Is this bride "selfish"???

*WOW* Are you serious? Obligated? I cannot imagine not talking to my family about my marriage and just dismissing them like you're inferring. I don't know if you're married yet or if you have kids close to marrying age or what but man I'd like to be the fly on the wall when your kid tells you "this is when I'm getting married, this is where, be there if you can" or if you said that to your parents, the pain it would cause them. There is a difference in dictating to someone everything about their wedding and what is being discussed here. There is still a thing called respect......the bride and groom both are really disrespecting their parents by how they are going about this.

Our oldest son and daughter in law did not discuss their wedding plans with us. They chose a destination wedding. We chose to go and we also chose to pay for our other two adult sons/spouses to go. Had a great time.

Never ever once did I think that our son disrespected us. And yes, we paid for half of the wedding in addition to the cost for all of us to go as it was a gift without strings.
 
We are talking about an adult, who has graduated from law school, had her own child and rented a beach house for a month with her fiance. We aren't talking about about some just out of high school girl in puppy love needing her mom and dad to help with the plans. Obviously she is able to handle it on her own, much to the dismay of her parents. She has made a decision to marry a man she obviously loves and is being accused of being selfish because she did it without discussing it, with the parents. This bride and groom are under no obligation to make sure their wedding plans are okay with anyone but themselves. Its not like they gave the parents a day notice, they have given them 3 months. How do we know that after the birth of her child and finishing school she just felt this is the next logical step for her own life and was excited to be able to make iot happen as soon as possible? Maybe she didn't discuss it with her parents because there was no plan before it and they are making the plans now and letting them know now. I guess the parents are too wrapped up in how these plans effect them and how selfish their dd is being to even consider that. Anyone ever consider that the bride may be equally hurt that her family views her as selfish, probably not. All anyone can see is some little Bridezilla because she wants HER wedding a certain way and how dare it be just her decision, and how dare she not make sure its okay with her parents that its a destination wedding, and how dare she have it so close to their vacation, how dare she notthink of everyone else and how her wedding will effect them.... Well I say I dare they, and you are right there is disrespect, on the parents part for expecting their adult daughter to cater to them and the other would be guests when it comes to her own wedding.

BTW I am a mom and I'm going to advise my children to do whatever they want when it comes to their wedding and I will do what it takes to be a part of it and make sure they have teh wedding of their dreams. See I already had mine, got to do it my way, now its their turn.

:thumbsup2 I loved what you wrote and could not have said it better.

I am a person who had a destination wedding and I don't regret it one bit. My parents were unable to attend and they backed me 100%. THANK GOD I have a very understanding and loving family! Every one has a reason for where and when they get married and not everyone will understand it. I wish this couple the very best because they are totally going to need it with this family.
 
You're right NM Amy, the mother might not even care if she misses the wedding! Not everyone has a good relationship with their mom. Then of course, the daughter would also not need to consult mom when choosing a date.

You know how some families have a crazy person that always freaks out at special occasions and ruins them all? That is my future MIL my Df doesnt care if she comes.
 

Our oldest son and daughter in law did not discuss their wedding plans with us. They chose a destination wedding. We chose to go and we also chose to pay for our other two adult sons/spouses to go. Had a great time.

Never ever once did I think that our son disrespected us. And yes, we paid for half of the wedding in addition to the cost for all of us to go as it was a gift without strings.

You are an awesome mom and MIL!
 
Our oldest son and daughter in law did not discuss their wedding plans with us. They chose a destination wedding. We chose to go and we also chose to pay for our other two adult sons/spouses to go. Had a great time.

Never ever once did I think that our son disrespected us. And yes, we paid for half of the wedding in addition to the cost for all of us to go as it was a gift without strings.

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Our oldest son and daughter in law did not discuss their wedding plans with us. They chose a destination wedding. We chose to go and we also chose to pay for our other two adult sons/spouses to go. Had a great time.

Never ever once did I think that our son disrespected us. And yes, we paid for half of the wedding in addition to the cost for all of us to go as it was a gift without strings.

:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2
 
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I think this thread is full of former "Destination" Brides:rotfl:

I think it might also be a generational thing. In my age bracket, destination weddings are common. People aren't shocked horrified or offended by them. Those that usually are seem to be those that got married a decade or so ago. Am I crazy in thinking this? It def seems to be an "old school" vz "new school" thing. Its the same debate with sending thank yous whether it has to be done in 3 months or whether its a year. Things that used to be unacceptable are now more accepted at least by our age group.
 
Can I ask, is eloping selfish? If not, why not? How is it different than a destination wedding, and would those who think a destination wedding selfish feel equally maligned if someone in their family eloped?

