Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[wdwoutsider]

Of course disney knows which hotels will be closed. They are not saying because they don't want to offer refunds yet. They easily could automatically submit refunds if they wanted. They are keeping your cash to save themselves money. Really getting uncool of them

I don't know how anyone could consider going in July , full price for a quarter of the experience (at most). You should really think about the logistical challenges on everything in Disney wearing a mask and public transportation in super hot summer and humidity , go when it's more normal and can actually enjoy it and have fun. It's not gonna be the same, or even close. If your a local then sure go have a blast but don't pull full price in hotels for this if you have to travel.

The stock is up only because chapeck keeps promising they will make money on day one of park operations. Huge gamble for him if that doesn't happen but the market wants to hear that. They are just kicking the ball down the road saying everything the investors want to hear, he has ALOT to deliver on. I don't think they can deliver and they are burning cash much faster then they will admit (to temporarily save stock price) Q2 earnings call is when the picture they have been painting could be exposed for not reality. Even Q3 chapeck has promised profits gonna be hard to deliver on that with more staff needed per guest and alot of extra expenses.

 

[MrsBooch]

I wonder if they'll use the next month and a half to get ahead on (well, caught up on, I guess) some construction, or maybe finish painting the castle before MK reopens.

yes please

 

[rteetz]

The stock is up only because chapeck keeps promising they will make money on day one of park operations. Huge gamble for him if that doesn't happen but the market wants to hear that. They are just kicking the ball down the road saying everything the investors want to hear, he has ALOT to deliver on. I don't think they can deliver and they are burning cash much faster then they will admit (to temporarily save stock price) Q2 earnings call is when the picture they have been painting could be exposed for not reality. Even Q3 chapeck has promised profits gonna be hard to deliver on that with more staff needed per guest and alot of extra expenses.

He didn’t say they will make money on day one. I don’t think anyone expects them too. He said they want to be able to cover costs.

 

[TexasChick123]

DVC rooms are booking quickly for end of July/early August. So much for the “I dont think there will be much demand”. There was a 6 hour line to shop at World of Disney this morning, and thats just locals.

DVC is different due to point expirations. A lot of those may be people that has reservations in june/early july with expiring points. Hard to just based on DVC due too the built in demand

I agree with your reasoning @Krandor.

There will be one more added to the pool soon, ours. It's only fitting that our last trip was to start the first day they closed and this replacement trip was scheduled to end the first day they're open. We could go, but nope. I'm not a resort only guest, not for the money it costs to stay cash at DVC.

I agree. I won’t even use my points for a resort only stay. It isn’t worth it to me. I was already on the fence because of the mask requirement which concerned me with the heat. Knowing the parks won’t be open during our dates just solidified it for me that I needed to cancel.

 

[anthony2k7]

I imagine it'll be eye opening for them to see the cancellations start rolling in. The majority of comments I see online in other large FB groups, from people I know etc... are:

No fireworks, no parades, no characters = I'm not going.

And of course, masks required = I'm not going.

And still pay the old prices!!

I dont get why anyone would want to go right now. Plus what we know now is only part of the story. What does mainstreet look like when every shop has limited number of guests/virtual queues. How do shows work? How does CS/TS work in the parks? How does queuing to enter the parks work? How does that mid afternoon daily thunderstorm work? Oh and how does transportation work?

Not one of those is likely to be a good experience.

 

[JacknSally]

I would assume their priority is getting cast back, trained and the park ready for a very different style of experience.

Well yes, I don't doubt that one bit. I just thought maybe they could do both. The people painting the castle aren't likely also the ones who need to be trained on the new attractions or F&B ops, I'm assuming.

 

[rteetz]

Well yes, I don't doubt that one bit. I just thought maybe they could do both. The people painting the castle aren't likely also the ones who need to be trained on the new attractions or F&B ops, I'm assuming.

Of course but Disney will have to pay them. It will be interesting to see what they d with construction.

 

[TakesFaithTrust&PixieDust]

Doesnt the idea of a relaxation zone kinda send the wrong message? What are they going to do? Have little areas marked off 6’ apart and say “ good to go, take it off “

I assume you find areas in the park itself away from people if that was the case

I do understand why they wanna do it though

I think it’s more to reassure guests that instead of hiding in the bathrooms to catch your breath there will be designated areas. They realize this isn’t going to be an easy transition for many.

 

[LSUmiss]

I'd recommend the Swan if it is available. It's a nicer hotel, its quieter and the rooms are better.

Thanks! I agree. We stayed Swan in Oct. I said Dolphin b/c it was cheaper & if we can’t get our planned trip, I was going to go as cheap as possible & rebook our current trip for Nov.

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

I think it’s more to reassure guests that instead of hiding in the bathrooms to catch your breath there will be designated areas. They realize this isn’t going to be an easy transition for many.

For me the bathroom is the most worrying place in the park lol I think I deff want my mask on in there. Unless they limit people in it

 

[DGsAtBLT]

And still pay the old prices!!

I dont get why anyone would want to go right now. Plus what we know now is only party of the story. What does mainstreet look like when every shop has limited number of guests/virtual queues. How do shows work? How does CS/TS work in the parks? How does queuing to enter the parks work? How does that mid afternoon daily thunderstorm work? Oh and how does transportation work?

