Teen Mom Series Finale

[JennaDeeDooDah]

I absolutely cannot STAND Farrah. It is actually sad how much I dislike her when you consider I have never met her. She is a terrible example for Sophia. Who on earth tells her daughter about her bedroom trysts? I am a big believer in talking to your child, but there needs to be boundaries. And how she speaks to her parents is completely unacceptable. If I was her mother, I would have smacked her good, too, and much earlier than when her mom finally cracked. She has no friends because she is a complete beech to anyone in her life. She never does anything wrong. I mean, I like to believe that my words and actions are correct, but when someone points out where I am wrong, I at least admit it. She gets this snotty tone, mouths off, and insists that everyone around her is an idiot. She always talked horribly about Derek in 16 and Pregnant. She avoided his calls, called him abusive and a stalker. Then, when she realized that she could use it to get a little more screen time and possibly even social security, she is the grieving widow. "Oh Derek was so wonderful. I miss him so much. We would be married now." Give me a break. I cannot wait for her 15 minutes to be up.

 

[MamaLema]

When Tyler and Caitlyn were crying I was in tears. My heart just broke for them, I REALLY think they would have been awesome parents.

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I was in tears also

 

[MrsPete]

Cornflake has some unnatural hatered for Maci for some reason. No one really knows why LOL. She is by far the best mother there is. Hands down

You're assuming the show must include a "good choice". Of the three, she is the least damaging to her child. That doesn't mean she's anywhere close to adequate.

 

[MrsPete]

I absolutely cannot STAND Farrah. It is actually sad how much I dislike her when you consider I have never met her. She is a terrible example for Sophia. Who on earth tells her daughter about her bedroom trysts? I am a big believer in talking to your child, but there needs to be boundaries. And how she speaks to her parents is completely unacceptable. If I was her mother, I would have smacked her good, too, and much earlier than when her mom finally cracked. She has no friends because she is a complete beech to anyone in her life. She never does anything wrong. I mean, I like to believe that my words and actions are correct, but when someone points out where I am wrong, I at least admit it. She gets this snotty tone, mouths off, and insists that everyone around her is an idiot. She always talked horribly about Derek in 16 and Pregnant. She avoided his calls, called him abusive and a stalker. Then, when she realized that she could use it to get a little more screen time and possibly even social security, she is the grieving widow. "Oh Derek was so wonderful. I miss him so much. We would be married now." Give me a break. I cannot wait for her 15 minutes to be up.

Oh, yeah. Farrah's greatest skill is the art of self-deception. She genuinely believes that if Derek had lived they'd have been a happy family, and she genuinely believes that her parents are the root of her problems.

 

[DVCisME]

I thought it was inappropriate to tape Amber at rehab. How can she really recover?

Farrah blows my mind with her disrespect and inappropriateness with her daughter. Where was her daughter when she walked away at the cemetary?

I don't have much to say about Caitlyn and Maci. Overall, I think MTV could have done better for the first two episodes of the final season. Any one else?

 

[cornflake]

I think my hatred of Maci is perfectly natural, thanks, given she's a useless piece o crap.

I think her constant refrain of telling Bentley not to be like his father, endlessly putting his father down in front of him, using Bentley to manipulate Ryan and Kyle, etc. is much, much worse than Farrah telling Sophia that her bf used to hide in the closet. I thought that was cute, actually, though I agree the Farrah/Derek revision is odd.

I think Farrah is a piece of crap in a general human sense too, she treats everyone badly. However, she does talk to Sophia like Sophia is a person, unlike Maci, who treats Bentley like a doll to back up her manipulative bf efforts.

Also, horrid and hateful as Farrah is, at least she's doing *something* with her life. She's a better role model than Maci in that sense by far. Maci has yet to put together like a single actual semester of school with her registering, dropping, taking semesters off to sit around waiting for her bf to come home from work.

Farrah actually got an associate's degree. It's only an associate's degree, but it's something and she's theoretically going to school in Florida. She was also shown working pretty perpetually.

Maci has no job whatsoever besides being followed by MTV. This does not a role model make. She does nothing.

Neither of them are good people or parents, imo, and Farrah's mouth and attitude are unbelievable, but what Maci does with Bentley is much worse to me. Farrah perches Sophia on top of stuff but she talks to her fine and doesn't use her to manipulate other people.

 

[chellt]

Did anybody else catch Amber's comment when she picked up the bottle of wine? Something like "this is my first drink - since I just turned 21." And then GUZZLED the entire glass in one drink and quickly refilled it. Most people "sip" their first taste of wine, don't they?

 

[pigletgirl]

Did anybody else catch Amber's comment when she picked up the bottle of wine? Something like "this is my first drink - since I just turned 21." And then GUZZLED the entire glass in one drink and quickly refilled it. Most people "sip" their first taste of wine, don't they?

