Tron Moving to Standby on Monday 9/9

[Skywalker3]

I expect wait times like FoP for sure. It's one of the only thrill rides in MK, and really, one of the only reasons my teen boy, 17, wants to go to MK, that and Space Mtn.
FoP does not always drop to low/quick wait times at close. I've gotten in line at FoP when it was posted like 90 mins, about 10 mins before park close , and it was a good 60 mins in line. Not at all a walk on. I think Tron will be the same, especially since people want to see it/ride at night. If I can get these kids out of bed, we're going to plan to rope drop it in Oct......but I also doubt they'll get up for it. There's very little they'll get up early for any more....
since the ILL price is generally $20 or more, that's over $100 for all 4 of us, for a very cool, but 60 second ride. No plans to do that.

 

[DaviVascaino]

This would be a gut punch for us. We loooooove riding guardians and the VQ has never been more than 45 min when we've gone to epcot since it opened.

that is my fear, I think it is coming soon. What is the rationale for Disney to open Tron (who has is a worse queue and not able to accommodate many people) but not open GOG? I am going to WDW in Feb 2025 and I hope it stays

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

I don't mean like people in their 70's or 80's but more like 50's or 60's who had no shot with a VQ, but might be willing to tough it out in a standby line.
I expect the line to be more like 2+ hours on a consistent basis with spikes up to 3hrs but those first few weeks will probably be pretty crazy.

Wait a second, I'm in that age group and don't have trouble getting a VQ. I've also been doing this a long time and understand the crowd patterns, inflated wait times, line stacking and all those little things that can make evening touring successful.

I don't like VQ because it takes away the ability for late night rerides that have been historically available on all of the headliners. Tron going to standby will push even more guests to early morning arrival make the rope drop scene more chaotic than it is now. Time isn't free, and those early arrivals will also lead to earlier departures.

Every Disney attraction has short lines if you know when to hit them. They may eventually add a new ride that breaks this tradition, but Tron won't be it.

 

[DJFan88]

Wait a second, I'm in that age group and don't have trouble getting a VQ. I've also been doing this a long time and understand the crowd patterns, inflated wait times, line stacking and all those little things that can make evening touring successful.

I don't like VQ because it takes away the ability for late night rerides that have been historically available on all of the headliners. Tron going to standby will push even more guests to early morning arrival make the rope drop scene more chaotic than it is now. Time isn't free, and those early arrivals will also lead to earlier departures.

Every Disney attraction has short lines if you know when to hit them. They may eventually add a new ride that breaks this tradition, but Tron won't be it.

Thank you! You said what i was thinking. I may be 54 but i can VQ grab around the best of them. Many of us have been mastering these multiple systems for many years.

 

[scrappinginontario]

It is a very short ride. I wonder if that will make the wait times not so exorbitant? Loading and running and unloading doesn't take too long?

That would make sense but I've waited some of the longest times after my VQ has been called forTron. The line just seems to move at a snails pace and much of it is outdoors and some in the sun. It's a painful wait for sure compared to many other attractions.

 

[HopperFan]

It is a very short ride. I wonder if that will make the wait times not so exorbitant? Loading and running and unloading doesn't take too long?

Then why is the wait in the VQ line still long?

I decided after our VQ wait we would only do LL for this ride. Now you add all kinds of SB folks in the line ... so it should be longer. AND if many folks decide to buy LL because they don't want to be in SB, then SB gets stopped for all those folks to go first.

So they are basically increasing LL and increasing the VQ/SB line, so I'd expect longer waits.

 

[Dug720]

that is my fear, I think it is coming soon. What is the rationale for Disney to open Tron (who has is a worse queue and not able to accommodate many people) but not open GOG? I am going to WDW in Feb 2025 and I hope it stays

That's why I said maybe once the newly reimagined Test Track opens it'll go away. My guess is they are keeping it for now since the other long-wait thrill ride (Test Track) is down. When it reopens it can take some of the crowd.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Thank you! You said what i was thinking. I may be 54 but i can VQ grab around the best of them. Many of us have been mastering these multiple systems for many years.

