X-Pass attraction list

[KellyNY]

Oh, I didn't mean to imply you couldn't ride standby still, only limitation on how you can use xPASS. It may even limit what you can get a FP for (i.e. xPASS or FP, not both).

I could see the potential of xPASS replacing Fastpass long-term, but probably not for a while.

Got it! I also think they may replace FPs later, depending on how Xpass will actually be accepted by visitors and how willingly they will pay and what actually will happen with lines. I wonder however, will I having Xpass and already having pass for a ride still be able to get regular FP for the same ride or only SB line.

 

[Dizneefamily+4]

Thanks for the article - interesting. I'm NOT a fan. I understand how appealing this will be the uber-planners. We no longer even make ADRs and typically only do the QSDP just so that we don't have to plan our day around planned-ahead dining times. We'd rather eat when and where the mood strikes us. So we most certainly don't want to plan our day around which park we need to be in for our pre-planned riding experience. Ugh - no way!

 

[holcomb-mania]

Been away from the DIS for a while and this is the first I've seen of this garbage. First FP enforcement, now reserving spots for Wishes? So much for "discovering" the parks.

7-year DVC member here. We went to Orlando last summer and stayed in AKL for a few nights (pool time + 2 days in SW, ZERO WDW parks), then moved over to Portofino Bay at UO. I now PREFER UO to WDW, and I'm not pleased to say that. We did EVERYTHING we wanted to in the parks and spent tons of time at the pool.

Ultimately this doesn't mean much to us for the next few years as we're using our DVC points for a big CA trip next year. Who knows what they'll be doing when we get down there.

I guess I should head over to the UO boards and make sure FOTL is still available.

 

[conniehar90]

Is there any speculation as to who the Xpass is going to be available for? Just resort guests or those who pay extra - or anyone "in the know"?

Thanks!

 

[Reddog1134]

Is there any speculation as to who the Xpass is going to be available for? Just resort guests or those who pay extra - or anyone "in the know"?

Thanks!

It is ALL just speculation right now so you've pretty much answered your own question.

If you look at the comments in the linked article, the author says he'll be giving out that info in a future article.

 

[skier_pete]

Is there any speculation as to who the Xpass is going to be available for? Just resort guests or those who pay extra - or anyone "in the know"?

Thanks!

I posted the list on the "Rumors and News" board, before noticing this article. Sorry to repeat a post.

The rumor I've seen as to who it applies to is that it will be included in a Deluxe stay, and people staying at Moderate and Values will pay a fee. I suspect that is an incorrect rumor, and I would suppose that everyone will have to pay for it. (Because they won't give it for free to DVC people in my view and if they charge DVC, they will likely charge Deluxe.) I do expect that it will only be available for on-site guests, though. This is more a purpose of practicality (1) another perk driving people to be on-site and (2) they have to limit the # of people that can do it as they can't have 50 % of the people in the park reserving a spot for the parade. (I also wonder how it will handle no-shows, espeically for something like parades and fireworks.)

The other rumors I've heard is that it will be a length of stay fee similar to hoppers or WP&M. I won't mention a price since it would just be wild speculation as I have not heard any specific numbers mentioned.

 

[PetLoopers]

Disney just needs to get it over with. Setup one giant Omnimover of Wall-e type chairs that move through the parks. The guest inserts a credit card at the park entrance and the chair takes the guest on a predesigned path to and through all the rides. The chairs will take the guest to eateries at predesignated times at which point the guest will be able to order the same meal that all the other guests are eating and, based on the number of points the guest pre-bought, the guest might even be able to order dessert! Souvenirs are ordered prior to the start of your trip and shipped directly to your home at the end of your vacation, along with your pre-ordered photo package. Walt Disney World, Pre-order your Memories Today!

Oh, I'm not a fan of Xpass.

 

[raidermatt]

Still a lot of details missing, and as another poster mentioned, Jim's info is hit or miss (he also needs an editor).

But that said, I agree with others that it seems like overkill, even for the uber planners. I can see the benefit in being able to reserve parade and show spots, but planning out more than maybe 3 or 4 attractions in advance is going to be tough for the vast majority of guests.

As others said, perhaps they are adding more attractions to spread out the passes. But some of those attractions just don't need to be scheduled, and I can't say that I agree with "tricking" less knowlegable guests by offering them, just so they can spread the crowds out.

I also find the standby wait time increase estimates to be suspect. Unless they just aren't expecting many to utilize the system. But if that's the case, what's the point?

Bottom line, we still need more info before we can really judge. What I do know is they are spending a lot of money on this, and they are expecting to make it back and them some. So one way or the other we are going to be paying for this new system.

 

[mesaboy2]

When they swapped the IASW queue around, did they leave a provision for a second entrance queue?

Easy-peasy. The current single line winds from the current entrance up to right by the old exit, at which point it splits into two lines--one for each boat in the load area. It would take 10-12 feet of additional stanchions and chains to make the left line accessible to only the old exit area, or new xPass entrance.

I could easily see them incorporating a two-queue system at HM (left Standby through the new cemetery, right xPass skipping it), and PotC of course with its already existing pair of queues.

