Official 2014 Donald Half Marathon

I've read on the 2014 marathon thread that some of the resorts will have bananas, bagels etc available in the lobby - compliments of the management :goodvibes

I tend to just eat a banana before a long run, I plan to buy some of these from the Boardwalk store the day before the race, and also bring some cereal bars/Belvita from home to eat straight after the half marathon... during a run I have one energy gel and a few handfuls of jelly beans!


Emma princess: x
 
I've read on the 2014 marathon thread that some of the resorts will have bananas, bagels etc available in the lobby - compliments of the management :goodvibes

I tend to just eat a banana before a long run, I plan to buy some of these from the Boardwalk store the day before the race, and also bring some cereal bars/Belvita from home to eat straight after the half marathon... during a run I have one energy gel and a few handfuls of jelly beans!


Emma princess: x

The free layout is more an exception than a given - and I wonder if it were a one off event due to a CM failure to show. I would not plan on it happening at the AKL a second year.
 
Last year, we stayed at the Polynesian, and at the quick service (Captain Cook's), they were selling runner's breakfast packs the night before the races.
They had a large table of them and they were selling like hotcakes ::yes::
I can't remember everything in them, but I know it was a bagel, stuff for your bagel, banana... not sure what else.

It was nice to have them ahead of time and not have to worry about that detail so early in the am.

Even if the resorts don't have this option, I always do this on my own anyway. I purchase a bagel or whatever, the afternoon before (while they still have a decent/fresh selection) and condiments (peanut butter, etc) and fruit or whatever I need for the pre-race morning. I bring ziplock bags to store them in to keep them fresh. I get my water, and post-race chocolate milk to keep in the room's refrig. for after the race so I have it as soon as we get back to shower, etc. to hold us over until we have our next meal.

I like to anticipate and have the what-can-go-wrong-will mentality so I'm totally prepared. It would be awful to not have the pre-race items we're used to. Nothing new on race day and all...;)
 
I realize that the rules have all changed this year and I'm basically asking people to speculate here, but how fast (in terms of pace) do you think one would have to be to stay out of the last corral this year?

The RunDisney site says to submit a time if you expect to complete the half in 3:15 or less, which is a 14:52 pace. So would a 10k time faster than that do the trick? I'm trying to decide if it would be worth my time and money to do a local 10k this weekend so I have a half decent time to submit.
 

I realize that the rules have all changed this year and I'm basically asking people to speculate here, but how fast (in terms of pace) do you think one would have to be to stay out of the last corral this year?

The RunDisney site says to submit a time if you expect to complete the half in 3:15 or less, which is a 14:52 pace. So would a 10k time faster than that do the trick? I'm trying to decide if it would be worth my time and money to do a local 10k this weekend so I have a half decent time to submit.

I would say that if one submitted a proof of time in a 10k in the 1:27 or better range you would be one to two corrals in front of the end. A 1:27 (14:05) 10k is a race equivalent to a 3:15 half.

Saying this, even if you ran a 1:32 and indicated that your estimated finish would be a 3:15, I think you are still OK. It is really unclear how Disney calculates race equivalents. It all depends on what weight they give to your estimated finish time. Note they are not asking for a new estimated time, but it cannot hurt to state it. Obviously, one could not estimate a 2:20 based on these results, so reason is in order.

I say run it and have fun. Try for a great time to get away from the last corral. If it does not work, you still have a race under your belt. You can never say gaining experience is bad.
 
I'm in!!! This will be my first Disney run and my DH and I are SUPER excited. Going down for my DSIL 40th birthday. She's doing the Dopey challenge, crazy girl. DH and I will be doing the Donald and loving every minute of it. We usually go to Disney in June, when we go, so I'm a bit nervous about what the weather will be like.
 
I'm running the Donald 1/2 too! It will be my first half and longest distance run ever. I just started running a couple months ago and my longest run to date is 6.2 miles (my qualifying 10K run)! I'm slowly getting stronger and can't wait to run in my favorite place!!
 