Someone who has an addiction to alcohol may drink their wine this way. Most people dont have wine for their 21st. They want harder booze.

 

[chellt]

Someone who has an addiction to alcohol may drink their wine this way. Most people dont have wine for their 21st. They want harder booze.

That's what I'm talking about! She knew she was being filmed so she casually mentioned that this was her first drink of wine!

And, yes, some people drink their wine that way - addicts or not. DOn't see anything wrong with it. But I seriously doubt someone who had never drank before (cause they just turned 21) could guzzle a glass that quickly. Just my little observation.

 

[cornflake]

That's what I'm talking about! She knew she was being filmed so she casually mentioned that this was her first drink of wine!

And, yes, some people drink their wine that way - addicts or not. DOn't see anything wrong with it. But I seriously doubt someone who had never drank before (cause they just turned 21) could guzzle a glass that quickly. Just my little observation.

Yeah I thought that was funny/sad. Funny that she said it, as it was so patently ridiculous. Sad that she thought anyone would believe it, like she's so far gone she thought that seemed real?

 

[klmall]

I had watched the whole Teen Mom shows only sporadically over the past year until this past weekend when I watched most of the Teen Mom Marathon and caught up so my impressions are based on the overall thing of seeing each woman.

Amber - She isn't just a nasty, dramatic witch; she is truly mentally ill and that really came out in the sessions filmed in CA. I could see it building in her up and down behavior over the months and I actually think she loves her daughter very, very much and that love is what will hopefully get through her problems eventually but maybe not.

Maci - She started out okay way back but I don't think she loves Ryan or Kyle or if she does love either one, she knows it isn't going to work out. Her talk about wanting a degree in journalism is hogwash and I am tired of seeing her waste somebody's $$$ and time signing up for and dropping courses. She has no clue what to do with her life and yet Bentley is the brightest little guy I have seen in years! She is so lucky! A year or two ago she looked so much healthier and happier; someone else said she looks horrible and she does! What is going on with her?

Farrah, (Oh Farrah) - Yes, orange face Farrah! She has accomplished her AA in Culinary School (not a full AA as she stated herself) and she is somewhat independent but at the same time very dependent upon all the help her parents provided to take care of Sophia. She treats Sophia like her best friend and I have very mixed feelings about how she treats her parents. Michael is very good with her but her mother can also be a real drama queen and be very difficult. At times you would think that Farrah is an only child by the way her mother is acting!!!

I think Farrah is torn between needing her parents to help with childcare while she is in FL and knowing that her mom would smother Sophia and poison her somewhat. At least Farrah goes to counseling and works and has some sense of direction.

Now Caitlyn and Tyler's continual reassuring themselves that what they are doing by putting Carli up for adoption tells me that they are still grieving and adjusting. And remember that Caitlyn's birth mother retreat last spring had someone talking about going through an adoption that changed from open to closed and that shook Caitlyn up a little. Every time I see them doing some ritual or buying gifts or looking at pictures I think it brings things up to the surface; good and bad. That 2nd year meeting with Carli was so painful when they truly didn't expect it to be! I hope they can get on with their lives without having their own baby too soon.

 

[AKL_Megs]

In this weeks issue of In Touch, Caitlynn and Tyler are on the cover and says she IS pregnant, and they are marrying in June or July (I forget).

I just saw it at the grocery store today.

 

[Sabrefan]

In this weeks issue of In Touch, Caitlynn and Tyler are on the cover and says she IS pregnant, and they are marrying in June or July (I forget).

I just saw it at the grocery store today.

US Magazine confirmed yesterday or the day before that the story was untrue, not sure where she heard it, but my mom said she read that Catelynns mom was pregnant again. That woman is probably worse than all the kids and she doesn't have age as an excuse to be a horrible mother.

SHe isn't much old than me and looks like she is in her 50's. Rough life I guess.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

US Magazine confirmed yesterday or the day before that the story was untrue, not sure where she heard it, but my mom said she read that Catelynns mom was pregnant again. That woman is probably worse than all the kids and she doesn't have age as an excuse to be a horrible mother.

SHe isn't much old than me and looks like she is in her 50's. Rough life I guess.

She isn't in her mid to late 50s? I figured she was at least that old.

 

[Sabrefan]

She isn't in her mid to late 50s? I figured she was at least that old.

Catelynn is 20 or 21, and her mom said she had her as a young teenager, so I dont even think April is in her 40's yet...she does look like she is in her 50's though doesn't she? Drugs and alcohol age a person, thats for sure!

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

Catelynn is 20 or 21, and her mom said she had her as a young teenager, so I dont even think April is in her 40's yet...she does look like she is in her 50's though doesn't she? Drugs and alcohol age a person, thats for sure!

