Teen flown back to UK Hopital* Update Teen Suffers Cardiac Arrest

[lillygator]

Just saw this on the WESH website...
POSTED: 7:34 am EDT July 13, 2005
UPDATED: 7:46 am EDT July 13, 2005

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Florida Hospital-Orlando spokeswoman said a 16-year-old British girl remains in critical condition Wednesday after suffering cardiac arrest following a Disney World thrill ride.


Leanne Deacon felt strange but told her mother she'd quickly recover after exiting Disney-MGM Studios' "The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror." The ride depicts a haunted elevator ride.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office said the girl's condition deteriorated so rapidly that her heart stopped beating, and she had to be resuscitated by emergency workers.

Two people have died after riding other attractions at Disney World this year. A 4-year-old Pennsylvania boy died June 13 after riding Epcot's "Mission: Space." A 77-year-old Minnesota woman died in February after riding the Magic Kingdom's "Pirates of the Caribbean."

A medical examiner's report said she was in poor health from diabetes and several ministrokes and her death "was not unexpected." The cause of the boy's death remains under investigation.

 

[civileng68]

I'm surprised a helecopter was flyin over. I thought is was a no fly zone since 9:11.

The No-Fly Zone is only applicable to airplanes (not helicopters) flying below 3,000 feet.

However, don't concern yourself because, and many congressional leaders in Florida think Disney did it just to mask the safety to customers. They feel that because the airspace that is closed off is pretty small in comparison to other no-fly zones and a plane could fly in from outside the zone and strike a target in WDW within seconds, with no time for defense against it.

Im not saying it will happen but, many, as well as I think that the request from Disney for a no-fly zone of that size was nothing more than to give it's customers a false sense of security to help tourism in what was to become a rough tourism period.

 

[UrsulasMyHero]

The media and disney have a Love/Hate relationship. They LOVE to HATE Disney. *shrug* It's just a reminder to use common sense and read the signs. If you don't feel well, don't ride. It's that simple.

If I ride when I feel a headache coming on, I can't get mad if I get a migraine later.

All in all though, My prayers go out to the girl and her family, a wish for a speedy recovery is sent on heavens wings.

 

[etwinchester]

What is the Mission Space ride? I must have missed that when I was there.

What age is it recommended for?

 

[jlcbshaw]

Just saw this on the WESH website...
POSTED: 7:34 am EDT July 13, 2005
UPDATED: 7:46 am EDT July 13, 2005

ORLANDO, Fla. --
.....................Two people have died after riding other attractions at Disney World this year. A 4-year-old Pennsylvania boy died June 13 after riding Epcot's "Mission: Space." A 77-year-old Minnesota woman died in February after riding the Magic Kingdom's "Pirates of the Caribbean."

A medical examiner's report said she was in poor health from diabetes and several ministrokes and her death "was not unexpected." The cause of the boy's death remains under investigation.

This is what I am talking about.

When the media makes a statement like "Two people have died after riding other attractions at Disney World this year" What is a person to think?

The media just has a way of making it sound like it may have been due to something that Disney has done and I just don't agree with this type of news reporting. I mean they could have reported that a 77 year old female that was in poor health, suffered a stroke while she was riding POC at Disney World and died due to her medical condition. But instead they report "A 77-year-old Minnesota woman died in February after riding the Magic Kingdom's "Pirates of the Caribbean.", which is true but misleading.

Of course my mother always taught me not to believe everything you read, and when it comes to the news agencies, I really take that to heart!

 

[civileng68]

This is what I am talking about.

When the media makes a statement like "Two people have died after riding other attractions at Disney World this year" What is a person to think?

The media just has a way of making it sound like it may have been due to something that Disney has done and I just don't agree with this type of news reporting. I mean they could have reported that a 77 year old female that was in poor health, suffered a stroke while she was riding POC at Disney World and died due to her medical condition. But instead they report "A 77-year-old Minnesota woman died in February after riding the Magic Kingdom's "Pirates of the Caribbean.", which is true but misleading.

Of course my mother always taught me not to believe everything you read, and when it comes to the news agencies, I really take that to heart!

I honestly don't think the local media is as much against Disney, if at all, as compared to national media.