Hi everyone,

Three months to go! :cheer2:

Hope everyone's training is going well so far - I'm loosely following the Jeff Gallway plan.. two 45 minute runs a week, longer run at the weekend and 3 days of cross-training (I do strength and core training at the gym). So excited for January now, I keep watching You Tube videos of the race to keep me motivated :goodvibes


Emma princess: x
 
I know this video is from the marathon, but when the ladies of We Run Disney posted it on their website, it stuck with me. It's my fave, so here's a little bit of motivation for everyone! :grouphug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDG66D1wdUo

That is a lovely video - thank you for posting!

Here are some others I've found...

2013 runDisney video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj4clnqf9YA

2013 half marathon summary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWDQ0k4_X8o

2013 WDW Radio running team video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsKiht3L_eU

2012 half marathon run-a-long:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQNy7-W6D0E



Emma princess: x
 
Roar. I'm feeling scared and negative. :scared:

Please bear with my venting...

DH and I are trying to do the Galloway plan but I'm in a play right now which is completely messing up our schedule. We are able to run Monday, Fridays and the weekends. We've been trying to do our short runs on Monday and Friday after work and our long run over the weekend. My show is over at the end of the month, so we'll be able to train on the recommended days in November and December but I'm afraid we're missing out much needed training now. We still go out 3 times a week but I just feel like we're not getting what we need out of it. We mostly walk. We did the 6 mile run for week 4 on Monday after work and averaged a 17:45/mile pace. :headache:

We've been trying to work in more running with our walks but we're having a very difficult time. DH is getting quite a lot of pain in his shins whenever we run. He's fine walking, but after we add in 30+ seconds of slow running he starts to hurt. He bought one of those roller things and seems to like it quite bit. He also got an icepack but doesn't always use it. We try to stretch before and after our runs. Everyone says to go to a running store and get good shoes but he doesn't want to. A few years ago we went to Marathon Sports in Boston to get him shoes. The staff watched him walk and were very helpful. He must have tried on 100 different pairs. He finally bought a pair but he says they don't fit right. (Too be honest, I think he bought them out of guilt because he took so much time with the staff and didn't want to leave empty handed.) He got some sport insoles last week, but his left foot still feels weird. He has a very hard time fitting shoes (this is why he loves Crocs so much!) - His left foot is half a size bigger than his right or something. I think he won't go to the shoe store because he thinks it won't help due to this prior experience. Those shoes he bought were expensive.

I am having some trouble too. My cardiovascular system is not the best. I might or might not have exercise asthma. (Isn't that just a nice way of saying someone is out of shape?) I haven't needed my inhaler at all, but I can't even jog for more than 60 seconds without being completely out of breath. Like Jason, I can walk - even power walk - with no trouble. I really want to work on my running to get past this but we can't run enough with Jason's shins for me to improve.

Finally, I'm really sweating our pre-race fueling. I really enjoyed reading on here about what people are planning to eat before the race but I'm not sure what we should do. We try to be gluten-free and low-carb. (We both have weight issues.) Jason is also a type 1 diabetic. I thought we could have a banana with peanut butter before our race. How does that sound? When should we start experimenting with pre-run food? What should we eat the night before the race if we can't eat pasta? What are considered easily digestible foods?

Well, I think that's it. Thanks for reading. I'm super nervous that we're not training hard enough and we're going to be swept on race day.

This is my 2nd attempt at the Donald. In 2010 my sister and I signed up. Our whole family came down to cheer us on. I walked off the course at mile 5. I couldn't breathe and my inhaler wasn't helping. My sister finished on her own. Although I am happy for her, I'm still jealous and feel terrible about myself for not finishing. Almost 4 years later and I'm still obsessing over this. All I can think is "I failed." I embarrassed myself in front of my family and I can't seem to get over it. I MUST finish this race in 2014. I MUST!

OK, that's it. Thanks again for reading. I'm going to go fret now and read about gluten-free runners. :guilty:



[hmmm.... I wonder if my obsession with the 2010 race is making me more scared and negative then I need to be...?]
 
No, exercise induced asthma isn't just a way of saying you are out of shape. I developed it while in the most amazing shape of my life, in college, while rowing Crew.

You do need to get it under control though. If you can't get it worked out with what you have, go see someone else and find other methods. MDs say you always have to treat; I don't go that route personally and have found that acupuncture and chiropractic make me much less likely to have a bout of asthma. But I do like having my plain albuterol around, just in case, though I haven't needed it in over a year (and i don't actually have an inhaler right now). You have to find what works for you.

