Yeah that's crazy to me. You already have reservations for the full days and you want to add a day that has availability so I don't see the problem. Crazy. Sorry maybe once you get there someone will help and you and add it for you.
 
Has anyone been to The Flower & Garden Festival today & can tell me where to get the giftcard you put on your wrist? Also can you use a giftcard to purchase it (we've got a lot of giftcards to use)?

I bought mine at the gift shop at International Gateway. I couldn't use a MagicBand, I had to use the physical credit card that's linked on it. No word about paying for a gift card with a gift card. Minimum amount is $15.
 
I'm here now! I've been here since Monday and leave Thursday. Been staying at the Yacht Club where I was given a club level water view room.

Too bad the club level lounge isn't open.

But anyway, Spice Road Table is a hidden gem. Food and service was fabulous. I ate too much at Ale and Compass tonight. The bacon jam with the Parker Rolls wasn't a hit for me. I've been to Epcot briefly and Hollywood Studios. It felt crowded but I only waited 60 minutes tops for anything.
 

Just a bit of a run down of our time so far, as todays our sleep in day with Epcot.

3/9 -DHS

We're at CBR; tried for boarding pass right at 7 - we have terrible reception here both wifi and data (verizon) - we left the room, went in 3 different directions and none of us got in (we've done this 2 other trips at the 10am time with no issues) - there were a few other ppl out and it appeared none of them got in either, so keep that in mind if you're staying at CBR. - We're in Aruba area.
In line for skyliner at 705 and were the 6th family in line. - Line quickly grew. Around 740 they opened the gates and they pulled the first 7 families up into the main line to board. There we waited until almost 8...at some point Pop ppl started arriving and they pulled the first 10 families or so of them to a parallel line next to us to board. Right around 8 they started board- alternating between groups right from the start. As we arrived at DHS, walkers were already there and some buses, but no cars. We waited about 18 groups back for temp check which started at 815.
We went straight to Slinky (walk on), ToT- 20 mins., RnR 15 mins. - by now it was a bit after 9 and lines really started to get long. We did TSM - 35 min wait, AS 25 min wait., Star Tours 25 min wait, got in line for muppets, but after 25 mins and seeing how much further we had, we all looked at each other and said it Muppets why are waiting this long and bailed. I had put in a mobile order to try the grilled cheese at Woodys and it was finally ready, so we went there and sat at a table, ate, and rested for a while (youngest took a nap in the stroller.) It was a much needed break as it was realky busy. We had a 1255 reservation at Scifi, so eventually headed over. Right before 1, we pulled over and tried again for a boarding pass and got 105. We ate at scifi, then did MMRR with about a 40 min wait. We then did Rise with about a 55 min wait. Then we tried to do frozen but 31 mins prior to next show, the line was spilling out into the outside of the line so we passed. We did the vacation video thing with a 2 min wait (really not impressed at all, but somewhere to sit for 10 mins, but won't do it again.) We then went to scoops. found a table and had some ice cream. My oldest went to go look in shops while my youngest and I went to stand in line for RnR. Ended up waiting around 40 mins. We then went to do TOT - posted 65 mins., went to 70 as we were in line, but then back down to 60. We ended up waiting 111 mins. for this - totally insane. I have no idea where they came up with there 60-70 min mark, it was nowhere near that. I'm sure we hit a cleaning cycle at some point as we were in line for close to 2 hrs, but to be off that much??? ToT seems to be pain stakingly slow at all times right now. Even in the morning it took a while considering where the line started. For reference, that evening we started back in Fantasmic area and looped around quite a bit back there - the line built fast when we were there in the am as well, as by the time we got done with our first ride (before official park open) the line was already starting back in Fantasmic. My daughters rode TSM and MMRR in the evening while we were waiting for TOT and still had time to meet us in line. Close to 8 and we were in the very long line for skyliner - went back into walking path for Epcot. It moved quickly and we were on skyliner in about 25 mins.

Mon. was AK and MK (I'll do a report on that a lil later.) Todays Epcot and Thursday is MK.

Takeaways so far;

weather- so much colder and windier than I expected or wanted, but it's getting better lol.

