We're All MAD here! SPAZZ hands, cupcakes, booze, and running...GSC Feb. 2015 PTR

[Twoboysnmygirl]

Shew! Now that THIS is over...

We had a fantastic Christmas, but I was also slammed with work, so much so that I had to wait to do my long run yesterday instead of Saturday. Things are finally slowing down and it's time for an update!

I got some new running gear for Christmas! Perfect timing!

and training is going really well! I ran 2 miles on Sunday followed by 9.5 on Monday as part of my back to back training. The running part was great, but it was SO cold that my hair froze and I don't think I will be running in 21 degrees anymore! Dallas joined me for the last 3 miles, that really helped break up the run into portions for me.

I am having a little tendonitis trouble in my left foot this morning, which is annoying since I have been so careful to stay uninjured. I have to run with a client tomorrow but I'll take the rest of this week slower if needed, luckily it's a low mileage week with just shorter runs.

Now some DISNEY news (although the running is about Disney, in my defense!)

We are 37 and 51 days out, respectively!!! 37 days out from our one day trip to MK while we are in Orlando for Playlist Live and 51 days out until my trip for Princess Half Marathon weekend!

I cannot believe how close it is already! In any case, I made our FP reservations without any issue on December 21st. I got everything that Tweedle and I wanted for PHM weekend!

As for our one day in MK, the "loophole" does work...if you have a Disney resort reservation, you can make FP's 60 days out from that trip on ANY day. So I was able to make our one day staying offsite FP's on something like day 49 or something instead of 30. That was helpful, but even right at midnight I was not able to get Anna & Elsa. I'm checking daily and hope that one will open up, the girls all want to meet them.

So here's what I got:

For our one MK day in early Feb. with my friend and the 3 girls, we got
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
12:10 PM - 1:10 PM
Space Mountain®
1:20 PM - 2:20 PM
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad®
2:20 PM - 3:20 PM

I'm working on switching BTMR out with A&E, but we'll see! We plan on being there at rope drop, so I made the FP's a little later as we plan to walk on a lot at opening.

Here are the PHM FP's. Nicole and I plan to do a lot of hopping but spread out our FP's to each park on different days, except AK because we will be there at rope drop.

DHS-Friday, Feb. 20

Toy Story Midway Mania!
10:30 AM - 11:30 AM
Star Tours® – The Adventures Continue
11:40 AM - 12:40 PM
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™
12:45 PM - 1:45 PM

Saturday, February 21, 2015 - Magic Kingdom® Park

Peter Pan's Flight®
9:40 AM - 10:40 AM
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
10:55 AM - 11:55 AM
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad®
11:55 AM - 12:55 PM


Sunday, February 22, 2015 - Epcot®

Spaceship Earth
4:35 PM - 5:35 PM
Soarin'®
5:45 PM - 6:45 PM
The Seas with Nemo & Friends®
6:50 PM - 7:50 PM


So now we continue to train and in 7 weeks we will be headed to Orlando!! (well, in 5 I will actually be there too!)

I'll have to work on taking some race costume photos to share! I will leave you with my favorite pic from Christmas! My girl, myself, and my mama!

 

[-Hope-]

You got a ToT FP?!?! Are you actually going to ride???

Also, looking at your Epcot choices makes me ask- does the system require you to make 3 choices even if you don't want to??

When you have time in your schedule we need a Disney day- I have so many plans we could be discussing. Plus it's a good excuse to just hang out.

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

You got a ToT FP?!?! Are you actually going to ride???

Also, looking at your Epcot choices makes me ask- does the system require you to make 3 choices even if you don't want to??

When you have time in your schedule we need a Disney day- I have so many plans we could be discussing. Plus it's a good excuse to just hang out.

Caught that, did you? No, I don't think I'll ride. It's Nicole's favorite, so I got FP's but I will probably pass. I'm worried it will make me sick and we have a race the next morning!

Yes, you pretty much have to make 3 FP's. I'm sure you can cancel once they are made to have less, but why bother? Some of the lines that normally aren't long (Spaceship Earth) are longer now BECAUSE of the FP+ system...and of course with the tiers, you can't really get ALL the FP's you need.

Yes! Disney Day!