Now I will say that half of the work I did as I went into Galloway stuff was getting my cardiovascular system up to speed. I did a couch to 5k program twice; first one was using time and the second was doing distance. Then I signed up for the 10 miler and just kept on working on heart lungs muscles and blood vessels while I waited for the training program to start.

At first my lungs were VERY annoyed with me! But they got better over time. Maybe for you right now it would be good to do a walk/ walk faster interval?

Your husband is going to hurt himself if he doesn't get better shoes. Many of us have different sized feet. I have experimented with one thin sock and one thick to make up for foot size differences. Also with different lacing techniques for the smaller foot. I wish shoe stores could have a "foot twin" program to match up people so I could get an 8 right and 8.5 left shoe, and someone who needs the opposite could get the other two shoes. :)

Find a store that has a great return policy and USE it if needed. Nothing good will come of DH having bad shoes.


For the 10 miler it felt like I was always experimenting with food. But it was more along the lines of what I could tolerate.

I believe carb loading is more than just eating pasta the night before. It's not something I do. It never worked or me on Crew and eating that heavy the night before would mess up my stomach. And I think the true loading comes after a few days of no or very low carbs to bring levels way down then load them up just before. I don't do the whole process (I think that most people don't), I don't do half of it either. I just try to eat well and in a way that works for me.
 
Roar. I'm feeling scared and negative. :scared:

Please bear with my venting...
First... :hug::hug::hug: You sound overwhelmed and frustrated and that's a sucky way to feel, right?! I'm sorry - and hope we can help ease some of that :)

We did the 6 mile run for week 4 on Monday after work and averaged a 17:45/mile pace. :headache:
Don't sweat this too much; there's still lots of time to train and you're not that far behind the minimum pace.

Everyone says to go to a running store and get good shoes but he doesn't want to.
^ This is going to be HUGE problem if he doesn't do something about it. If shoes don't fit right, or aren't the right brand/shape/level of cushion or support/size/profile/etc. it can cause a whole lot of harm. If he doesn't want to go to store, he should spend some time researching the many options out there (Runners' World reviews a TON of shoes) and order online to try them at home. Running Warehouse and Road Runner Sports have very flexible return policies so that you can give shoes a good try and exchange as needed.

My cardiovascular system is not the best. I might or might not have exercise asthma. (Isn't that just a nice way of saying someone is out of shape?) I haven't needed my inhaler at all, but I can't even jog for more than 60 seconds without being completely out of breath.
No, it's not and I hate that you've been given that impression. :sad1: I've been running for 20 years, was a dancer, skied, played soccer, have always been active, am very fit and have exercise-induced asthma. I always use my albuterol inhaler 15-20 minutes before exercise; the times I've forgotten I was out of breath within minutes. I would try using your inhaler proactively and see if it helps. If it doesn't, please see your doctor, as you may have regular, not exercise-induced, asthma, which is handled quite differently.

Finally, I'm really sweating our pre-race fueling. I really enjoyed reading on here about what people are planning to eat before the race but I'm not sure what we should do. We try to be gluten-free and low-carb. (We both have weight issues.) Jason is also a type 1 diabetic.
PLEASE talk to a doctor and/or nutritionist on this subject. You don't want to mess around with diabetes. FWIW, I don't carb load; I'm chronically hypoglycemic and carb loading would just make my glucose crash, then drop. I eat a good balance of complex carbs, lean protein and good fats.


hmmm.... I wonder if my obsession with the 2010 race is making me more scared and negative then I need to be...?]
Maybe. But I totally understand that; just went through it myself, after a pretty disastrous TOT last year. All I can say is, try not to dwell on what was, do your best to prepare for what's to come, and try not to stress too much about it all! :thumbsup2
 
i ran the TOT 10-miler last weekend as my first Disney race. i can't wait to run the Minnie 10k and the Donald 1/2 in January!!! :cool1:
 
Roar. I'm feeling scared and negative. :scared:

Please bear with my venting...