CBR: We stayed before and said we wouldn't be back, but with PO c)osed andctye skyliner, we caved lol. It's been ok, CMs very nice, skyliner acceess great, but reception is rough and honestly we're getting sick of all thecwalking and again how spread out it is.

Parks: Busy, but seem more manageable than whe, we were here during fall break in Oct. I think partly due to it not being so crazy hot, partly because transportation has been so much better here as opposed to AKL (getting in parks 45 mins prior as opposed to 20 makes a huge difference,) and the extended hrs have been helpful.

SD and eating in lines: SD - ehh, we feel like it was better in Oct...more ppl. have not been stopping on their marks behind us this trip. Eating in lines - honestly no different than Oct., except that every once in a while you'll see a cm say something to someone about it (happened twice that I've seen so far, both were yesterday and neither time did it have any effect.) One time a lady went to ask the cm at the front of STours where the line startes. She had a frozen lemonade thing in her hand (wasn't opened though - no idea if it was full/empty etc.) The cm durected her to the end, but not before telling her that she couldn't eat in line. The lady just kinda looked at her and said I just asked where the end of the line was and walked off...not sure what happened from there. The other time was at mmrr...a family was eating ice cream and a cm said something, the dad got out of line and went a spoke to the cm...not sure what was said, it didn't seem rude etc, but then the family went back to eating...just as many others were around them. I know I'll get flamed on here for saying it, but I don't think there should be an issue with eating in the outside cues. You're already sd - honestly much more than most who are sitting on the side somewhere and I do feel that it's kinda unreasonable to think ppl. and kids can't eat/drink anything while walkinf around winding outdoor cues for 30-60 mins. and then take more time out of their day to go find a place to sit each time they want to snack/eat. It is what it is and I know many on hear think those who do are the devil, but just to give the experience of what I saw...I don’t think I saw 1 line yesterday (other than first thing in the am beforw park was opened) where there weren't ppl eating and drinking in outdoor lines. I never saw it once we were indoors but saw it constantly outdoors. At the tot lines ppl. were straight walking into the line past 2 cms with masks totally off and bowls of ice cream in their hands...nothing was said. I'm on the lower mid end in terms of Covid consciousness- wear a mask every day for work and always mask when I'm out and about, don't feel comfortable with super tight spaces, but not hugely concerned. Honestly I'm not sure how someone whos more covid conscious would hand)e Disney right now as it's just not super distanced anywhere eyc.

I'll be back to report more later..any specific questions I'm happy to answer.
 
Just a bit of a run down of our time so far, as todays our sleep in day with Epcot.

3/9 -DHS

We're at CBR; tried for boarding pass right at 7 - we have terrible reception here both wifi and data (verizon) - we left the room, went in 3 different directions and none of us got in (we've done this 2 other trips at the 10am time with no issues) - there were a few other ppl out and it appeared none of them got in either, so keep that in mind if you're staying at CBR. - We're in Aruba area.
In line for skyliner at 705 and were the 6th family in line. - Line quickly grew. Around 740 they opened the gates and they pulled the first 7 families up into the main line to board. There we waited until almost 8...at some point Pop ppl started arriving and they pulled the first 10 families or so of them to a parallel line next to us to board. Right around 8 they started board- alternating between groups right from the start. As we arrived at DHS, walkers were already there and some buses, but no cars. We waited about 18 groups back for temp check which started at 815.
We went straight to Slinky (walk on), ToT- 20 mins., RnR 15 mins. - by now it was a bit after 9 and lines really started to get long. We did TSM - 35 min wait, AS 25 min wait., Star Tours 25 min wait, got in line for muppets, but after 25 mins and seeing how much further we had, we all looked at each other and said it Muppets why are waiting this long and bailed. I had put in a mobile order to try the grilled cheese at Woodys and it was finally ready, so we went there and sat at a table, ate, and rested for a while (youngest took a nap in the stroller.) It was a much needed break as it was realky busy. We had a 1255 reservation at Scifi, so eventually headed over. Right before 1, we pulled over and tried again for a boarding pass and got 105. We ate at scifi, then did MMRR with about a 40 min wait. We then did Rise with about a 55 min wait. Then we tried to do frozen but 31 mins prior to next show, the line was spilling out into the outside of the line so we passed. We did the vacation video thing with a 2 min wait (really not impressed at all, but somewhere to sit for 10 mins, but won't do it again.) We then went to scoops. found a table and had some ice cream. My oldest went to go look in shops while my youngest and I went to stand in line for RnR. Ended up waiting around 40 mins. We then went to do TOT - posted 65 mins., went to 70 as we were in line, but then back down to 60. We ended up waiting 111 mins. for this - totally insane. I have no idea where they came up with there 60-70 min mark, it was nowhere near that. I'm sure we hit a cleaning cycle at some point as we were in line for close to 2 hrs, but to be off that much??? ToT seems to be pain stakingly slow at all times right now. Even in the morning it took a while considering where the line started. For reference, that evening we started back in Fantasmic area and looped around quite a bit back there - the line built fast when we were there in the am as well, as by the time we got done with our first ride (before official park open) the line was already starting back in Fantasmic. My daughters rode TSM and MMRR in the evening while we were waiting for TOT and still had time to meet us in line. Close to 8 and we were in the very long line for skyliner - went back into walking path for Epcot. It moved quickly and we were on skyliner in about 25 mins.

