X-Pass attraction list

[doconeill]

As I read the article, I couldn't help but think about this and the fastpass they set up for Finding Nemo: The Musical (and the work being done in the Spaceship Earth queue). I was thinking that they were doing this not so much for the benefit of having fastpass on those attractions now, but rather to get the infrastructure in place for dual lines that they will need once xPass starts. If they do things like this gradually, it keeps them from having to update queue structure for 20 attractions all at once. Makes sense, logistically.

That's what I was thinking about the Nemo FPs as well...testing various things as to how to handle it, etc.

Like one of the more recent centralized FP distributions - not necessarily a test of centralized FP distribution itself, but rather as a test for adding FP or something similar (i.e. xPASS) to the attractions that didn't already handle it, and that was a convenient location to distribute them from.

 

[mesaboy2]

They are definitely adding something to the queue, and likely a second queue line - but it seems to be that the idea of them adding Fastpass is based on the queue change as opposed to any more direct evidence. It could just be an xPASS exclusive.

What's the worst wait time to get on to the clamshells in recent history (say, more than 6 months after it re-opened)?

The worst I've seen on more than a half-dozen rides is maybe 25-30 minutes.

 

[MommyPoppins]

They are definitely adding something to the queue, and likely a second queue line - but it seems to be that the idea of them adding Fastpass is based on the queue change as opposed to any more direct evidence. It could just be an xPASS exclusive.

What's the worst wait time to get on to the clamshells in recent history (say, more than 6 months after it re-opened)?

I know I've seen pictures of the line all the way outside kinda close to soarin(but that was Spring Break a few years back).

We travel during non-peak times and haven't ever waiting in a line, ever. Even when they first opened. lol.

 

[kaligal]

This is ridiculous.

Now we have to have ride appointments and food appointments and show appointments!

Not only is this turning into more work than fun, how are we supposed to remember all this crap? I have to take all the times with me to the parks every day?

"No, kids, sorry, we can't stop and look at ducks - it's our apppointed time for JIYI. Plus, if we don't get to JIYI right now, we'll miss our FP time for Soarin. We have to be in Mexico at exatcly 12:15 to eat!! No ducks!"

Seriously?

Experience Nazis.

 

[Reddog1134]

This is ridiculous.

Now we have to have ride appointments and food appointments and show appointments!

Not only is this turning into more work than fun, how are we supposed to remember all this crap? I have to take all the times with me to the parks every day?

"No, kids, sorry, we can't stop and look at ducks - it's our apppointed time for JIYI. Plus, if we don't get to JIYI right now, we'll miss our FP time for Soarin. We have to be in Mexico at exatcly 12:15 to eat!! No ducks!"

Seriously?

Experience Nazis.

It WILL be optional. You can still tour the same way you do now.

 

[RetroCOTfan]

This is ridiculous.

Now we have to have ride appointments and food appointments and show appointments!

Not only is this turning into more work than fun, how are we supposed to remember all this crap? I have to take all the times with me to the parks every day?

"No, kids, sorry, we can't stop and look at ducks - it's our apppointed time for JIYI. Plus, if we don't get to JIYI right now, we'll miss our FP time for Soarin. We have to be in Mexico at exatcly 12:15 to eat!! No ducks!"

Seriously?

Experience Nazis.

Couldn't you just choose not to use the system? Or, like fastpass now, only use it for the things you want?

If they do carefully monitor/limit the number of xpasses & fastpasses available, shouldn't it have a fairly small (if even noticeable) effect on wait times?

 

[baileybrad]

I hate fasspass (and the pay-for-pass at Universal too) and I will not like this at all. And, yes, I've had fastpass explained to me numerous times, and I've used it when we are there, doesn't mean I like it.