We haven't tried the new system yet but I can already tell that I'm going to like it. Picking 3 in advance with a rolling 4th is an upgrade over Genie+ for sure. I played video games when a quarter was on the line and those reflexes are still pretty sharp. I don't know why these kids think we can't keep up.

A couple of minutes of refreshing can work wonders and dropping the VQ option like this one being discussed plays into my hand as well.

 

[Skywalker3]

I've watched loading take a while. I've been on a bike when the person next to me decided to get out, didn't want to ride. I've been on several times, when the bike had several empty seats, so a single rider line would've helped.
I've also been in queue, after the lockers, where the ride was down for about 30 mins.....we watched several empty trains go by, then just sat on the floor for about 20 mins.....(after spending over 1 hour in the queue, mostly outside....and I'd put my phone in the locker....I know there's a place to hold it on the bike now) so ride downtime can certainly make it back up. That whole experience was so frustrating, For the first time since VQ started w any ride, we didn't get the 7AM drop, so had to make sure we were in MK at 1 got that VG, then trek back to MK when BG finally called, about 4 hours later, etc. etc. Tron replaced Hagrid's as the most aggravating, (but fun) ride, to try to get on.
I'll just have to start tracking wait times and hope for the best for our early Oct trip, and/or hope kids are willing to rope drop, more likely staying late. I wonder if they'll keep their policy of allowing people in the line up until park close.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

I wonder if they'll keep their policy of allowing people in the line up until park close.

They do have a limited history of cutting off lines before the standard closing time.

When Flight of Passage was new in 2017, they briefly closed the line early in anticipation of long lines cutting into after-hours events. They quickly found out that those evening lines weren't anywhere near as long as expected so that trial only lasted a few weeks and they went back to standard closing procedures. On our first visit later that summer, we found a posted wait of 130 minutes just before park close with a line literally backed up to the entrance. We were in the first preshow area within 17 minutes as almost all of the interior waiting areas were closed off. Those normal nighttime procedures were already working as intended.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I mean, to this day FOP still gets 3 hours or more waiting depending on the day.

It's hard to compare an attraction that never had a way to experience it without booking a pass for it, free or otherwise. That's why it tends to be easier to compare over at Universal where attractions start at Standby and Standby only (with random exceptions like Jimmy Fallon that would use VQ at times) and you can more readily see the effect of the standby line when EP is added.

FOP is still quite popular especially in a ride-lite park like AK but another component about wait times is that while it can get a decent amount of people on the attraction at one time you have a sorting process through the queue (where they ask how many is in your party and then may move you around within the line, then where you're then put into different rooms and then you have the preshow, then you have getting onto the ride vehicle (also putting your items behind you before you even get into the ride vehicle) then you have the length of the attraction. I've sat on the ride vehicle for several minutes before the attraction started. And then if pre-show room is not functioning correctly that could take out people, etc. That's also why sometimes they have skipped the pre-show like if you're there very early morning first thing or at the very end of the evening I've heard of them doing it as well and then obviously during early covid days.

There's just more time spent from start to finish at FOP that adds to the wait time of the queue.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Wait a second, I'm in that age group and don't have trouble getting a VQ.

But you're also on the DIS. Anyone who is on the DIS is going to stand a high chance of not being representative of the general public.

 

[DisneyFive]

I will be surprised if Tron sees the wait times FoP does, at least not on a regular basis. I don’t think Tron has the re-rideable draw FoP does.

We like to ride FoP each trip. Tron we can take it or leave it.

and to add... FOP wait times are so high because there are so few attractions at AK. Certainly not the case at MK with WAY more attractions.

They do have a limited history of cutting off lines before the standard closing time.

When Flight of Passage was new in 2017, they briefly closed the line early in anticipation of long lines cutting into after-hours events. They quickly found out that those evening lines weren't anywhere near as long as expected so that trial only lasted a few weeks and they went back to standard closing procedures. On our first visit later that summer, we found a posted wait of 130 minutes just before park close with a line literally backed up to the entrance. We were in the first preshow area within 17 minutes as almost all of the interior waiting areas were closed off. Those normal nighttime procedures were already working as intended.