 

[-Hope-]

Caught that, did you? No, I don't think I'll ride. It's Nicole's favorite, so I got FP's but I will probably pass. I'm worried it will make me sick and we have a race the next morning! Yes, you pretty much have to make 3 FP's. I'm sure you can cancel once they are made to have less, but why bother? Some of the lines that normally aren't long (Spaceship Earth) are longer now BECAUSE of the FP+ system...and of course with the tiers, you can't really get ALL the FP's you need. Yes! Disney Day!

Well, our reasoning was that we'd rather ride Soarin' as many times as possible so we don't want to wait for other FPes to expire before we can try for one at a kiosk. I need to do more research to see what the chances are of getting an extra Soarin FP to see if that's even worth trying. We'll ride at RD and again with our FP+ but I'd really, really, REALLY like a third trip over the orange groves.

ETA: Soarin and Ellen are the only rides in FW Kya wants to do (yes, Ellen, lol). Most of our day will be spent at WS so that's why I'm not too concerned about the other FPes.

 

[Tinker326]

Caught that, did you? No, I don't think I'll ride. It's Nicole's favorite, so I got FP's but I will probably pass. I'm worried it will make me sick and we have a race the next morning!

Such a shame that ToT isn't on Drunk Sunday when I could possibly trick you into riding it and you not remember it. (course that could have backfired on me in a big way... so.. maybe not!)

51 days! SQUEEEEEEEAL!

And rest that dang foot. We can't have any cupcakes injured!!! We have too much walking, riding, drinking and eating planned. Oh, and running too!

Me thinks you should consider carefully taking any runs past 10/11 miles during training?! If you feel it on 9.5 after a lot of careful training, back to backs with higher mileage might put you over the edge?

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

Such a shame that ToT isn't on Drunk Sunday when I could possibly trick you into riding it and you not remember it. (course that could have backfired on me in a big way... so.. maybe not!)

51 days! SQUEEEEEEEAL!

And rest that dang foot. We can't have any cupcakes injured!!! We have too much walking, riding, drinking and eating planned. Oh, and running too!

Me thinks you should consider carefully taking any runs past 10/11 miles during training?! If you feel it on 9.5 after a lot of careful training, back to backs with higher mileage might put you over the edge?

Yep, I'm reevaluating now. I'm just so frustrated, I have done everything right! I have spent months (years now) building myself up and I don't understand why every time I get up over 8 miles I get injured. It's so very frustrating and makes me feel like I'm just not made for this or something.

I was going to do 11, 12, and 10 for the last long run but now I'm thinking maybe 10, 11, and 9 (in that order?) The last one I will be in Orlando and it needs to be the shortest anyway.

I was off my feet a lot yesterday and then walked around Walmart and was hurting again last night so I'm just not sure what to do. I'm resisting the urge to use the crying smiley b/c that's just pathetic and right now I'm just having a pity party!

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

Ok, so help me out Tweedle! (or any other runners that want to throw in their opinon)

I need to be smart about my long runs. I was looking at the calendar and what is scheduled are back-to-back long runs every other week from now...so not this weekend but the following and every other it goes 3-11, 4-12.5, and 5-14.

I had already decided I wasn't going over 12, there's just no need for that and it ruins it a bit for me on race day. If I already did the distance of 14 miles, why do less on race day?

But, with the recent realization that I might not make it AGAIN through training without injury, I need to be careful. I do not want another painful race day(s)!

I can just make the longer runs shorter, but my trip to Orlando 2 weeks before the race is interfering. First off, I will be spending a day at MK, which will be hard on my feet and then following it with back-to-back runs and THEN a day at Universal? I'm thinking not the smartest thing to do 5-14 on that weekend. This causes a problem to move things around though b/c then my long runs will be on consecutive weekends.

I wouldn't mind my last long back-to-back being 3 weeks out on the 31st/1st and then just doing a shorter back-to-back when I'm in Orlando, like 3-7 or 4-8...but then that messes up the longer runs on the alternating weekends before that?

Tweedle! Help!

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

Here's my idea so far...YES, I know I asked for help, but I'm impatient, you can't hold that against me b/c you are too!

I really want to do the 11 miler, but don't feel the need to do more than that. The question is WHEN do I do it? If I'm going to start tapering at 3 weeks out, I'm thinking I might do it then? Instead of doing the 11 the week after next, I could do 10. Then the week where I have to put in another long run but want it to be shorter b/c I will have done 10 the week before...I could do 8?