Mon. was AK and MK (I'll do a report on that a lil later.) Todays Epcot and Thursday is MK.

Takeaways so far;

weather- so much colder and windier than I expected or wanted, but it's getting better lol.

CBR: We stayed before and said we wouldn't be back, but with PO c)osed andctye skyliner, we caved lol. It's been ok, CMs very nice, skyliner acceess great, but reception is rough and honestly we're getting sick of all thecwalking and again how spread out it is.

Parks: Busy, but seem more manageable than whe, we were here during fall break in Oct. I think partly due to it not being so crazy hot, partly because transportation has been so much better here as opposed to AKL (getting in parks 45 mins prior as opposed to 20 makes a huge difference,) and the extended hrs have been helpful.

SD and eating in lines: SD - ehh, we feel like it was better in Oct...more ppl. have not been stopping on their marks behind us this trip. Eating in lines - honestly no different than Oct., except that every once in a while you'll see a cm say something to someone about it (happened twice that I've seen so far, both were yesterday and neither time did it have any effect.) One time a lady went to ask the cm at the front of STours where the line startes. She had a frozen lemonade thing in her hand (wasn't opened though - no idea if it was full/empty etc.) The cm durected her to the end, but not before telling her that she couldn't eat in line. The lady just kinda looked at her and said I just asked where the end of the line was and walked off...not sure what happened from there. The other time was at mmrr...a family was eating ice cream and a cm said something, the dad got out of line and went a spoke to the cm...not sure what was said, it didn't seem rude etc, but then the family went back to eating...just as many others were around them. I know I'll get flamed on here for saying it, but I don't think there should be an issue with eating in the outside cues. You're already sd - honestly much more than most who are sitting on the side somewhere and I do feel that it's kinda unreasonable to think ppl. and kids can't eat/drink anything while walkinf around winding outdoor cues for 30-60 mins. and then take more time out of their day to go find a place to sit each time they want to snack/eat. It is what it is and I know many on hear think those who do are the devil, but just to give the experience of what I saw...I don’t think I saw 1 line yesterday (other than first thing in the am beforw park was opened) where there weren't ppl eating and drinking in outdoor lines. I never saw it once we were indoors but saw it constantly outdoors. At the tot lines ppl. were straight walking into the line past 2 cms with masks totally off and bowls of ice cream in their hands...nothing was said. I'm on the lower mid end in terms of Covid consciousness- wear a mask every day for work and always mask when I'm out and about, don't feel comfortable with super tight spaces, but not hugely concerned. Honestly I'm not sure how someone whos more covid conscious would hand)e Disney right now as it's just not super distanced anywhere eyc.

I'll be back to report more later..any specific questions I'm happy to answer.
Thanks for the update. We’re heading to DHS on Sunday so good to hear about a recent experience with Spring Break crowds. When did your BG get called?
 
