Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[TipsyTraveler]

Just curious, (I am way behind on this thread, so this topic was being talked about yesterday) lots of people here thought that Megan should have reached out to her Mom for help with her mental health issues since they are "so close".

Personally, I am very close with my Mom, but at almost age 40, (I am 53 ) I wasnt reaching out to my Mom for any health issues.

The average age of Moms of 40 year old kids are 60-70 years old. I share a LOT with my Mom, but not really medical stuff as I don't want to worry her.

I totally agree that Harry should have helped Megan get the help she needed, but, again, many people contributing to this thread, suggested that she should have alerted her Mom.

I am super close to my kids and they often call me for advice etc. But, I am trying to picture being 60-70 years old and my 40 year old child calling me from another country and asking me to help them get medical help.

I was curious if there’s any info out there about her possibly reaching out to her mom for help, so off to Google I went. I didn’t find anything about her mom, but I did come across this, below. One of the people she is thought to have reached out to was a psychotherapist, so it sounds like she was trying to take matters into her own hands for securing help for herself.

“But she did find solace in one of Princess Diana's close friends. “One of the people I reached out to was one of my husband's mom's best friends, one of Diana's best friends,” she told Winfrey, adding, “Because it's, like, who else could understand what it's actually like on the inside?”

The person was not named but some have speculated it was Julia Samuels, a psychotherapist who was a good friend of Diana’s and who remains close to both Prince William and Harry. She is also godmother to William’s son, Prince George.”

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/s...iend-mental-health-struggles-oprah-interview/
Another interesting tidbit I came across was that the interview was 3 hours and 20 minutes long. Only 1 hour and 25 minutes made it to air, so there’s more we haven’t seen than there is that we have.

 

[mousefan73]

In my opinion, the whole thing has just gotten creepy. They're sending out surrogates to claim how they have texts and things to prove their claims..."receipts."
Yecch, yecch and double yecch. Who threatens to make public the private messages sent among family? It's being reported that the Queen will talk with them. How the heck can she, when they're probably recording the conversation? She certainly can't be candid with them.

They've broken every rule of family -- royal or not. Their behavior is inexcusable.

Yeah I saw that interview and I was like what!!! You know she was planted to talk. Because if she is the friend she claims to be she one of done it without their permission

 

[mousefan73]

I know it’s a bit OT. But I would just love To handover my and my family’s passports to some assistant knowing that one. 1. It will never get missed placed 2. Expire before a trip and not realizing it. Both which have happened to me before in the past.

Our first WDW vacation a week before I realized my sons passport has expired. I cried like no tomorrow and was able to get an emergency passport issued at the consulate. Involved 6 hours driving and the whole day

 

[fortwildernessishome]

I am 51 for reference. When I was 40, my mom was 64 still working a full time job, taking students on international trips, travelling internationally in her spare time etc. Even today at almost 76 she is still very active (lives alone, drives for Meals on Wheels,, still travels). I would absolutely reach out to her if I needed something.

Being 60-70 is not on a deathbed in a nursing home. Heck, my husband is 61 and can run circles around most people. He absolutely can solve any problem and help in any way a 40 year old can.

OMG, I hardly think that 60-70 is on a deathbed in a nursing home!!! Good Lord!!! Only on the Dis!!! Ha, ha, ha!!!

I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer at age 44. It was pretty dire the first month after diagnosis, before my prognosis improved. My Mom was 68 and the picture of health!! (She is now 78 and still the picture of health!!!) I loved my Mom so much that i didnt want to panic and worry her too much, so in the early days I leaned on my husband and girl friends. I have always talked to my Mom everyday, and she of course was the first person I told about the cancer after my husband, but wouldnt have been calling her to figure out my crazy cancer schedule. Maybe, I just protect my Mom more than other people? I don't know, the thought of her laying awake and crying/worrying about me, would have made me sadder than I already was!

So yeah, even though she is the picture of health and hikes, bikes, travels and takes care of everything for herself, I wouldnt chose to worry her and instead would lean on my friends, brother, sister-in-laws etc. if my husband couldnt help me!

 

[fortwildernessishome]

I was curious if there’s any info out there about her possibly reaching out to her mom for help, so off to Google I went. I didn’t find anything about her mom, but I did come across this, below. One of the people she is thought to have reached out to was a psychotherapist, so it sounds like she was trying to take matters into her own hands for securing help for herself.

“But she did find solace in one of Princess Diana's close friends. “One of the people I reached out to was one of my husband's mom's best friends, one of Diana's best friends,” she told Winfrey, adding, “Because it's, like, who else could understand what it's actually like on the inside?”

The person was not named but some have speculated it was Julia Samuels, a psychotherapist who was a good friend of Diana’s and who remains close to both Prince William and Harry. She is also godmother to William’s son, Prince George.”

