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Once upon a time, Stormalong Bay was not nearly so particular about letting people in. The access policy was created in response to problems--possibly only perceived problems, but problems nevertheless.

I am a fan of minimalism, and would rather they wait to see if there is a problem before creating a solution to it.
 
Once upon a time, Stormalong Bay was not nearly so particular about letting people in. The access policy was created in response to problems--possibly only perceived problems, but problems nevertheless.

I am a fan of minimalism, and would rather they wait to see if there is a problem before creating a solution to it.

I think that’s the issue, the Lava Pool is already a problem with non-poly guests accessing the pool. The lava pool needs to be addressed IMO.
 
Once upon a time, Stormalong Bay was not nearly so particular about letting people in. The access policy was created in response to problems--possibly only perceived problems, but problems nevertheless.

I am a fan of minimalism, and would rather they wait to see if there is a problem before creating a solution to it.
I agree, I think the last time we were at the VGF pool, and it neared capacity, they had someone at the gate checking wristbands or room keys if I remember correctly.
 

I read somewhere that PVB and PVB tower is under the same association. Why would the direct price be different at $250 vs. $225 for the new tower?
 
I read somewhere that PVB and PVB tower is under the same association. Why would the direct price be different at $250 vs. $225 for the new tower?
It's not. $250 was the price when the resort was officially "sold out," with the original longhouses (last month). $225 is the price now that it is an "active and open" resort again. Except for the initial booking window (new points have priority for the tower starting tomorrow and ending later this month, I think), all points at PVB are identical. My guess, DVD hasn't updated all of their webpages yet.
 
I read somewhere that PVB and PVB tower is under the same association. Why would the direct price be different at $250 vs. $225 for the new tower?
$250 was the "sold out" price prior to the introduction of the tower. As has happened in the past, when new inventory is added to a property and it goes into active sale again, the price was reduced.
 
It's not. $250 was the price when the resort was officially "sold out," with the original longhouses (last month). $225 is the price now that it is an "active and open" resort again. Except for the initial booking window (new points have priority for the tower starting tomorrow and ending later this month, I think), all points at PVB are identical. My guess, DVD hasn't updated all of their webpages yet.

$250 was the "sold out" price prior to the introduction of the tower. As has happened in the past, when new inventory is added to a property and it goes into active sale again, the price was reduced.
Thanks! That makes sense. I was probably looking at the old pricing at $250 per point.
 
Unfortunately, there are non guests that come swim at the Disney pools. Poly is vulnerable because you can walk over to the TTC when you are done, and nobody is going to question you. Saratoga Springs is vulnerable because people park at Disney Springs.

When I was at CBR this summer and they were handing out wristbands during the day, the CM said it was something being considered at resorts that could be an issue without the locking gate, which CBR doesn’t have.

Since Lava Pool has that lock, it sounds like no plans to change those at this time…and yes, I know people follow in.

Bit GF pool doesn’t have that so maybe can at least get some level of MB access there.

I am going to mention, though, that the pools belong to the hotel side and not the DVC condo so very possible that the board members have not real clue what Disney might end up doing.
 
I am going to mention, though, that the pools belong to the hotel side and not the DVC condo so very possible that the board members have not real clue what Disney might end up doing.
Fortunately this is a problem, that - if it becomes worse - will affect regular guests the same as DVC members. So Disney will have an incentive to address this.
 
Fortunately this is a problem, that - if it becomes worse - will affect regular guests the same as DVC members. So Disney will have an incentive to address this.
Exaclty! Which is why I do think that something wil happen if they get complaints from more than just DVC.

Which is why, if I was an owner of OVB, I’d be sending concerns to Parks and Resorts and not just DVC.
 
I was actually looking at this as the glass half full... it makes Oct and Dec pretty great UYs (again like the VGF 2 "fire sale") to just sit and wait to see what happens!

Oct can purchase 9/30/25 and Dec can purchase 11/30/25 and get the same number of points as today and MS will courtesy bank them past the deadline. No early booking on 10/15/24, but if you don't need the points right away and want to see a better promotion possibly released you have an entire year. Plus you will save an entire 12 - 13 months worth of dues so depending on whichever developer incentive tier you buy, that is almost the same as the current incentive. Sure the price can go, but we may see Welcome Home and/or Magical Beginnings added.
Question about timing the direct purchase:
1. If my UY is Aug and purchase before 7/31/25, do I get the full points for the '25 UY and will have to pay prorated MF for Aug-Dec?
2. Same UY of Aug as above but if I make a purchase on 8/2/25, do I not get the points for '25 UY but will have to pay prorated MF for Aug-Dec?
 
Question about timing the direct purchase:
1. If my UY is Aug and purchase before 7/31/25, do I get the full points for the '25 UY and will have to pay prorated MF for Aug-Dec?
2. Same UY of Aug as above but if I make a purchase on 8/2/25, do I not get the points for '25 UY but will have to pay prorated MF for Aug-Dec?
If you have an August UY and you purchase 7/31/25, you get the full 2024 UY allotment in addition to your 2025 UY allotment which starts 8/1/25. Member Services will courtesy bank the 2024 UY points for you since you are past the banking deadline (3/31).

You will pay no 2024 calendar year dues since you are purchasing in calendar year 2025. You will pay pro-rated 2025 dues based on the calendar year (not use year) from the time you agree to the purchase (not when you sign the documents).
 
If you have an August UY and you purchase 7/31/25, you get the full 2024 UY allotment in addition to your 2025 UY allotment which starts 8/1/25. Member Services will courtesy bank the 2024 UY points for you since you are past the banking deadline (3/31).