Said it before, I'll say it again, Disney was far, far, far more fun when I could just walk into Epcot, Studios or wherever and make a sameday reservervation, decide what rides to go on and wait, patiently, like everyone else for my turn. And, yes, never missed a ride, or a show, or a parade or a sameday meal reservation and had an outstanding time of it. Didn't need no ADRs, no fastpass, no Xpass or whatever and Disney got my $$ just the same (I'm okay with that, I never expect to get out of Disney on the cheap).
Now, they get fewer of my dollars per visit because I don't have ADRs and we end up eating off property.

I plan my work day, having to do all this planning to enjoy Disney makes it seem like work, which is what I'm suppossed to be gettting away from!

Dolby1000

I agree with the gist of your post. We do use the FP system at times but we only use it to our advantage. Vacation is suppose to be somewhat relaxing. Trips to Disney are not typical vacations for us in that we do rise early in the morning. We use to get serious attraction bang for the buck back in the day when Disney had both sides of a ride going full blow at opening. You could do most of the big hitters before the late risers got near the place. The lines didn't really become unmanageable until after 11:00 or so. You come back later in the day after a nice break and pick up most attractions with a very short wait.

We, too, use to love making a 'priority seating' request and being able to get a table. The Dining Plans have basically driven us to eat most all of our meals off-property. We do get better prices and more choices so that is really a plus for us.

This new system is a way for Disney to remove more cash from their 'guests'. I understand that they are a free-market company (we still own quite a bit of stock in the place, man was it great before the ABC days). We are DVC members for 12 years (thankfully with Hilton Head as our home resort) and enjoy the amenities that those resorts provide.

That being said, I really wonder how Walt Disney would react to some of the things that have become common place with a Disney vacation. Limiting the accessability to day trippers or people who stay off-site is wrong to me because people pay basically the same amount of money to get into a park. The EE and Late Evening perk seems like more than enough. I understand that we have to wait to see how this plays out but, again, very little that Disney does anymore enhances most folks' visits.

Saying much of anything negative about all things Disney on these boards is a sin but the direction that they continue to move just seems to make a visit there more and more of a planning hassle.

 

[kaligal]

Couldn't you just choose not to use the system? Or, like fastpass now, only use it for the things you want?

If they do carefully monitor/limit the number of xpasses & fastpasses available, shouldn't it have a fairly small (if even noticeable) effect on wait times?

Sure, if there is no change to the wait times, then I could ignore it. Otherwise, I have to live and die by Experience Appointments or stand in longer lines.

And if there is no change to the wait times, we don't need it for JIYI...or anything else, really.

From what I've heard so far, it is just going to put a big damper on a Disney vacation for everyone except people who want to have appointments for everything they do...and kids who like keeping appointments, which - other than the DIS kids - won't be many.

The food was bad enough. This is just ridiculous.

 

[disneydad1]

bad enough that you have to figure out what you'll be in the mood to eat 6 months in advance - now you have to figure out what you'll be in the mood to ride......hate it.......

 

[umichigan10]

Honestly I know one of the biggest jabs against the current fp system is it's "unfair" and that some newbies are unaware of it's existence.

So having to book what rides you're going to do six months in advance online and pay an exuberant amount of money is going to help matters? Not very likely my friends.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

Thanks for the update! This seems to be a little more accurate than some of the previous accounts I've heard, especially regarding the date as to when XPass would become available.

I think it would be ideal for XPass to debut when Fantasyland is completed, it should be fully tested and ready to go by then. I don't believe there will be two systems, Xpass will either replace Fastpass or be incorporated into Fastpass. I don't think there will be a fee to use XPass, I think we will have to pay for the bracelets which are optional, and there will be "features" of Xpass available at a premium to concierge level guests for priority viewing of parades and shows, sort of like the AKL safari dinners. I have to remain optimistic about Xpass until further information is available.

 

[WillAustin]

Honestly I know one of the biggest jabs against the current fp system is it's "unfair" and that some newbies are unaware of it's existence.

So having to book what rides you're going to do six months in advance online and pay an exuberant amount of money is going to help matters? Not very likely my friends.