So on the 10th-11th I would do 3-10 instead of 3-11
then on the short run weekI would actually do two shorts and an 8 on the weekend
then on the 31st-1st I would do 4-11
and then the last long run (where Galloway has you doing 14 and I would be in Orlando) I would probably just do 5-7 or something like that. back-to-back, but shorter because I would have done 11 that previous Sunday.

This won't make any sense unless you are looking at the GSC Training!

 

[Tinker326]

First off, take time to mourn and realize that your body (no matter how much you trained and worked) is probably not built for extending running. I firmly believe everyone is built differently and some just have an easier time with running than others. Once you accept this, you can work on coming up with an alternative plan- one that will be hard to accept if you are still trying to prove to yourself that you can push yourself past something.......

Here's my thoughts....

First off, the 10K training & run. Why don't we try really hard to push this to almost a fast walk. I know that will be hard for you. But look at the 10K as not a race to 'conquer'/'finish' or even 'run' but rather a race to have fun dressed in a costume. Maybe we go as simple as run 2 minutes, walk 2 minutes. And build THAT type of run into your back to back trainings. Meaning, walk that Saturday 'run' on the training plan. This will ease the impact/stress on your feet leading up to the half- which is the one you really want to finish. It would be very bad if you aggravate/initiate an injury doing the 10K. Period.

For the half. I think also you need to try adjusting your run/walk intervals. Last year for Wine & Dine I trained doing a 7/2. I ended up injured and sore WAY more than I have found this year where I'm training doing a 3/1. Yes, pace will suffer- so you need to probably try to come to terms with that (and yes, that will be hard for you, I know) BUT I think the shorter run impact followed by a walk will help the impact stress on your feet. By giving up some pace time, it may just allow you to finish the half without injury.

So with the current training plan I suggest (whether your stubborn tweedleness will follow is a different story):

easy this week
Next week: 2/2 interval, 3 mile 1/10; 3/1 interval 8 mile (give your feet more rest)
Week 13- follow schedule as is
Week 14- 2/2 interval, 4 miles; 3/1 interval 9 miles
Week 15- replace Saturday 4 mile run with 3/1 interval 11mile
make that your last 'long run'. You will be FINE if you get to 11. And by making 11 your last long run on Jan 31 you give yourself 21 days to heal if you happen to injure yourself.
Week 16 (your Playlist)- if not injured do the maint. runs on Tu/Th & 4 miles on the weekend.
Week 14- follow schedule as is.

I think this might be a more doable 'training' plan for injuries. You just have to let go of some higher expectations (that will be the hard part, I think!).

What do you think?

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

First off, take time to mourn and realize that your body (no matter how much you trained and worked) is probably not built for extending running. I firmly believe everyone is built differently and some just have an easier time with running than others. Once you accept this, you can work on coming up with an alternative plan- one that will be hard to accept if you are still trying to prove to yourself that you can push yourself past something.......

Here's my thoughts....

First off, the 10K training & run. Why don't we try really hard to push this to almost a fast walk. I know that will be hard for you. But look at the 10K as not a race to 'conquer'/'finish' or even 'run' but rather a race to have fun dressed in a costume. Maybe we go as simple as run 2 minutes, walk 2 minutes. And build THAT type of run into your back to back trainings. Meaning, walk that Saturday 'run' on the training plan. This will ease the impact/stress on your feet leading up to the half- which is the one you really want to finish. It would be very bad if you aggravate/initiate an injury doing the 10K. Period.

For the half. I think also you need to try adjusting your run/walk intervals. Last year for Wine & Dine I trained doing a 7/2. I ended up injured and sore WAY more than I have found this year where I'm training doing a 3/1. Yes, pace will suffer- so you need to probably try to come to terms with that (and yes, that will be hard for you, I know) BUT I think the shorter run impact followed by a walk will help the impact stress on your feet. By giving up some pace time, it may just allow you to finish the half without injury.

