Texas kills fancy last meal requests on death row

[NY Disney fan]

How ironic when talking about murderers being executed.
I would also argue that they made the decision to die themselves, the death penalty isn't really a secret and shouldn't come as a surprise when that is the consequence you face for your chosen action.

Yes they deserve to die but the concept that another human should decide on whether someone lives or dies is immoral. Two wrongs don't make a right despite taxpayer's money. By killing a criminal you now have blood on your hands like he did.

 

[FireDancer]

Time to move into the 21st century, let's cut some of the criminal benefits, they ain't payin' enough taxes.

While I 100% agree with doing away with the elaborate last means it is kind of like worrying about the slow drip in your kitchen faucet while the bathroom faucet looks like Old Faithful.

Without getting too political the biggest source of waste in our prison system is that it is, in many places, a privatized and for-profit industry subsidized by tax-payers.

 

[NY Disney fan]

Without getting too political the biggest source of waste in our prison system is that it is, in many places, a privatized and for-profit industry subsidized by tax-payers.

Like the post office.

 

[akhenaten]

But will people really do that? Human nature says most will pocket whatever the extra is that they have. Honestly, how many people when faced with extra money think FIRST of giving to charity? If as many people who say they do actually did, there would be far fewer hungry people.

The big question is will taxes actually come down from this, or will that money simply be diverted to something else? And again, how much is Texas really spending on it? I know they execute a lot of people, so maybe it does add up.

According to the site I saw texas executed 17 last year $50 per last meal would be a total of $850... divided by how many taxpayers... oh yea that will fill a lot of church food pantries....

 

[luvmy3]

Yes they deserve to die but the concept that another human should decide on whether someone lives or dies is immoral. Two wrongs don't make a right despite taxpayer's money. By killing a criminal you now have blood on your hands like he did.

Well unfortunately my State doesn't have the Death penalty, but if it did and I had to decide, I wouldn't have blood on my hands. I would be doing society a favor and would sleep especially soundly at night knowing that. Obviously YMMV, but I'd have no problem with that decision and no extra hand washing to do either.

 

[FireDancer]

Yes they deserve to die but the concept that another human should decide on whether someone lives or dies is immoral. Two wrongs don't make a right despite taxpayer's money. By killing a criminal you now have blood on your hands like he did.

And if selected for a jury in a capital case voir dire (sp?) would eliminate those with an opposition to the death penalty while keep those willing to impose it if found guilty.

I also believe (and it has been a long time since I had a Poly Sci class so I might be wrong) that there has to be two separate juries in a capital case. One to determine guilt and a separate jury to determine punishment.

Let me ask you because I am curious. Knowing this, would you be willing to sit on the first jury knowing that the second might decide the convicted man will be put to death since you wouldn't actually be determining that yourself?

 

[Uncle Remus]

Sure thing .. right after all good bless your heart christians do support same-sex marriage!

I will go enjoy a real good cup of tea now...

What??? You don't drink what we call Sweet Tea??

While I 100% agree with doing away with the elaborate last means it is kind of like worrying about the slow drip in your kitchen faucet while the bathroom faucet looks like Old Faithful.

Without getting too political the biggest source of waste in our prison system is that it is, in many places, a privatized and for-profit industry subsidized by tax-payers.

I think the good Senator just got po'd when the prisoner didn't eat that big meal, this recent policy change came outta that, so it's just icin' on the cake of killin' this guy. Or gravy on the mashed potatoes! Or brown sugar on the oatmeal. Whatever.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

And if selected for a jury in a capital case voir dire (sp?) would eliminate those with an opposition to the death penalty while keep those willing to impose it if found guilty.

I also believe (and it has been a long time since I had a Poly Sci class so I might be wrong) that there has to be two separate juries in a capital case. One to determine guilt and a separate jury to determine punishment.

Let me ask you because I am curious. Knowing this, would you be willing to sit on the first jury knowing that the second might decide the convicted man will be put to death since you wouldn't actually be determining that yourself?

Not the person that you asked, but I would not be willing to serve on either jury. I simply do not trust our legal system enough to put another human being to death based on the "evidence" provided.

 

[happygirl]

I do not believe in the death penalty because I do not want to answer for anyone's death when I die. All human life has value. Even lifers in prison can use their remaining time to do good in the world. If they choose not to, they have to answer to that. It should be up to no human to decide who lives and who dies. It is immoral.

I agree with almost everything in this post.

 

[PeterPan09]

According to the site I saw texas executed 17 last year $50 per last meal would be a total of $850... divided by how many taxpayers... oh yea that will fill a lot of church food pantries....

That's really my point. In the greater scheme of things, there are probably a lot of things in the Texas budget that could be cut and save taxpayers actual money. This is just something that's popular, but has no real impact.

 

[akhenaten]

What??? You don't drink what we call Sweet Tea??





I think the good Senator just got po'd when the prisoner didn't eat that big meal, this recent policy change came outta that, so it's just icin' on the cake of killin' this guy. Or gravy on the mashed potatoes! Or brown sugar on the oatmeal. Whatever.

Hmmmm... you have made me see the light Uncle Remus.... or should I say you have made me sweeten my tea....
I have come full circle

 

[NY Disney fan]

Let me ask you because I am curious. Knowing this, would you be willing to sit on the first jury knowing that the second might decide the convicted man will be put to death since you wouldn't actually be determining that yourself?

I would have no problem sitting on a jury. Putting someone on death row is different from killing them.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Hmmmm... you have made me see the light Uncle Remus.... or should I say you have made me sweeten my tea....
I have come full circle

Ah, we all have our secrets, I've been known to have a spot of tea in ancient ol' Blue Willow teacups. Sweet Desert Delight by zhi.

 

[BunsenH]

He must have thought that he was on the OLD Disney Dining Plan and had credits to use up.

 

[Uncle Remus]

He must have thought that he was on the OLD Disney Dining Plan and had credits to use up.

 

[FireDancer]

He must have thought that he was on the OLD Disney Dining Plan and had credits to use up.

So the tip was included then?

 

[okeydokey]

I am against the death penalty even without knowing that some not-guilty people have erroneously been put to death.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Wonder if he took the towel animal.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

I would have no problem sitting on a jury. Putting someone on death row is different from killing them.

Is it really? Think about it - you give a man a gun knowing that he is about to use it to kill someone. It makes you just as responsible for the death, IMO.

If you convict a man of a crime knowing with reasonable certainty that the result will be his death, it amounts to the same thing (with respect cause/effect).

The person who kills a prisoner on death row is not the man who "pulls the lever", it is the jury that put him in the "chair".

This is, of course, not a discussion of guilt or innocence - just the actual killing of the person found guilty.

 

[akhenaten]

I am against the death penalty even without knowing that some not-guilty people have erroneously been put to death.

He did but only because it was a white towel....