DH and I are trying to do the Galloway plan but I'm in a play right now which is completely messing up our schedule. We are able to run Monday, Fridays and the weekends. We've been trying to do our short runs on Monday and Friday after work and our long run over the weekend. My show is over at the end of the month, so we'll be able to train on the recommended days in November and December but I'm afraid we're missing out much needed training now. We still go out 3 times a week but I just feel like we're not getting what we need out of it. We mostly walk. We did the 6 mile run for week 4 on Monday after work and averaged a 17:45/mile pace. :headache:

We've been trying to work in more running with our walks but we're having a very difficult time. DH is getting quite a lot of pain in his shins whenever we run. He's fine walking, but after we add in 30+ seconds of slow running he starts to hurt. He bought one of those roller things and seems to like it quite bit. He also got an icepack but doesn't always use it. We try to stretch before and after our runs. Everyone says to go to a running store and get good shoes but he doesn't want to. A few years ago we went to Marathon Sports in Boston to get him shoes. The staff watched him walk and were very helpful. He must have tried on 100 different pairs. He finally bought a pair but he says they don't fit right. (Too be honest, I think he bought them out of guilt because he took so much time with the staff and didn't want to leave empty handed.) He got some sport insoles last week, but his left foot still feels weird. He has a very hard time fitting shoes (this is why he loves Crocs so much!) - His left foot is half a size bigger than his right or something. I think he won't go to the shoe store because he thinks it won't help due to this prior experience. Those shoes he bought were expensive.

I am having some trouble too. My cardiovascular system is not the best. I might or might not have exercise asthma. (Isn't that just a nice way of saying someone is out of shape?) I haven't needed my inhaler at all, but I can't even jog for more than 60 seconds without being completely out of breath. Like Jason, I can walk - even power walk - with no trouble. I really want to work on my running to get past this but we can't run enough with Jason's shins for me to improve.

Finally, I'm really sweating our pre-race fueling. I really enjoyed reading on here about what people are planning to eat before the race but I'm not sure what we should do. We try to be gluten-free and low-carb. (We both have weight issues.) Jason is also a type 1 diabetic. I thought we could have a banana with peanut butter before our race. How does that sound? When should we start experimenting with pre-run food? What should we eat the night before the race if we can't eat pasta? What are considered easily digestible foods?

Well, I think that's it. Thanks for reading. I'm super nervous that we're not training hard enough and we're going to be swept on race day.

This is my 2nd attempt at the Donald. In 2010 my sister and I signed up. Our whole family came down to cheer us on. I walked off the course at mile 5. I couldn't breathe and my inhaler wasn't helping. My sister finished on her own. Although I am happy for her, I'm still jealous and feel terrible about myself for not finishing. Almost 4 years later and I'm still obsessing over this. All I can think is "I failed." I embarrassed myself in front of my family and I can't seem to get over it. I MUST finish this race in 2014. I MUST!

OK, that's it. Thanks again for reading. I'm going to go fret now and read about gluten-free runners. :guilty:



[hmmm.... I wonder if my obsession with the 2010 race is making me more scared and negative then I need to be...?]

First, you are heaping way too much pressure on your shoulders at this point in time. It’s way to early to be in full panic mode. I don’t know if the pressure is coming from 2010 or the schedule you mention, but take a deep breath and release the tension.

Starting with schedule. Honestly, Jeff’s plans are long run centric. If you are making long run distances you are well on your way to the finish line. Training Monday, Friday and a weekend day is not prime but is substantially better than skipping runs. Hang in there. Once you are able to spread out the runs, add a little speed play to the Tuesday runs.

Shin splints are a function of several possible issues. Of primary concern are old shoes, improper shoes, adding too many miles too quickly and over-striding. You mention a shoe store trip that was several years back. I am hoping that the shoes your DH is running in are not those shoes. If they are, get him into a new ride quickly. Likewise, if you have no idea how many miles are on the shoes and they are more than a few months old, you may need a new pair. I still suggest a trip to a running store. Tell the store you are on a budget. Most every kind of shoe (stability, motion control, neutral) in a specific brand has a cheap cousin. If one’s feet are different sizes, you may need two pair of shoes.

Look at your log of runs over the last few weeks. If your DH missed a run or the total number of miles jumped up quickly, or if you added the run segments on a long run and had not used them before, that could trigger a splint issue. Have your DH walk the next long run and see if the shins feel better.