So with the current training plan I suggest (whether your stubborn tweedleness will follow is a different story):

easy this week
Next week: 2/2 interval, 3 mile 1/10; 3/1 interval 8 mile (give your feet more rest)
Week 13- follow schedule as is
Week 14- 2/2 interval, 4 miles; 3/1 interval 9 miles
Week 15- replace Saturday 4 mile run with 3/1 interval 11mile
make that your last 'long run'. You will be FINE if you get to 11. And by making 11 your last long run on Jan 31 you give yourself 21 days to heal if you happen to injure yourself.
Week 16 (your Playlist)- if not injured do the maint. runs on Tu/Th & 4 miles on the weekend.
Week 14- follow schedule as is.

I think this might be a more doable 'training' plan for injuries. You just have to let go of some higher expectations (that will be the hard part, I think!).

What do you think?

How can TweedleDUM be the voice of reason as well?!?!

Yes, I need to adjust my expectations and think long and hard about what exactly I want this weekend to be like. Last year I was so hell bent on being stubborn that I ended up in pain and I REALLY more than anything want to enjoy this race and have fun. Yes, I have the voice in my head about getting a PR for my half time, but if I have to trade that for not being in pain and enjoying myself, I will. Sigh. I think.

I will think about shortening my intervals and work on letting go of the speed/pace issues I have. I THINK I can do it but then I get out there and two things happen...I get bored and start thinking too much, which causes me to speed up b/c I apparently have something to prove to myself...and two...I want it to be OVER. For all the talk I do about loving running, I still get tired of the long runs and want to be done, which causes me to speed up so they can be over with quicker!

I think for the 10K we will be having such fun that I will be ok with it taking longer. Up until now I have been running my short runs straight through and I know you are right and I need to adjust it. WHY am I so stubborn?!?!?!

I'm off to adjust my training plan b/c dammit if I'm not going to have the Tweedlest time PHM weekend and that includes not being in pain and just having fun! Thanks Tweedle, you made me feel so much better!

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

Shew! Ok, thank you Tweedle. I went through my training and changed things (your plan was better than mine, btw) and I'm feeling much better now that I got over the initial Ego-blow of having to change some things. I did add a short back-to-back while in Orlando (2 & 5 on Saturday & Sunday) just to keep my body conditioned to back-to-back since I'm starting my taper at 3 weeks out. I was kind of looking forward to running in Orlando that weekend, so I'll just keep it short.

Now I just need to work on convincing myself that it's ok to shorten my intervals and let go of the pace a bit. I may need a blunt object to the skull for this, I'll let you know!

 

[Tinker326]

How can TweedleDUM be the voice of reason as well?!?!

Yes, I need to adjust my expectations and think long and hard about what exactly I want this weekend to be like. Last year I was so hell bent on being stubborn that I ended up in pain and I REALLY more than anything want to enjoy this race and have fun. Yes, I have the voice in my head about getting a PR for my half time, but if I have to trade that for not being in pain and enjoying myself, I will. Sigh. I think.

I will think about shortening my intervals and work on letting go of the speed/pace issues I have. I THINK I can do it but then I get out there and two things happen...I get bored and start thinking too much, which causes me to speed up b/c I apparently have something to prove to myself...and two...I want it to be OVER. For all the talk I do about loving running, I still get tired of the long runs and want to be done, which causes me to speed up so they can be over with quicker!

I think for the 10K we will be having such fun that I will be ok with it taking longer. Up until now I have been running my short runs straight through and I know you are right and I need to adjust it. WHY am I so stubborn?!?!?!

I'm off to adjust my training plan b/c dammit if I'm not going to have the Tweedlest time PHM weekend and that includes not being in pain and just having fun! Thanks Tweedle, you made me feel so much better!

I get where you are coming from, I do. It really did take me a long time to come to grips with letting things go in my own 'running' style. I felt like I had to go out and prove something to someone... here is my SIL who flaunts her time/pace/distance..... why couldn't I match it? Why did my body give out so easy? Why couldn't I regulate things?

It made my training for Wine & Dine torture I hated it. Every second of it. And it also cut down on the amount of training I did because I hated it.

Somewhere this year I worked hard on readjusting things. Why do I run? I need to for my health (not weight so much but blood pressure/heart). My health doesn't care if I'm doing straight running, hitting 10 minute miles or any of that. My health cares that I'm doing SOMETHING other than sitting in front of a TV. So I had to adjust to what my body can handle....