...and we got cut off from ROTR standby a full 12 minutes before park close a couple a few years ago. THAT was frustrating.

 

[Flash_Sloth]

TRON has always had LL available for purchase. Have they announced that they'll be selling more or fewer LL with the move away from VQ?

I assume that they'll still sell the same number of LL as before. I know that the price fluctuates day to day, but unless they're increasing the price of LL, and if they're still selling the same number of LLs, this isn't a money grab.

If moving from VQ to standby drives more people to buy LL, it just means that LL will sell out more quickly.

I'm 50+, and I've become pretty good at snagging one of the first VQ boarding groups called. It was nice to be able to walk on right after the ride opened. Moving to standby may change my park plans a bit.

Does anybody know the ratio of LL to Standby guests on TRON (or other rides)?

 

[Jsharp13]

Then why is the wait in the VQ line still long?

I decided after our VQ wait we would only do LL for this ride. Now you add all kinds of SB folks in the line ... so it should be longer. AND if many folks decide to buy LL because they don't want to be in SB, then SB gets stopped for all those folks to go first.

So they are basically increasing LL and increasing the VQ/SB line, so I'd expect longer waits.

Yes, those are great points, I bet you are right. I did forget, same experience with our VQ, it was a long wait.

 

[DaviVascaino]

TRON has always had LL available for purchase. Have they announced that they'll be selling more or fewer LL with the move away from VQ?

I assume that they'll still sell the same number of LL as before. I know that the price fluctuates day to day, but unless they're increasing the price of LL, and if they're still selling the same number of LLs, this isn't a money grab.

If moving from VQ to standby drives more people to buy LL, it just means that LL will sell out more quickly.

I'm 50+, and I've become pretty good at snagging one of the first VQ boarding groups called. It was nice to be able to walk on right after the ride opened. Moving to standby may change my park plans a bit.

Does anybody know the ratio of LL to Standby guests on TRON (or other rides)?

with VQ, you limit the amoutn of people that will ride, and almost everyone that try for the VQ, will get it.

If you do standby line, you can create more ILL spots than before, and allocate fewer spots for stand by line. if people don't get in, the answer is "sorry, this is a new ride, I am sorry the standby line is 3 plus hours".

That is my guess. Disney will never make changes whether the end goal is less or same profit. Those changes are always to increase revenue, so I can bet they will sell MORE ILL now than before.

 

[godfather927]

Wait a second, I'm in that age group and don't have trouble getting a VQ. I've also been doing this a long time and understand the crowd patterns, inflated wait times, line stacking and all those little things that can make evening touring successful.

I don't like VQ because it takes away the ability for late night rerides that have been historically available on all of the headliners. Tron going to standby will push even more guests to early morning arrival make the rope drop scene more chaotic than it is now. Time isn't free, and those early arrivals will also lead to earlier departures.

Every Disney attraction has short lines if you know when to hit them. They may eventually add a new ride that breaks this tradition, but Tron won't be it.

Didn't mean to imply everyone in that age group couldn't figure it out, but probably a large chunk prefer to avoid having to use their phone for things like that.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Didn't mean to imply everyone in that age group couldn't figure it out, but probably a large chunk prefer to avoid having to use their phone for things like that.

In my group, the youngsters are too impatient to spend more than a few seconds refreshing for the next attraction. They just want to know what's next.

 

[georgina]

Didn't mean to imply everyone in that age group couldn't figure it out, but probably a large chunk prefer to avoid having to use their phone for things like that.

Based on your own thoughts? No, sorry, us 60+ people use phones frequently and quite well!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

In my group, the youngsters are too impatient to spend more than a few seconds refreshing for the next attraction. They just want to know what's next.

Youngesters meaning what? Minors? Young adults? And how many of them have had you as the exclusive planner who does it all? That last part makes a huge difference in what is being discussed.

For us my in-laws when they vacation with us rely on us to do the planning, to figure out the tech stuff, they despise QR codes for menus and wouldn't for the life of them use MDE the way we would. When they vacation on their own they stumble through stuff but would not use the app the way we would.