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/s...iend-mental-health-struggles-oprah-interview/
Another interesting tidbit I came across was that the interview was 3 hours and 20 minutes long. Only 1 hour and 25 minutes made it to air, so there’s more we haven’t seen than there is that we have.

Thanks for sharing! Yes, this all makes much more sense to me, as far as reaching out for help.

 

[fortwildernessishome]

We have no idea whether she did or didn't reach out to her mom or how her mom did or would have responded, so I'm not going to offer an opinion on that either way. As for the topic of your post, most (not all) people know mom is the one person that will always be there anytime you need her. Unfortunately, my mom is gone. If she weren't, I'd still be calling her, when I have difficult times. She was the only person, other than DH, that I would discuss something like that with. I hope my DS feels like he can call me for anything, regardless of how old I am.

Oh, I know we have no idea. I was just surprised that so many thought that would be the perfect solution..

And yes, my Mom is always there for me and we are very close, I only said, that if I was seriously ill and didnt have a husband to help me, I wouldnt be reaching out to my Mom. I just hate to worry her. I guess I am lucky that I have many, many people in my life that I am close to and would turn to them first with my serious worries. (Just an example, I have had three different cancers. Because of that, I had to go through genetic testing. There was concern I might have Lynch Syndrome among other things. I was terrified and had to wait a long two weeks to get the results. I didnt want my poor Mom to have two weeks of sleepless nights, so I didnt even tell her about it, until after I got the results. My husband and friends supported me)

I too hope that my kids always call me like they do now.

Again, I was just surprised that so many thought that Megan should call her mother to fly over and take care of things. Thats just not a step I would have taken.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

I remember someone way upthread questioning why Oprah didn’t ask Meghan about her relationship with her father’s side of the family. Turns out she did, it just wasn’t aired.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meghan-markle-father-thomas-british-press-tabloids/

 

[fortwildernessishome]

As a follow up since this is the Dis.

I just find it facinating that some folks suggested that Megan at almost 40 should have called her Mom, who lives in another country, to assist her in finding treatment. When on the other hand, I have seen countless posts on the Dis, where parents proudly say that once their kids are 18 they take over all of their medical care. I have seen posters aghast at the thought of a parent calling up to make an appt. for a 18, 19, 20, 21 year old child.

I just thought it was interesting to see so many suggest that an almost 40 year old Megans Mom should assist.

 

[snappy]

We have no idea whether she did or didn't reach out to her mom or how her mom did or would have responded, so I'm not going to offer an opinion on that either way. As for the topic of your post, most (not all) people know mom is the one person that will always be there anytime you need her. Unfortunately, my mom is gone. If she weren't, I'd still be calling her, when I have difficult times. She was the only person, other than DH, that I would discuss something like that with. I hope my DS feels like he can call me for anything, regardless of how old I am.

Sorry you lost your mom. I am fortunate to still have mine. She stayed overnight with me in the hospital during a very difficult reconstruction surgery, and I was there for her during 2 cancer surgeries, and 2 others. She was there for me when I was in a bad situation at age 22, and I am there for her now when she is 90 and is failing. I am fortunate in that she is very appreciative for what I do and trusts me with her health and financial affairs.

 

[snappy]

I know it’s a bit OT. But I would just love To handover my and my family’s passports to some assistant knowing that one. 1. It will never get missed placed 2. Expire before a trip and not realizing it. Both which have happened to me before in the past.

Our first WDW vacation a week before I realized my sons passport has expired. I cried like no tomorrow and was able to get an emergency passport issued at the consulate. Involved 6 hours driving and the whole day

I guess Meghan got her passport back when she relocated to Canada in 2019 and eventually ended up in CA. Maybe it didn’t matter though, she had her “spare.”

 

[redrosesix]

Well - the way I'm reading her claims, she didn't have direct custody of her passport - i.e. it was held by her security personnel traveling with them. Whether or not she "saw" it might be splitting hairs. When I was younger I travelled internationally and I never got to see my passport until someone else pulled it out for me.

it's perfectly acceptable for a parent to carry passports for their children...but Meghan is a parent. Security would not be holding her passport while she went through customs and immigration.

Her exact words were: “You have to understand, as well, when I joined that family, that was the last time … that I saw my passport, my driver’s license, my keys. All that gets turned over.” It simply isn't true, or she would have never been able to visit other countries, which she did.

Since the interview there has been elaboration on this issue from people who know; all documentation like passports are kept in a safe place but she could have had access to them at any time.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrit...ve-up-her-passport-keys-after-marrying-royal/

 

[snappy]

I think relationships between mother and child can depend on personalities. Our son and older daughter are independent and self-reliant young people. Our youngest at 25 shares much more of her trials and successes and seeks advice and shares confidences much more readily, especially with me. This includes landing new jobs, picking out new places to live, furnishing them, as well as relationship and health concerns. She does not live in the same state anymore, yet that bond is as strong as ever. I can’t wait till I get to see her again when we can travel to her state. It’s been way too long.

