Congress concerned over MagicBand security issues..

[Disney_Princess83]

We learn by questioning. When we cease to question, we cease to learn. I have no reason to trust any corporation that wants my dollars - regardless of the happiness their services have provided me in the past, or may in the future. It is somewhat troublesome to me that some choose to do so. Most of us don't have any real idea of what its capabilities are, yet so many seem to blindly trusting in it. I am not old-fashioned, and I welcome technology. I also understand that it can be, and often is, used for devious purposes. I appologize in advance for saying so, but I do not think The Walt Disney Corporation is above this to a degree.

Well said!

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Yes, but I'll also point out that among those "future" features, it will one day "allow guests to go cash- and credit card-free and order food in advance" - featured already announced.

Honestly, I read that for now to mean the already-anounced features (go cash- and credit card-free, etc.), combined with the use of the rose in BOG to find you at your table, as an example. With the potential of the band taking on that - and maybe more - features over time.

 

[doconeill]

Isn't that already in place? I thought that the rose that you get at BOG lunch somehow transmits where you are sitting, so the server knows where to bring your food.

I have not seen it yet, but it sounds like a separate system tied to an order number.

13 and under, I believe, from Iger's response.

I believe that's the goverment's standard age for marketing to minors. Then there are other restrictions about marketing certain items like alcohol and tobacco products to those not old enough to purchase said items.

 

[SaraJayne]

13 and under, I believe, from Iger's response.

Thanks. So any "child" over 13 is fair game. That doesn't sit well with me.

 

[Granny square]

Thanks. So any "child" over 13 is fair game. That doesn't sit well with me.

What do you think the devious disney empire is going to target the 14 year old for? To find out they like Harry potter better than avatar? To sell them a pizza? Or to tell them how to hook up with the young Brazilian girls...

Lol, this thread cracks me up!

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Thanks. So any "child" over 13 is fair game. That doesn't sit well with me.

I hear ya' -- to me, it depends what they mean by market to. And I must admit that with Disney products, I'm not personally concerned with that. But...

You would think they would need a direct email address or cell number for the child in order to market directly to them. And that is info you would have to provide to Disney as part of the MagicBand-associated profile for the child. Iger's response explicitly states that they will NOT require this info. I just wouldn't provide this. The only contact info they'll have is mine and my husband's.

 

[doconeill]

I hear ya' -- to me, it depends what they mean by market to. And I must admit that with Disney products, I'm not personally concerned with that. But...

You would think they would need a direct email address or cell number for the child in order to market directly to them. And that is info you would have to provide to Disney as part of the MagicBand-associated profile for the child. Iger's response explicitly states that they will NOT require this info. I just wouldn't provide this. The only contact info they'll have is mine and my husband's.

Not only would they need that info, but the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act explictly states that for children under 13 they need verifiable parental consent to collect any personal information about a child. So the child alone couldn't just give that info, and it probably would be enough just for the parent to provide it, but would need to explicitly consent to doing so, typically by being presented with an explanation as to what that information is used for, etc...

 

[Superspectral]

Did I say Disney did? No, I said I found his tone off-putting and I feel that he didn't answer the questions posed. I think that it eliminates confusion when you restate the question asked and then answer that question specifically, instead of essentially rewording your publicly available privacy policy again and again and regurgitating that in response.

I find it high-larious that Disney is talking about how "transparent" this whole new program is for its guests, and yet the Disboards, full of Disney "experts" and repeat guests, have nothing but questions about it, and debate endlessly about what they really mean. If Disney was really as transparent as it claims to be, I don't think all these questions would exist.

 

[nooneshome]

It amazes me how progressives like Markey are so concerned about Disney collecting data all the while Obamacare and now these new potential gun laws will be collecting and amassing more data on you then Disney ever will. You better be more worried about the tens of thousand of new IRS agents and your doctor.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Not only would they need that info, but the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act explictly states that for children under 13 they need verifiable parental consent to collect any personal information about a child. So the child alone couldn't just give that info, and it probably would be enough just for the parent to provide it, but would need to explicitly consent to doing so, typically by being presented with an explanation as to what that information is used for, etc...

Right. I'd suspect that consent would be in the fine print on Disney's site when you add contact information for your child. Somehow I have a feeling they'd cover themselves legally that way... ...

 

[doconeill]

Right. I'd suspect that consent would be in the fine print on Disney's site when you add contact information for your child. Somehow I have a feeling they'd cover themselves legally that way... ...

"Verifiable" is the key. Typically that means the box that pops up and says you must agree to this to continue...you know, the one you never actually read and just click, "yes"...

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

"Verifiable" is the key. Typically that means the box that pops up and says you must agree to this to continue...you know, the one you never actually read and just click, "yes"...

Yup! That's exactly what I'd expect! Buyer beware!

 

[SaraJayne]

I hear ya' -- to me, it depends what they mean by market to. And I must admit that with Disney products, I'm not personally concerned with that. But...

You would think they would need a direct email address or cell number for the child in order to market directly to them. And that is info you would have to provide to Disney as part of the MagicBand-associated profile for the child. Iger's response explicitly states that they will NOT require this info. I just wouldn't provide this. The only contact info they'll have is mine and my husband's.

Ok, thanks. Sounds like checking in is going to take even longer with all the questions they will have to ask. lol

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Ok, thanks. Sounds like checking in is going to take even longer with all the questions they will have to ask. lol

May be part of why they're pushing the online check-in as far as 60 days out!

 

[mesaboy2]

Hmm...while scanning Deadline for bits of news for one of my other web sites, I came across this very interesting quote attributed to Iger last week:

Now, this is VERY interesting, because we know by the specs of the band that they are not GPS, and according to the attachments in Iger's letter, it is not GPS based. But it seems that he is in fact thinking in that direction - and I wonder if THAT had a lot to do with what transpired.

I think you're giving way too much credit to a random member of the press. It is very likely the reporter is confusing GPS and RFID technologies or simply misunderstood Iger. The system mentioned is precisely like that used in BOG to determine your location, but with RFID. I see no reason why the bracelet could not replace the rose hockey puck for guests who opt for MM+.

 

[doconeill]

I think you're giving way too much credit to a random member of the press. It is very likely the reporter is confusing GPS and RFID technologies or simply misunderstood Iger. The system mentioned is precisely like that used in BOG to determine your location, but with RFID. I see no reason why the bracelet could not replace the rose hockey puck for guests who opt for MM+.

Of I could just as easily believe Iger _did_ say GPS, but may not have meant it. Either way, the reporter of Iger would need to correct.

 

[mesaboy2]

Of I could just as easily believe Iger _did_ say GPS, but may not have meant it. Either way, the reporter of Iger would need to correct.

That's possible too.

 

[larryz]

Hmm...while scanning Deadline for bits of news for one of my other web sites, I came across this very interesting quote attributed to Iger last week:

"...we know everything..."

Now, this is VERY interesting, because we know by the specs of the band that they are not GPS, and according to the attachments in Iger's letter, it is not GPS based. But it seems that he is in fact thinking in that direction - and I wonder if THAT had a lot to do with what transpired.

Easy enough to associate your Magicband and your rose-shaped beeper...which very likely has a GPS chip in it...

 

[mesaboy2]

Easy enough to associate your Magicband and your rose-shaped beeper...which very likely has a GPS chip in it...

I can usually detect your humor, but I'm not sure if you're serious here.

If you are actually serious, I can't imagine why they would put any GPS capability in the pucks.

 

[larryz]

I can usually detect your humor, but I'm not sure if you're serious here.

If you are actually serious, I can't imagine why they would put any GPS capability in the pucks.

Why, so they'll know where you're sitting, of course...