Wow. I never caught the ages thing before. Oh my goodness. That is scary stuff.

 

[kate_wdw]

Who on earth tells her daughter about her bedroom trysts? I am a big believer in talking to your child, but there needs to be boundaries.

I was thinking the same thing. I've been assuming/hoping that her monologues to Sophia about her relationship with her ex are just for the benefit of the cameras, but given her poor judgment, who knows what's going through her head.

 

[kate_wdw]

Maci does with Bentley is much worse to me. Farrah perches Sophia on top of stuff but she talks to her fine and doesn't use her to manipulate other people.

I don't see it this way.

Farrah absolutely has used Sophia to manipulate her parents (by threatening to cut off contact). I think (or at least I hope) that her parents wouldn't tolerate her appalling behavior if they weren't so invested in staying involved in Sophia's life.

In terms of her romantic relationships, Maci absolutely engages in some adolescent game playing/dramatics, but I think she's still a good mother. First of all, the proof is the pudding - Bentley appears to be a happy and well-adjusted little boy. Second, Maci is clearly thoughtful about the parenting decisions she's making (e.g., dropping the pacifier, getting Bentley prepared for daycare/preschool, etc.). I do think she relies on Kyle a little too heavily, but she also relies far less on her parents than the other teen moms. I also give her a lot of credit for being selective about the type of man she brings around Bentley. While it seems like she's rushing things with Kyle, it also seems like she's motivated (at least in part) by wanting to create a stable home life for Bentley.

She could absolutely be more civil in the way she talks to Ryan, but I think that most women in her position (of any age) would have a hard time with that. I also think that it's important to remember that she has done a lot more compromising with Ryan than many scorned women would do (e.g., avoiding bitter fights in court, agreeing to give Ryan an above average amount of time with Bentley even though it appears that his parents do a fair amount of the caretaking, etc).

Does Maci handle things perfectly? No. But when push comes to shove, Maci seems to make responsible, well-considered parenting decisions (IMO).

ETA: Also, why does Farrah's working in food service and modeling make her a better role model than Maci, who earns money doing public speaking gigs? How many mothers of toddlers would prefer to work more hours at a lower paying job rather than fewer hours at a higher paying job? I absolutely think that Maci should earn a degree and have a plan B, but it seems that Maci is taking advantage of the unusual opportunities her fame has afforded her. And frankly, Maci's behavior on the show has positioned her to take advantage of the fame in ways that Farrah and Amber cannot.

 

[happygirl]

I don't see it this way.

Farrah absolutely has used Sophia to manipulate her parents (by threatening to cut off contact). I think (or at least I hope) that her parents wouldn't tolerate her appalling behavior if they weren't so invested in staying involved in Sophia's life.

In terms of her romantic relationships, Maci absolutely engages in some adolescent game playing/dramatics, but I think she's still a good mother. First of all, the proof is the pudding - Bentley appears to be a happy and well-adjusted little boy. Second, Maci is clearly thoughtful about the parenting decisions she's making (e.g., dropping the pacifier, getting Bentley prepared for daycare/preschool, etc.). I do think she relies on Kyle a little too heavily, but she also relies far less on her parents than the other teen moms have. I also given her a lot of credit for being selective about the type of man she brings around Bentley. While it seems like she's rushing things with Kyle, it also seems like she's motivated (at least in part) by wanting to create a stable home life for Bentley.

She could absolutely be more civil in the way she talks to Ryan, but I think that most women in her position (of any age) would have a hard time with that. I also think that it's important to remember that she has done a lot more compromising with Ryan than many scorned women would do (e.g., avoiding bitter fights in court, agreeing to give Ryan an above average amount of time with Bentley even though it appears that his parents do a fair amount of the caretaking, etc).

Does Maci handle things perfectly? No. But when push comes to shove, Maci seems to make responsible, well-considered parenting decisions (IMO).

I 100 agree Maci is a much better mother then Farrah. Farrah has never been a mother to her daughter. Farrah has had her mom watch Sophia all the time.

 

[dfchelbay]

Anyone else notice all the dramatic pauses and hands over face type stuff from Amber in rehab? Every time she was breaking down and crying to the counselors, there were NO TEARS coming from her eyes....not a drop. She needs a mental ward and not drug rehab. Her rage toward Gary is all based in her believing she is better than him and he is beneath her. Whenever he questions anything, or tries to stand up for himself, it enrages her. She has no respect for him and how dare he question anything she says or does. She is right where she belongs, in jail, maintaining her meds for her mental illness. Her daughter doesn't deserve to witness any of her crap. It's just a matter of time before she begins abusing her child...screaming at her, having outbursts, etc. At the very least, there will be mental/emotional stability for that kid for the next five years.