 

[snappy]

it's perfectly acceptable for a parent to carry passports for their children...but Meghan is a parent. Security would not be holding her passport while she went through customs and immigration.

Her exact words were: “You have to understand, as well, when I joined that family, that was the last time … that I saw my passport, my driver’s license, my keys. All that gets turned over.” It simply isn't true, or she would have never been able to visit other countries, which she did.

Since the interview there has been elaboration on this issue from palace security; all documentation like passports are kept in a safe place but she could have had access to them at any time.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrit...ve-up-her-passport-keys-after-marrying-royal/

Thanks for the link.

 

[Disneylover99]

As a follow up since this is the Dis.

I just find it facinating that some folks suggested that Megan at almost 40 should have called her Mom, who lives in another country, to assist her in finding treatment. When on the other hand, I have seen countless posts on the Dis, where parents proudly say that once their kids are 18 they take over all of their medical care. I have seen posters aghast at the thought of a parent calling up to make an appt. for a 18, 19, 20, 21 year old child.

I just thought it was interesting to see so many suggest that an almost 40 year old Megans Mom should assist.

If your mom is a mental health social worker and you’ve got suicidal thoughts, and nobody else will help you, calling her seems like a no-brainer to me.

 

[fortwildernessishome]

If your mom is a mental health social worker and you’ve got suicidal thoughts, and nobody else will help you, calling her seems like a no-brainer to me.

okay!

 

[morgan98]

Oh, I know we have no idea. I was just surprised that so many thought that would be the perfect solution..

And yes, my Mom is always there for me and we are very close, I only said, that if I was seriously ill and didnt have a husband to help me, I wouldnt be reaching out to my Mom. I just hate to worry her. I guess I am lucky that I have many, many people in my life that I am close to and would turn to them first with my serious worries. (Just an example, I have had three different cancers. Because of that, I had to go through genetic testing. There was concern I might have Lynch Syndrome among other things. I was terrified and had to wait a long two weeks to get the results. I didnt want my poor Mom to have two weeks of sleepless nights, so I didnt even tell her about it, until after I got the results. My husband and friends supported me)

I too hope that my kids always call me like they do now.

Again, I was just surprised that so many thought that Megan should call her mother to fly over and take care of things. Thats just not a step I would have taken.

And thank you for clarifying. This makes sense from a perspective of worrying a parent, I get that.

However, if Meghan did not feel like anyone else - like her husband - was listening, calling her mom to tell her she was in bad shape could have been an option. I am not saying turning her medical care and records over to her mother, more like her mom could have maybe called, Harry, Charles, I dunno someone and said, "Meghan really needs help."

 

[TLSnell1981]

If your mom is a mental health social worker and you’ve got suicidal thoughts, and nobody else will help you, calling her seems like a no-brainer to me.

I've heard Doria Ragland was a mental healthcare professional and also a flight attendant.

 

[Disneylover99]

I've heard Doria Ragland was a mental healthcare professional and also a flight attendant.

Even better! She can serve drinks/snacks and provide sound advice.

 

[bcla]

it's perfectly acceptable for a parent to carry passports for their children...but Meghan is a parent. Security would not be holding her passport while she went through customs and immigration.

Her exact words were: “You have to understand, as well, when I joined that family, that was the last time … that I saw my passport, my driver’s license, my keys. All that gets turned over.” It simply isn't true, or she would have never been able to visit other countries, which she did.

Since the interview there has been elaboration on this issue from people who know; all documentation like passports are kept in a safe place but she could have had access to them at any time.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrit...ve-up-her-passport-keys-after-marrying-royal/

I don't necessarily take what she said that literally. It sounded to me that she was trying to portray how different life was where an adult would be expected to hand over ID or travel documents for safekeeping. For some people that might be considered routine, while for others that might be disconcerting.

The President of the United States has his passports held by staff. Someone wrote a question to the Obama White House and there were a couple of answers by his personal secretary as to who held them, and then by a travel coordinator who pulled it out of the safe where it was stored.

 

[redrosesix]

I remember someone way upthread questioning why Oprah didn’t ask Meghan about her relationship with her father’s side of the family. Turns out she did, it just wasn’t aired.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meghan-markle-father-thomas-british-press-tabloids/

As was the part where Harry told Oprah it wasn't the Queen or Prince Philip who made the notorious comment. Looks like a few things ended up on the cutting room floor. without those bits, the interview is much more scandalous.

I wonder what else is missing. the original interview was 3 hours 20 minutes.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...winfrey-meghan-harry-archie-skin-color-racism

lol even the website address bothers me. these people are making a lot of money because they got all the right buzzwords in there.