Anyone who thinks any of this will move in a direction that would make the fairness police happy is mistaken.

 

[seashoreCM]

I think that a guest should not have access to both the existing Fastpass and the new Xpass at the same time using the same ticket card. This is accomplished by requiring the guest to swipe his ticket inside the park to receive the Xpass privileges. Doing that would deny access to Fastpass, at least for an hour or two for each Xpass reserved. Meanwhile, fetching a Fastpass should block the ability to retrieve Xpass reservations.

 

[kaligal]

Honestly I know one of the biggest jabs against the current fp system is it's "unfair" and that some newbies are unaware of it's existence.

So having to book what rides you're going to do six months in advance online and pay an exuberant amount of money is going to help matters? Not very likely my friends.

I don't mind paying for shorter lines.

I mind the reservations. I don't want to have to keep 12 appointments a day. That's crazy.

And are they going to start charging us for not showing up to ride stuff - like they are now charging if we don't show up to eat stuff?

Ugh.

 

[Reddog1134]

I don't mind paying for shorter lines.

I mind the reservations. I don't want to have to keep 12 appointments a day. That's crazy.

And are they going to start charging us for not showing up to ride stuff - like they are now charging if we don't show up to eat stuff?

Ugh.

If it IS a pay system then it sounds like it will be a single fee. They won't ding you for not showing up but you have, in essence, been charged for that "reservation".

 

[DisneyGirl421]

From an attractions CM standpoint, this is going to be a nightmare. The majority of the additional xPass attractions queue lines are not equipped to handle this, and I can almost 100% guaranty that Disney won't be updating those queues either. For example, Great Movie Ride's queue will totally not work for this. Plus, the extra cast that will need to be there will be a headache too.
Plus, shows do NOT need an xPass. Just come to the show about 15ish minutes before the time and you are FINE. I honestly don't get why they have shows on there.

 

[MK2010]

I was reading about XPass on another blog. I am a huge planner. I LOVE IT! For me it is part of the vacation, to think and dream all things Disney how could it get better than that. We did the regular Dining Plan and I loved making my ADRs. (I also liked that it was only 1 per day!) I read up and had FP down. Used TourGuideMike and had every step planned out. our vacation was fantastic!

However, I do not like that XPass will probably be only for onsite guests and at an additional fee. I don't want to book my rides months in advance either. (Like the one of the pp mentioned about the ducks). Granted, you don't have to use this system. That's what a stand-by line is for, but one of the magical things about Disney was free FP for everyone!

I agree, that in the end we will all have to take a wait and see attitude to see how Disney rolls this baby out and tweaks it, but I am watching with fear, not waiting with joy.

 

[doconeill]

And are they going to start charging us for not showing up to ride stuff - like they are now charging if we don't show up to eat stuff?

Bit of a difference though...not showing up for a ride doesn't really hurt Disney financially. If you've paid for xPASS, then it's your loss for not making use of it properly. The only way you are hurting anyone else is that you may have taken a slot away from someone else, but then they still have the option of Fastpass (maybe) or standby.

 

[mesaboy2]

From an attractions CM standpoint, this is going to be a nightmare. The majority of the additional xPass attractions queue lines are not equipped to handle this, and I can almost 100% guaranty that Disney won't be updating those queues either. For example, Great Movie Ride's queue will totally not work for this. Plus, the extra cast that will need to be there will be a headache too.
Plus, shows do NOT need an xPass. Just come to the show about 15ish minutes before the time and you are FINE. I honestly don't get why they have shows on there.

The queues are not equipped just yet, but some are closer to this capability than you might think. GMR's queue would be exceedingly easy to modify--just tweak the switchbacks in the big room into two queues--one for each vehicle in the loading area.

 

[GJF323]

What a relief they included the Muppets 3D "experience." Because with the expected movie bounce, I'm sure I'd hate to leave home without an advance reservation for that one.

Anyways, some of these would be a good idea. I want to be able to reserve the "priority exit from Illuminations" experience.