself on the receiving end of that kind of treatment.

 

[stacyp9]

I think she is talking about people that keep having children whilst on welfare. They should NOT have a child if they can't afford to feed it

How do you suggest they avoid it? Should married couples on welfare not have sex? Have abortions? No birth control method is 100% protective.

 

[hentob]

How do you suggest they avoid it? Should married couples on welfare not have sex? Have abortions? No birth control method is 100% protective.

Married


How about they use birth control

Abortion is ok by me. Gasp.

Adoption.

Tubal/vasectomy.

Take your pic...just no more babies if you can't FEED them!!