If you're a bit of a character hound like myself, the word "exclusive" may set off alarm bells in your head as it does mine. But again, it's JHM so there's hope.

 

[stargazertechie]

I also find the standby wait time increase estimates to be suspect. Unless they just aren't expecting many to utilize the system. But if that's the case, what's the point?

If they are decreasing the # of FPs available, I can see this having a negligible impact on standby times.

 

[Dolby1000]

I hate fasspass (and the pay-for-pass at Universal too) and I will not like this at all. And, yes, I've had fastpass explained to me numerous times, and I've used it when we are there, doesn't mean I like it.

Said it before, I'll say it again, Disney was far, far, far more fun when I could just walk into Epcot, Studios or wherever and make a sameday reservervation, decide what rides to go on and wait, patiently, like everyone else for my turn. And, yes, never missed a ride, or a show, or a parade or a sameday meal reservation and had an outstanding time of it. Didn't need no ADRs, no fastpass, no Xpass or whatever and Disney got my $$ just the same (I'm okay with that, I never expect to get out of Disney on the cheap).
Now, they get fewer of my dollars per visit because I don't have ADRs and we end up eating off property.

I plan my work day, having to do all this planning to enjoy Disney makes it seem like work, which is what I'm suppossed to be gettting away from!

Dolby1000

 

[POB14]

I hear that Jim Hill is "Hit or Miss" on a lot of his news but it's interesting to read any way.

Now THERE is the understatement of the year!

 

[Reddog1134]

Now THERE is the understatement of the year!

I know he has an article from 2008 talking about how the Monsters Inc Coaster is coming soon to DHS.

The funniest thing about that one is it's a bunch of paragraphs talking about the coaster and it ends with "Oh yeah, and MK might get a little Mermaid ride".

Way to back the wrong horse.

 

[RetroCOTfan]

This seems like something that will almost never be utilized on an individual level to its full extent. Even an uber-planner would be hard pressed to sign up for an xPass for EVERY attraction/show/whatever, and then stick to that schedule all day, every day. It would just take too much.

I don't think the "average" guest is going to use it too extensively, either. I can imagine people using it for E-tickets and for parades/fireworks, but I just can't see people using it for rides like Journey into Imagination.

And it also seems like something that, much like fastpass, can be ignored, meaning that a guest's free-floating, time-pressure-free experience can still happen.

As for me, I love to plan ahead and I know what parks I will be in on certain days. I would like the opportunity to reserve space for Wishes or IllumiNations. Am I willing to pay for that perk? Probably not. If I can still get a fastpass for free to the attractions I want, then I'm fine with just finding a place to stand for fireworks like I have for the last 25 years.

 

[stargazertechie]

I hate fasspass (and the pay-for-pass at Universal too) and I will not like this at all.

Said it before, I'll say it again, Disney was far, far, far more fun when I could just walk into Epcot, Studios or wherever and make a sameday reservervation, decide what rides to go on and wait, patiently, like everyone else for my turn. And, yes, never missed a ride, or a show, or a parade or a sameday meal reservation and had an outstanding time of it.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and what works for someone doesn't mean it works for everyone.


That being said, I LOVE fastpass. I love being able to grab a pass, go get lunch, grab a ride on something that is walk-on, and then come back at my return time and wait 5-10 minutes vs. waiting 90-120 minutes.

Disney gets what they want (my money- they don't make any when I'm standing in that everlasting queue at splash mountain) and I get what I want- shorter wait times.

 

[MommyPoppins]

I think the fact that the article lists rides like Journey into Imagination, Monster's Inc Laugh Floor, Captain EO, and Kim Possible as having x-pass speaks to the credibility of the article. 80% of the year you can walk into any of those attractions without a wait. Who in their right mind would actually PAY to schedule them?

 

[Reddog1134]

I think the fact that the article lists rides like Journey into Imagination, Monster's Inc Laugh Floor, Captain EO, and Kim Possible as having x-pass speaks to the credibility of the article. 80% of the year you can walk into any of those attractions without a wait. Who in their right mind would actually PAY to schedule them?

You would think so, right?

But they are currently adding Fastpass to Living Seas w/ Nemo. So who knows?

 

[RetroCOTfan]

You would think so, right?

But they are currently adding Fastpass to Living Seas w/ Nemo. So who knows?

As I read the article, I couldn't help but think about this and the fastpass they set up for Finding Nemo: The Musical (and the work being done in the Spaceship Earth queue). I was thinking that they were doing this not so much for the benefit of having fastpass on those attractions now, but rather to get the infrastructure in place for dual lines that they will need once xPass starts. If they do things like this gradually, it keeps them from having to update queue structure for 20 attractions all at once. Makes sense, logistically.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

Hmmm..interesting. It won't affect our magic. Thanks for posing the info.

 

[doconeill]

You would think so, right?

But they are currently adding Fastpass to Living Seas w/ Nemo. So who knows?

They are definitely adding something to the queue, and likely a second queue line - but it seems to be that the idea of them adding Fastpass is based on the queue change as opposed to any more direct evidence. It could just be an xPASS exclusive.

What's the worst wait time to get on to the clamshells in recent history (say, more than 6 months after it re-opened)?