Finally with regard to the shin splints, I find the many newer runners tend to want to overstride when looking for speed. In simple terms, the result is a harder than normal heal strike which acts in a braking manner and sends additional shock waves up through the leg. Try landing on the mid foot for a few runs to see if this helps. Then to speed up, one needs to work on a quicker turnover or increasing the number of steps per minute.

I cannot speak to your maybe have or maybe not having exercised induced asthma, As a coach, I am thinking that you are simply running too fast. If you have asthma that will compound the feeling when pushing too hard. If you cannot talk in a near normal sentence while out training, especially on the long runs, you need to slow up. By going out too fast you are not creating the needed adaptations for an endurance event. The closer one runs to anaerobic conditions, the greater the percentage of sugar-based fuels on will consume and the quicker one will deplete the limited stores. In real simple terms, we all have about a 90-minute supply of glycogen, no more. Slow up so that the body will take create adaptations allowing for a higher percentage of fat as fuel. Yes, this sounds counterintuitive, but you cannot run the long runs in a huffy-puffy condition, if that is the way you are feeling. If you are not suffering from asthma, a few weeks down the road you will have a better capacity for your runs.

With regard to fueling, your initial ideas are not bad for a pre-run fuel. You may need to consider a portable fuel for 45-60 minutes into the run. Frankly, the meal in front of, during and within an hour post run can be almost any carb and/or protein that you can handle. Easily digestible is a function of you and your system. We are all an experiment of one and wheat works for you may not work for another.

If you are gluten free due to a health need, then practice that on long run day, otherwise, you may be following a fad and not something that is necessarily bad. One does not need or really want to ‘carb up’ the day before a long run. I know from personal experience that one can put on pounds if one tries to practice tis old wives tail practice. Carb loading is a hard, sickening and terrible feeling week long process that starts with a depleting process and one would only want to practice before a really big race. 99% of folks running a Disney race are not going to go through this process. I would work with your doctor and a dietician for a long term solution to dietary needs. A 40-30-30 ratio of CHO, PRO, FAT is an ideal ratio for most all runners.

Hang in there. There are still many weeks between now and January. Take one day at a time. Work on speed on your midweek runs and on running in a nearly conversational pace for the longer runs.

Hope this helps

[ADDED] I meant to mention that instead of worrying about carbing up the day before a long run, I would counsel thinking about hydration the day before a long run. Poor hydration ruins more runs than fueling ever has. If one starts off dehydrated they may bail on a run within a mile or so from the start. Think of sipping water all day the day prior to a long run. You want you urine to be clear with a slight color; noting that color can be created through supplementation. If you get in a practice of staying on top of liquid intake the day before then it is one less reason for a crash on race day
 
Would not have considered myself a runner when I planned to do this Jan 13. However, I just completed my first race ever - ToT 10miler in under 2 hours (and stopped for characters). Speaking of characters, this is the reason I signed up. Can Anyone who has previously run the Donald tell me who were some of the characters along the race?
 
Would not have considered myself a runner when I planned to do this Jan 13. However, I just completed my first race ever - ToT 10miler in under 2 hours (and stopped for characters). Speaking of characters, this is the reason I signed up. Can Anyone who has previously run the Donald tell me who were some of the characters along the race?

Captain Jack (Before the toll plaza), Cinderella (as you head back stage), Mickey & Minnie (golf course), Toy Story folks (Tomorrowland and frontier land), Mary Poppins (GF Gate), Larry the lounge lizard (though I think he retired) and Peter Pan in Fantasyland. There are a few others like Main Street USA characters along Main, some lesser know furry friends, a bunch of big wheel bikes in TTC.

There are others and the order/location can be revised.
 
Captain Jack (Before the toll plaza), Cinderella (as you head back stage), Mickey & Minnie (golf course), Toy Story folks (Tomorrowland and frontier land), Mary Poppins (GF Gate), Larry the lounge lizard (though I think he retired) and Peter Pan in Fantasyland. There are a few others like Main Street USA characters along Main, some lesser know furry friends, a bunch of big wheel bikes in TTC.

There are others and the order/location can be revised.

Thanks! Sounds like a fun race - well, as fun as running 13.1 miles can be. :)
 







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