If you want to know the problem with the media in today's society, watch them covering a story. They make the news, not report it. I think Congress needs to re-assess the national media and it's role in determining national opinions.

I personally think that media should only report WHAT THEY KNOW AS FACTS and then let the people make their own opinions. It's obvious the national media has a determination to sway opinions to their liking.

Example: Last year Disney got reemed in the national media as to serving bad tomatoes and making people sick. However, what they didn't say was that Disney had nothing to do with it, and that the vendor that sold the tomatoes, had bad tomatoes and also sold them to vendors across the nation. However, it was made to be Disney's fault.

I think the local media builds Disney up more than anything. I think it's the national media that brings them down, not so much due to hate, but due to the fact that the media reports things (so they can be the first to break the news) before they know one single fact.

In the media, the top dog is the one that breaks the story. With standards like that, how can you expect to receive facts instead of estimations?

 

[jlcbshaw]

I honestly don't think the local media is as much against Disney, if at all, as compared to national media.
......................I personally think that media should only report WHAT THEY KNOW AS FACTS and then let the people make their own opinions. ................

I agree and just to clarify, I only see and hear the national media so these are the agencies that I was referring to in my post.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Does anyone truly think that these type news stories even create a blip on the overall park attendance or peoples opinions of any of Disney's parks? Although the events are unfortunate, I think that people see the report on the news, say "Oh, how sad" and move on with their lives, or Disney vacations. The only place these accidents are debated, to exhaustion, is on internet discussion boards like the DIS. You're typical park visitor isn't nearly as involved, not even close, with all things Disney as your average DISer.

 

[civileng68]

Does anyone truly think that these type news stories even create a blip on the overall park attendance or peoples opinions of any of Disney's parks? Although the events are unfortunate, I think that people see the report on the news, say "Oh, how sad" and move on with their lives, or Disney vacations. The only place these accidents are debated, to exhaustion, is on internet discussion boards like the DIS. You're typical park visitor isn't nearly as involved, not even close, with all things Disney as your average DISer.

I would initially tend to agree, but while you and I may not be affected by it, the average Disney person who really may only go to Disney once every ten years for a vacation or has never been, WILL be swayed by anything they hear regarding media reports.

Also I assure you Disney executives are very sensative to media reports about Disney, and it's for a reason.

 

[jarestel]

Believe whatever you want to as will I. I was giving my opinion on the situation.

Simply reporting on something tragic that happened on Disney property isn't a negative thing. Hushing it up and pretending it never happened would be the negative thing, IMO.

All I was trying to say was that bad things happen everyday, everywhere and it doesn't necessarily mean its the fault of Disney that someone (with a pre-existing condition) falls ill, or unfortunately, dies in their park.

We are in agreement here, except I don't know anything about pre-existing conditions and you seem to. Could have been pre-existing and it's easy to speculate, but I've not seen any statements from the family to this affect.

I didn't form any opinion or speculate on the health of guests or the common sense of guests....

Sorry, the last part wasn't addressing anything you said, just some general thoughts on the overall tone of the thread.

Why oh why must every thread lately become a debate?

Again, apologies for having a slightly different view on this than you do, but differing opinions don't necessarily have to be seen as a "debate".

 

[pamouselover]

I do hope all goes well for the girl and her family. It is so scary for me as a parent taking my children soon to Disney that all of these horrible things keep happening down there. I know it is not at Disney's fault, but gosh it is scary.
It keeps taking away my happy feeling of going...I dont like that.
Last night I worried about terror attacks to Disney. Not good watching the news before you go to bed and hearing of bad disney news.
God please keep our happiest place on earth safe for everyone!

 

[DisneyGirl]

You know, the one thing that I've noticed about all of the articles that address the accidents, is that they pretty much all have to bring up the fact that Florida law allows amusement parks to inspect rides themselves, rather than Government inspectors.

I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing consumer lobbyist groups and some politicians start promoting a state-run inspection system for rides, citing that as the reason there were accidents.

Personally, I think any inspection system the commercial entities would have would be more effective than any state-run system. There motivation is making sure these things don't happen so 1) attendance doesn't go down, and 2) they don't get sued. The state's motivation would be re-election for the politicians who pass the law.