Not one of those is likely to be a good experience.

I get it from the people in the don’t care about details just want a change of scenery camp. The ones who are happy to just check into their resort and let whatever happens happen.

I don’t get those who are expecting anything resembling what they initially planned for, who just want their WDW summer vacation. I think the mask thing alone is going to catch a lot of people by surprise even if they think they are willing to do it.

But they certainty can’t say nobody warned them.

 

[tinkerhon]

DS was a mess, I just posted a short trip report on the thread, trying again tomorrow. Guys if you are seriously thinking of coming while the masks are mandatory, no joke, start practicing at home, we are having a typical Summer week here, where it's 95 degrees at 100% humidity and then it storms, not fun with a mask.

not fun here in NYC , where it's 57, (with a mask "real- feel" of
125! I can't imagine fla right now !

Not to drift off topic, but always appreciate your knowledge, Yullin3, so thanks for that ! Any news on the travel restrictions? So much is up in air - got lucky with our 7/14 arrival date, (7/16 is our booked epcot/via napoli day)
But still not sure if we can fly in from NYC !

 

[JacknSally]

Thanks! I agree. We stayed Swan in Oct. I said Dolphin b/c it was cheaper & if we can’t get our planned trip, I was going to go as cheap as possible & rebook our current trip for Nov.

Dolphin is one of our favorite resorts! We actually prefer it to Swan. The new lobby is gorgeous!

 

[anthony2k7]

DVC rooms are booking quickly for end of July/early August. So much for the “I dont think there will be much demand”. There was a 6 hour line to shop at World of Disney this morning, and thats just locals.

Yeah but how many people did they actually get through the doors all day, and how many of those spent actual dollars in there?

Most of those today were likely bloggers, would they have bought merch? Most probably not.

Virtual queues for shops is messy when a significant amount of those in the queue probably just want to browse.

 

[TakesFaithTrust&PixieDust]

And still pay the old prices!!

I dont get why anyone would want to go right now. Plus what we know now is only part of the story. What does mainstreet look like when every shop has limited number of guests/virtual queues. How do shows work? How does CS/TS work in the parks? How does queuing to enter the parks work? How does that mid afternoon daily thunderstorm work? Oh and how does transportation work?

Not one of those is likely to be a good experience.

Some people see the glass half empty while others see it half full. Maybe some are more appreciative of things now than before. Disney is Disney and many love the brand even through these difficult times and are happy to see progress, any progress, being made

 

[SoonersLUVmickey]

All my fast passes disappeared for July

 

[Krandor]

All my fast passes disappeared for July

Which dates?

 

[Have3Kids&aHusband]

Of course disney knows which hotels will be closed. They are not saying because they don't want to offer refunds yet. They easily could automatically submit refunds if they wanted. They are keeping your cash to save themselves money. Really getting uncool of them

I don't know how anyone could consider going in July , full price for a quarter of the experience (at most). You should really think about the logistical challenges on everything in Disney wearing a mask and public transportation in super hot summer and humidity , go when it's more normal and can actually enjoy it and have fun. It's not gonna be the same, or even close. If your a local then sure go have a blast but don't pull full price in hotels for this if you have to travel.

The stock is up only because chapeck keeps promising they will make money on day one of park operations. Huge gamble for him if that doesn't happen but the market wants to hear that. They are just kicking the ball down the road saying everything the investors want to hear, he has ALOT to deliver on. I don't think they can deliver and they are burning cash much faster then they will admit (to temporarily save stock price) Q2 earnings call is when the picture they have been painting could be exposed for not reality. Even Q3 chapeck has promised profits gonna be hard to deliver on that with more staff needed per guest and alot of extra expenses.

I think it depends on your family. We're going in July with the restrictions and knowing it will be a different experience. My husband and I both lost our moms 6 months a part. Mine in the fall and my husband's mom passed away from COVID-19 at the beginning of April. Our children have had their whole life canceled this spring and not sure if they'll even be able to do their sports camps this summer. They already said they want to go knowing it will be different. For us it is something to look forward to and don't see it as a negative at all. Finally something not canceled or being taken away from us.

 

[yulilin3]

not fun here in NYC , where it's 57, (with a mask "real- feel" of
125! I can't imagine fla right now !

Not to drift off topic, but always appreciate your knowledge, Yullin3, so thanks for that ! Any news on the travel restrictions? So much is up in air - got lucky with our 7/14 arrival date, (7/16 is our booked epcot/via napoli day)
But still not sure if we can fly in from NYC !

no news on that front https://www.visitflorida.com/en-us/current-travel-safety-information.html

 

[tinkerhon]

Ok, so as I try to recoup as much of the thousands that I have invested in this (July 14th) trip so far, should be safe cancelling Dessert Party (7/20) correct ?
no chance of that happening -
Do y'all feel comfortable doing it online, or should I call ?
As soon as the millennium falcon stops flying around my screen ! (They seem to have ppl in an online waiting queue for MDE, I can get in !

Finally able to access MDE - (at least they used a different character (millennium ) and I don't have to see headless olaf -
So, those was past experience - ok to cancel dessert party online? Or wait on hold for half day ?