It appears if you had Park hoppers BEFORE they hit capacity, you are ok. If you are trying to ADD park hoppers now that they have reached capacity, they are not allowing you to do it. So you can park hop if you had the park hoppers before it hit capacity. No problem there. It's adding the park hoppers to your tickets when they are at capacity that they are not allowing.
They are trying to close the Epcot loophole, where Epcot is the last to sell out so people who have no intention of spending time at Epcot book every day there, tap in, and go to MK or HS and cause overcrowding. That will still happen to some degree, but it would happen a lot more if hoppers can be added once parks are full.

I'm so confused. If there is park availability for the day after your trip why can't you add that and stay an extra day?? THAT is the one that makes NO sense to me. Weird
It makes sense, actually, because Disney does not sell an option to add a specific day to a multi-day ticket. You can upgrade a 3 day to a 4 day but you are not adding a day so much as changing you ticket with different terms and usage windows. A 3 day ticket has a 5 day window. A 4 day ticket has a 7 day window. To sell a 4 day ticket, they would need 4 days with park pass reservations in a 7-day window in order for the contract to not be illusory (invalid) which isn’t possible next week.

You could always buy a 1day ticket for the extra day!that does have park passes, but that would not be very cost effective.
 
They are trying to close the Epcot loophole, where Epcot is the last to sell out so people who have no intention of spending time at Epcot book every day there, tap in, and go to MK or HS and cause overcrowding. That will still happen to some degree, but it would happen a lot more if hoppers can be added once parks are full.
Good point! I hadn't thought about that.
 
They are trying to close the Epcot loophole, where Epcot is the last to sell out so people who have no intention of spending time at Epcot book every day there, tap in, and go to MK or HS and cause overcrowding. That will still happen to some degree, but it would happen a lot more if hoppers can be added once parks are full.

That would be so stupid to do....Not only are you taking a spot from someone who actually may want to be at Epcot, but you can't even go to the second park until 2pm anyway so if you're just tapping in at Epcot and leaving you're wasting over 1/2 a day you could be doing something somewhere else. I just don't get the point....
 
These reports have helped so much! I thought I’d share our day for those still planning.

Tuesday, March 9- MK

We left our room at VGF at 8 and were on the monorail to MK by 8:09. Park had recently opened when we arrived, and we were quickly through the tapstiles. We headed straight to 7DMT and were in line by 8:21. It took a few minutes for the line to move, but once it started we just kept moving. We rode mine train and then went to Peter Pan for a quick 5 min wait. After that, we walked on to small world. Quick rapunzel restroom break/snack break then right on haunted mansion. We made our way to BTMRR and got in line at 9:45, off the ride at 10:05. That’s about when the short lines ended. We went to POTC next, and it took about an hour total for wait time and ride time.

*One interesting thing we noticed is that on boats (small world, splash, potc) they are only seating 1 or maybe 2 small parties per boat, very spaced out. But on the coasters like mine train and btmrr they fill the cars.

After potc we sat at a table outside Casey’s to wait for friends. My daughter just finished a volleyball tournament here in Orlando, and was meeting teammates.

They got in line for Space mtn at noon with a posted 75 min wait, but were off the ride at 12:45. Next, we walked back to btmrr for a 20 min wait to ride. We ordered pecos bill while in line at big thunder, and the food was ready when we got there. Finding a table was tough....but we found one outside.

The girls really wanted to ride splash mountain next. It has been down all morning, but was running with a posted wait time of 105 min. We got in line at 2:05 and I took a picture of our ride photo at 3:53. Again....only seating 1 party per boat. The line was so long, the girls went and rode btmrr and came back to us still outside in line.

We got ice cream next and sat by country bears to eat, and watched a couple cavalcades go by. Then we went to haunted mansion for a short wait of maybe 15 min?? Next was small world with close to a 45 min wait. We got off exactly at 6:10 and booked it to skipper canteen for our ADR. First time eating there- yummy and very quick!! We were done by 7:00 and headed back to space mountain. The girls rode twice with 15-20 min waits each time. We took pictures by the castle lit up at 7:50 pm, then said goodbye and walked the sad walk back down Main Street. It was a very quick wait for the monorail, and we were back in our room at vgf by 8:25.

a FUN but long 12 hour day!! More crowded than expected, but we still did a lot. Happy to answer any questions :)
 
That would be so stupid to do....Not only are you taking a spot from someone who actually may want to be at Epcot, but you can't even go to the second park until 2pm anyway so if you're just tapping in at Epcot and leaving you're wasting over 1/2 a day you could be doing something somewhere else. I just don't get the point....