I don't think the ride itself had anything to do with the injuries/ deaths to these people-- where they may have aggravated a pre-existing condition, I can't see any negligence on the part of the amusement parks themselves.

 

[brerrabbit]

I pray that the girl is okay and fully recovers from her condition. That said I think that much of the media hype around occurances at Disney or anywhere else for that matter is caused by two factors. First is an inherent need people have to asign blame for everything. It's the rides fault, its the parents fault for knowing her condition and letting her ride anyway, its her Doctors fault for not diagnosing and doing something earlier. How about this, it was an undiagnosed condition and it was nobodies fault? Our society just cannot accept that as an answer. Secondly, News, be it print, radio or TV is a business and not merely an information source. They fight for ratings, circulation and advertising dollars so their motto is "if it bleeds it leads" Ratings are garnered by showing the worst, most tragic events possible and its better yet when they can cast doubts upon a corporate giant like Disney. They know half the people will watch because they love Disney and don't want them to be blamed while the other half can watch and say "see I told you they don't care, they are only in it for the money." Sometimes, things just happen, no ones fault they just happen. Its tragic, its sad and we all deeply regret it but it just happened and thats that.

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

DH read on another forum that she had an aneurysm that her family knew about.

How can you know about an aneurysm? If you konw you have one, that could break at any moment, then you have surgery usually to have it fixed NOW! You don't go to Disney first.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I would initially tend to agree, but while you and I may not be affected by it, the average Disney person who really may only go to Disney once every ten years for a vacation or has never been, WILL be swayed by anything they hear regarding media reports.

Also I assure you Disney executives are very sensative to media reports about Disney, and it's for a reason.

Point taken, but which statement do you think might be more damaging, and get stuck in your average, every 5-10 year visitor:

"Girl dies on Mission Space. A medical examiner's report said the child was in poor health from diabetes and several ministrokes and her death was not unexpected".

or:

"Disney raises ticket and resort prices to new high".

IMO, from a straight headline standpoint, I think the price increase would cause less people to visit and please understand, I'm not trying to dimiss anyone's death.

I beleive a free press does more in this country than any other instituion in keeping America free and democratic. Unfortunately, there are many reports, on many national and local new stations, that still use the ol' "if it bleeds, it leads" mentality. Your average American is so desensitized to death, unless it happens to a family member/close friend/famous person, we watch, shake our heads, and go back to eating our breakfast cereal.

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

I live near Six Flags Great America just outside of Chicago Then in the news we see "Man Dies in Wave Pool at Six Flags". Then as you read on in the article, the man had a heart attack in the wave pool, .

We just had this happen as well, at Six Flags America in the DC area. A woman had a heart attack on a water slide. She was young too, in her 30s I think.

 

[bytheblood]

I'm surprised a helecopter was flyin over. I thought is was a no fly zone since 9:11.

I am sure if CareFlight is involved or something serious like this, there are exceptions.

 

[WaltD4Me]

How can you know about an aneurysm?

My girlfriend's dad has an in-operable aneurysm. He and his doctors know about it, but because of where it is or something, the risk to remove it is greater than the risk of leaving it there. He's had it for awhile, I don't know if his doctor has told him there are things he shouldn't or can't do, but he did take early retirement from his job as a machinist though.

 

[Ted and Holly]

I think the local media builds Disney up more than anything. I think it's the national media that brings them down, not so much due to hate, but due to the fact that the media reports things (so they can be the first to break the news) before they know one single fact.

You don't get WFTV do you? I would be willing to bet they have an entire department out searching for Disney scandals.

Ted

 

[bytheblood]

That's a very philosophical thing to say as long as it's not your child whose time has come. I suspect it would be more difficult to be so zen about death once it becomes personal.

I have to agree with the previous remark. We are each appointed once to die. Some babies live 1 day, some not at all, some live a full life of 105 years. Sure it is personal when it is your child, but it is a fact. My daughter is 7 and I can imagine nothing on this earth worse than losing her, but when God calls my child to go home, she has to go home.


Along with the thread, these parents that are allowing their children to ride on thrill rides really should take caution and pay attention to the signs...they are there for a reason.