You will pay no 2024 calendar year dues since you are purchasing in calendar year 2025. You will pay pro-rated 2025 dues based on the calendar year (not use year) from the time you agree to the purchase (not when you sign the documents).
That makes sense. Thanks.

What if you make a purchase after your UY has passed for that year? Do you not get previous year's allotment?
 
That makes sense. Thanks.

What if you make a purchase after your UY has passed for that year? Do you not get previous year's allotment?
Correct. If you purchase the day your UY starts or any time after that, you only get the current UY allotment since you were not an owner during the previous UY.

PVB Island Tower is a little special because no 2023 UY points exist so someone with a Dec UY isn't getting anything special buying now. They are only getting 2024 because only 2024 UY points exist for the Island Tower. If someone with a Dec UY purchased Riviera right now, they would get 2023 UY points.
 
Correct. If you purchase the day your UY starts or any time after that, you only get the current UY allotment since you were not an owner during the previous UY.

PVB Island Tower is a little special because no 2023 UY points exist so someone with a Dec UY isn't getting anything special buying now. They are only getting 2024 because only 2024 UY points exist for the Island Tower. If someone with a Dec UY purchased Riviera right now, they would get 2023 UY points.
Understood. It’s interesting how they’re treating the Island Tower differently when it is still part of PVB which existed in 2023.
 
Understood. It’s interesting how they’re treating the Island Tower differently when it is still part of PVB which existed in 2023.
The condo association existed, but the units in the tower did not. Points are really just a way to account for your ownership in an unit.

Since the tower units did not exist until 2024, then they can’t give ownership prior to 2024….that is why everyone’s first set of points are 2024 UY points.
 
I think the tower is going to put pressure on GF’s transportation and pools. Just eyeballing the distance but GF monorail/bus might be the same distance or even shorter - I easily could be wrong about that though. I also really am banking on wrist bands for the pools - I have seen it posted multiple times on FB that tower guests should just use the GF pools.
I hope both Poly and VGF pools get actual wrist bands. As a VGF owner (who doesn't own at Poly b/c it's always crowded when we stay there), the worst case scenario is that only Poly gets them and then our pools get overrun with daytrippers (I'm less worried about tower guests). It's not just the crowding, it's also safer not to have random non-guests slipping in and hanging out.
I’ve got some bad news about that. I went to the first board meeting for the Polynesian and asked specifically about crowd control at the pool. I don’t remember the name of the board member that answered the question. She was understanding of my concern, but shared that they are reluctant to wrist band pools because it creates a different set of issues when you restrict access to amenities. 🤷🏼‍♀️ She did say that they will monitor the situation, but are not anticipating an issue because there is no slide at the tower pool.
This is so disappointing. I suspect a lot of "hackers" are already planning to bring their kids for a mid-day cool off at the Moana splash pad, too.
This is my concern. I genuinely want all resorts to have wristbands for pool access. It's less about Poly Tower people going to VGF's pool or the other way around, and it's more about people who are not staying at the resort but using its pools because they're easily accessible.
Agree-- again, it's not just crowding, it's also increasing risks of theft.
Somewhat off topic but related. The reason I like the older Fast pass+ was because we could make our choices for a little later and avoid the opening mob. The busses and monorail will be much busier at Poly and GF so I'm sure they will add more busses to cover it, but not sure how much more they can add on the monorail line. We liked to go to the pools when they first open for an hour or two "almost always no crowd" then head over to the parks. Maybe this updated Genie plus will be different, but it seems wasteful the last time we were there in June to purchase it later in the day. Poly was sharing the gym with GF, so hopefully they will end up with their own as well.
This is a great point-- we aren't rope droppers at WDW and used to stack and arrive later. That really does not work well with the new LLMP system, and I wonder if it has already increased crowding on the monorail and buses int he AM.
Oh I agree! I bought BLT resale this morning and I’m actually looking forward to booking there. I’ve never paid much attention to that resort because the theming in the contemporary just isn’t my thing. Now my attention has shifted from “how pretty is this” to “how crowded is this”
We have two different VGF contracts, which we sometimes use at home and sometimes use as SAP-- I'll hold our direct contract but seriously considering unloading our resale contract before everybody else realizes how much less pleasant it is with a lot of new guests using the monorail, buses and maybe pools. If I could swap my resale VGF to BLT with no costs, I would do it.
This is so frustrating to hear. If I had to take a guess as to what their biggest "issue" is in restricting pool access to only those who are PAYING FOR THOSE AMENITIES, it would be that they have to add multiple employees to the payroll in order to staff it 7 days a week. God forbid they improve the experience quality for their paying customers!
I think they both do not want to pay extra employees, but they also don't want to create scenes of tresspassing guests fighting with pool staff. Just paying whomever is manning the slide to check wristbands might solve some of the problems but I think at least some of the resort pools don't have anybody at the top of the slide, only a light, right?
Once upon a time, Stormalong Bay was not nearly so particular about letting people in. The access policy was created in response to problems--possibly only perceived problems, but problems nevertheless.

I am a fan of minimalism, and would rather they wait to see if there is a problem before creating a solution to it.
Unless SAB has way more capacity per guest than Poly, I think the signs of the problem are evident. Even when BC & YC are sold out, you can typically find a few chairs together (and have multiple options) in the middle of the day, and at least one or two hot tubs won't be crowded. Meanwhile, at Poly (where we stay less frequently) we've had several days where we can't find more than one chair available at the feature pool and it's after hunting for some time to even find one, or we are sitting in upright chairs instead of loungers.
 



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