Because it is the only way to get a different park. Go or do not go to EPCOT (except to tap in) so you can ACTUALLY go to a park. It is a simple choice if you want to go bad enough.
 
That would be so stupid to do....Not only are you taking a spot from someone who actually may want to be at Epcot, but you can't even go to the second park until 2pm anyway so if you're just tapping in at Epcot and leaving you're wasting over 1/2 a day you could be doing something somewhere else. I just don't get the point....
The point is finding a way into DHS. If someone plans a last minute trip and DHS isn’t available, hopping there after 2 is the only way in.
 
Because it is the only way to get a different park. Go or do not go to EPCOT (except to tap in) so you can ACTUALLY go to a park. It is a simple choice if you want to go bad enough.
So the heck with anybody who may actually want to go to Epcot at all, as long as you get to do what YOU want to do it doesn't matter....How selfish can people be?

The point is finding a way into DHS. If someone plans a last minute trip and DHS isn’t available, hopping there after 2 is the only way in.

That would be why you see park availability before "planning a trip", in fact if you just show up with 0 plans I would suggest that really means you didn't plan at all. There's 0 reason anyone should accept people taking park reservations they aren't even going to use just to "reserve" the ability to PH to their desired park later.

I mean come on....I can't be the only one that finds that to just be a total ****** move...
 
So the heck with anybody who may actually want to go to Epcot at all, as long as you get to do what YOU want to do it doesn't matter....How selfish can people be?

That is one flawed argument. A person pays for a Park Hopper ticket with intention to park hop. It does not matter how long they visit the first park because if they are leaving regardless.

1 Day Ticket to EPCOT (all day) = 1 Day PH Ticket to EPCOT (leave at 2p) then Choice = 1 Day PH Ticket to EPCOT (tap in) then Choice

That is not effecting anyone else.
 
So the heck with anybody who may actually want to go to Epcot at all, as long as you get to do what YOU want to do it doesn't matter....How selfish can people be?



That would be why you see park availability before "planning a trip", in fact if you just show up with 0 plans I would suggest that really means you didn't plan at all. There's 0 reason anyone should accept people taking park reservations they aren't even going to use just to "reserve" the ability to PH to their desired park later.

I mean come on....I can't be the only one that finds that to just be a total ****** move...
I wasn’t really arguing for or against it, just explaining why someone would do it. But I guess if you’re paying for a park hopper I don’t really see the issue with it? Anyways it’s a moot point because it sounds like Disney isn’t allowing it.
 
That is one flawed argument. A person pays for a Park Hopper ticket with intention to park hop. It does not matter how long they visit the first park because if they are leaving regardless.

1 Day Ticket to EPCOT (all day) = 1 Day PH Ticket to EPCOT (leave at 2p) then Choice = 1 Day PH Ticket to EPCOT (tap in) then Choice

That is not effecting anyone else.

But that's not what we are talking about.....

We are specifically talking about people who have 0 interest into actually going to Epcot AT ALL....So yes....They are in effect taking a spot from someone who DOES want to go to Epcot.

That's like saying buying a ticket to a sold out concert to just buy a poster and t-shirt and leaving doesn't effect anyone. Of course it does....You took a spot from someone who actually wanted to be there.
 
I'm here now! I've been here since Monday and leave Thursday. Been staying at the Yacht Club where I was given a club level water view room.

Too bad the club level lounge isn't open.

But anyway, Spice Road Table is a hidden gem. Food and service was fabulous. I ate too much at Ale and Compass tonight. The bacon jam with the Parker Rolls wasn't a hit for me. I've been to Epcot briefly and Hollywood Studios. It felt crowded but I only waited 60 minutes tops for anything.
This restaurant is wait list only right? How was your process eating there?
 
Friendly reminder that this thread is to talk about here now, just back. There is a park hopping sticky to discuss park hopping in more depth. If you have a recent experience in park hopping, you are welcome to share your experience here. Remember no arguing, and stick to DIS guidelines.
 














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