It seems like the same thing to me: an option chosen by the bride and groom that excludes the desires/wishes of the extended family.
 
:thumbsup2 I loved what you wrote and could not have said it better.

I am a person who had a destination wedding and I don't regret it one bit. My parents were unable to attend and they backed me 100%. THANK GOD I have a very understanding and loving family! .

Wow-I can't imagine the parents not attending.
I would be horribly hurt if I could not attend my child's wedding.
To me NO destination is more important than the Family.

Guess I'm just old fashioned.
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I think it might also be a generational thing. In my age bracket, destination weddings are common. People aren't shocked horrified or offended by them. Those that usually are seem to be those that got married a decade or so ago. Am I crazy in thinking this? It def seems to be an "old school" vz "new school" thing. Its the same debate with sending thank yous whether it has to be done in 3 months or whether its a year. Things that used to be unacceptable are now more accepted at least by our age group.

Exactly how old do you think people who got married a decade ago are? :lmao: I am 31, married in 1998. Most of my friends are just now getting married. I happen to think destination weddings are wonderful, and have attended a few. Your post kind of cracked me up.
 
Can I ask, is eloping selfish? If not, why not? How is it different than a destination wedding, and would those who think a destination wedding selfish feel equally maligned if someone in their family eloped?

It seems like the same thing to me: an option chosen by the bride and groom that excludes the desires/wishes of the extended family.


Judging from what I've seen some people say earlier in the thread, yes. Some people seem to think that the tradition of bringing two families together must be preserved. Frankly, I almost always reject "tradition" arguments. Up until very recently, and to this day for many, the wedding was the celebration of selling one's daughter into another family. The "bringing two families together" has such dubious origins, really.

Was this bride selfish? No. What would be selfish would be her planning the destination wedding and then inviting dad, but not step mom. Alternatively, planning the wedding and then presenting the parents with the bill would be selfish.
 
Destination weddings are quite common among my peers (I'm 35). I think that people who choose to get married after they are a little older, have their careers established, and sometimes already have children, just aren't looking for the "traditional" church wedding, the big poofy dress, etc.

They also feel that they are old enough to pay for their own wedding, and wouldn't dream of asking their parents to pay for it.

That being said, lets say a couple has $5K-$10K saved to throw themselves a wedding. They don't want the traditional wedding anyway, and it's not like $5K-$10K would get them very far even if they did.

A simple beach wedding becomes the perfect solution. They get to exchange their vows, and get beautiful pictures to savor the memories. They worry that if they elope, their parents might be offended, so they decide to invite their immediate families to join them. It's basically "eloping" but inviting those closest to them to come too if they wish. It's not an obligation, merely an invitation that anyone can decline.

Not only does the couple get a wonderful wedding with wonderful pictures, but they also saved their parents $20K-$50K (when compared to couple who have a "traditional" wedding that is paid for by their parents). Nothing selfish about it.
 
Wow. You've made up a whole back story--where in the world did you get this?

The OP of this thread is not a parent of the bride. We don't know that the parents are "dismayed" or that they are too wrapped up in how the plans effect them or even that they themselves think the bride is being selfish. It seems as though you have come up with a whole story and you're jumping to the defense of the bride when we have no idea how the actual mother of the bride feels. :confused3


I'm not defending her from her mother and I hope that she doesn't have any problems with what her dd is doing. I'm defending her from the posters on this thread who assume she's selfish and disrespectful without knowing her back story either.
 
See, her siblings and parents will definitely come...


I feel her selfishness is that her younger brother-starting 8th grade(he is a stellar scholar and never misses school) and 3 nieces/nephews will miss school in the first weeks to attend this.

Their school starts Aug 10(very early this year)-and the fact her mom used up her vacation already.


So you fly down on a Friday afternoon and fly home on Sunday night. It will cost more, but everyone will be happy.

Seriously, I have no problem with my kids missing one or two days of school (and yes, I had an eighth grader who was in honors classes!) -- it won't kill them that early in the schoolyear.
 
At the tropical island, her DH's ex "forced" them to host the "rehearsal" dinner. The guests were supposed to have a party room-instead were scattered all over the public dining room-and they had to pay for all the meals and wine-this added cost above the trip (plane, hotel etc) really upset her.There were no toasts, no nothing-just a bunch of random wedding guests whose meals she and her dh had to pay for

No one can force you do anything. If they paid then they cnnot complain. I would not have paid or anything that I did not agree to and would never pay for a mishmash affair like you described if I had booked a party room. I also do not simply pay for things without checking out what i was agreeing to. DH and I paid for our DD and our DS's weddings but we knew what we were paying for and how much we were spending.