Truth is, my body doesn't regulate itself well for whatever reason. I have problems with breathing in my runs that make me out of breath & tired much quicker than many others. I overheat easy. My tall frame works against me in my runs as well. By adjusting myself down to a 3/1 I found that I could do things MUCH better. That I wasn't struggling and my recovery wasn't nearly as bad.. and that made my overall run BETTER. Even if my pace went up.

Yes, it's still hard when 60/70 year olds pass me on a course. But... least I'm on that course. So........ in the end, I'm ok with that.

I'm doing it for me & by doing it 'for me' I have to adjust my expectations down to my abilities. I can't be fabulous at all things- so I'll stick to being fab at sarcasm and wit... Ha!

For you, the stress impact seems to be a huge factor. So really the best thing you can do for yourself so you can continue to run at all is reduce the amount of stress constantly on your feet . And it's possible that adjusting your intervals may be the answer. I mean, you already found by introducing intervals in the first place that it has helped. It just needs tweaking...

Worst that will happen is you will find it DOES NOT Help. And if that is the case, then you are no different than you are right now.

So start that mental work. (and yes, I also get running longer is boring & you want it to be over) . I think for that reason alone I believe my 'sweet spot' with running is right around 8 miles. It's why I don't go around signing up for halfs all over the place!

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

Mental work commencing!!!

I think you are spot on, I already found that doing intervals on my long runs helped with recovery, I just have to adjust them to find what works best for the longest runs. I will try 3/1 and see how that works for me. I just need to learn NOT to speed up on the running portion...intervals tend to make me run faster when I'm running b/c I know I'm going to walk and I think the faster I run, the more prone I am to injury.

Thanks Tweedle!

 

[Victoriasmom98]

I have no idea what you guys are talking about, all this new fangled running stuff, but HI! !!

Your picture with your Mom & Savannah is beautiful!!! I love it. You got great Fp's ---- yes, I'm jealous and still sad I'm not going to be there for Playlist.

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

I have no idea what you guys are talking about, all this new fangled running stuff, but HI! !!

Your picture with your Mom & Savannah is beautiful!!! I love it. You got great Fp's ---- yes, I'm jealous and still sad I'm not going to be there for Playlist.

Thanks Ann, it's my favorite pic from Christmas!

now bring on the drunken racing strollers!!!!!

 

[Tink-erin-belle]

The running stuff is going over my head, too - but you are inspiring me to get off of the couch and actually do the Couch to 5K! Maybe one day, this will all make sense! In the meantime, you have great plans and FPs. Once again, I'm jealous you'll be in Disney for MY birthday! Oh, and I can't believe your hair froze during your run! Well, at least now you know you'll still look pretty when your hair turns all white one day

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

The running stuff is going over my head, too - but you are inspiring me to get off of the couch and actually do the Couch to 5K! Maybe one day, this will all make sense! In the meantime, you have great plans and FPs. Once again, I'm jealous you'll be in Disney for MY birthday! Oh, and I can't believe your hair froze during your run! Well, at least now you know you'll still look pretty when your hair turns all white one day

You should totally do Couch to 5K Erin, that's what got me started running and I was hooked!

 

[Tink-erin-belle]

I'll definitely let you know when I start. My sisters and brother want to do a Color Run this summer. But the main reason I need to start running is because I am so out of shape! I'm not up to this part in my TR yet, but the first couple of days in the parks kicked my butt! I was so tired for the first few days! But by the last few days of the trip, I felt great! I loved getting the walking in at the parks that I haven't been able to do at home. I've just got to make time to do it. New Years Resolution!

 

[Trentmom]

Nice Christmas Pics


Great fast pass choices!!

All that running stuff is over my head too, but sounds like you got a handle on things

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

I'll definitely let you know when I start. My sisters and brother want to do a Color Run this summer. But the main reason I need to start running is because I am so out of shape! I'm not up to this part in my TR yet, but the first couple of days in the parks kicked my butt! I was so tired for the first few days! But by the last few days of the trip, I felt great! I loved getting the walking in at the parks that I haven't been able to do at home. I've just got to make time to do it. New Years Resolution!

Usually I'm sore after the first day in the parks! I think it's all the standing more than the walking...my feet get sore!

Nice Christmas Pics


Great fast pass choices!!

All that running stuff is over my head too, but sounds like you got a handle on things

Thanks! and I hope I have a handle on the running stuff! Every time I think I do, I don't!