I know that

Couple had been living together a few years -had a kid
Parents were invited to a destination ceremony
Nothing was said about a "Rehearsal Dinner" until my friend was there-on island
The group was NOT together , giving toasts...scattered on tables with OTHER HOTEL GUESTS all over the big dining room
Friend felt "used" to pay for everyone's meals the night before the wedding-is how she described it to me

Again, I am a parent and there is no way I would pay for any meal that I did not choose to pay for....not even for my son. The freind felt used but how did her husband feel. Perhaps the "step" in stepson got in the way here. I understand that happens but I do not understand it. My DH is not the "father" of my children but he was in total agreemnet about what we wanted to do for them when they married. He did not feel used at all.

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I think this thread is full of former "Destination" Brides:rotfl:

I am not a destination bride, in fact when I married my husband 17 years ago today, we had a huge family wedding. Not at all what was in fashion at that time. We rented a hall, hired two bands, had two meals and danced and hosted a party from 10 AM til 11 PM. My husbands large family was invited right down to his 3rd cousins children.


Now, with that out of the way, I have three adult children, two are married. We paid for both my sons and my daughter's weddings. We wanted to. We did not tell them what to do, made suggestions when asked but that was it. Parents need to remember that when their children marry they are really beginning to form their own family, starting to determine how they handle extended family and learning how to please each other before their own Mother and Father.

I love my children, would walk through fire for any one of them but would be very sad to learn that one had decided that my dream for their wedding day superseded that dream of their spouse. I had my day, made my commitment to my husband and formed my family knowing that no one would ever come before any one of them. I agree that a wedding is the joining of two families, but that is in my family. But even in my very closeknit overwhelmingly connected family a wedding is a sacrament between those two people and their bond is the priority. Noone should tell them how that commitment should take place or decide that they are selfish if they choose a place that is not convenient or appropriate or acceptable to others.

Now if pressure is placed on family and friends to join them when they cannot or do not want to attend then that is selfish.

HighClass- I read a lot of your threads and I wonder if you approve of your family or how they and their children live theri lives. I only see the tone of your posts and I know a lot can be lost in a post but my observation is that if you would not do something or if the lifestyle is not what you have determinesd is proper then it is all wrong.

I don't see a selfish couple here, I just see a couple who have a vision of how they want to begin their lives together. I did nto hear that they pressured their family to do anything, but that they included them if they wanted to attend.
 
My husband and I had a destination wedding, and I don't think it was selfish of us at all. That is how we wanted to spend our day. Immediate family and close friends that were able to make the trip came and had a GREAT time.... People are STILL talking about it almost 3 years later...... We also didn't hold anything against those who weren't able to attend. We had a big traditional reception about a month after our actual wedding and pretty much everyone we invited, happily attended... If you want to know about selfish.. I think selfish is people begrudging a happy couple for how they want to spend their day. If you don't want to go, or sadly can't go, then tell them that. Don't be mad because they didn't choose the wedding you would have liked.
 
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I think this thread is full of former "Destination" Brides:rotfl:

I totally support destination weddings, or any type of wedding the bride and groom want. BTW, I got married in my home town, where I live, my parents live, and my DH grew up here, too. I had my ceremony in a Catholic church, because that was important to our parents and grandparents. My sister got married on a beach at a destination wedding, and although her DH's parents are devote Catholics, all of the family supported them, because it was THEIR wedding.
 
I am not a destination bride, in fact when I married my husband 17 years ago today, we had a huge family wedding. Not at all what was in fashion at that time. We rented a hall, hired two bands, had two meals and danced and hosted a party from 10 AM til 11 PM. My husbands large family was invited right down to his 3rd cousins children.



That sounds like a Traditional wedding-that has been around for the last 30 years to me???

HighClass- I only see the tone of your posts and I know a lot can be lost in a post but my observation is that if you would not do something or if the lifestyle is not what you have determinesd is proper then it is all wrong.

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Funny you say that. Dh & I lived together for a few years-which was REALLY not the norm " back in the day"-So I am not a huge conformist.
This thread was simply asking about Destination weddings being selfish. From my brother's reaction, it will not be how he wanted to spend a week, although he loves his stepDD dearly, the time , expense, vacation time already used up , and his only child missing school right at the start of school year were his concerns. Somehow everyone thinks I hate this bride-not true at all-just curious how others feel about destination weddings.
 
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I think this thread is full of former "Destination" Brides:rotfl:

I'm 44, and I've been married 23 years. We got married in our home town. Some family and friends had to travel for the wedding, but that was their choice since they loved us and wanted to see us get married. We didn't force them to do so.

My kids know they can have whatever wedding they want, as long as they and the future spouse agree.

<snark mode on/>But then again, unlike the OP, I like my family and friends, and feel they have the right to make their own decisions.</snark mode off>
 












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