News Round Up

[rteetz]

The problem is that anything short of a Carsland clone will be viewed as a major disappointment to the hardcore Disney fans. And for that matter, a clone would also probably be viewed as a failure.

That is true. It will be interesting to see what phase 3 becomes.

 

[rteetz]

Hatbox ghost will be present in the Halloween overlay

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...n-haunted-mansion-holiday-at-disneyland-park/

 

[rteetz]

Hong Kong announces their 10th anniversary celebration enhancements including new fireworks show and what looks to be a new stage show similar to Mickey and the magical map at DL

http://www.laughingplace.com/w/news/2015/09/11/hong-kong-disneyland-10th-anniversary-celebration/

 

[Eoghann]

That is true. It will be interesting to see what phase 3 becomes.

Star Wars is the crown jewel for DHS. I don't think Phase 3 is going to be on that scale, more on the scale of Toy Story Land. The two announced projects don't put enough attractions in the park (even if the two rumored shows happen). Phase 3 potentially fixes that if you assume at least 2 more rides plus the associated extras, but I wouldn't go looking for a E-tickets necessarily.

 

[Josh Hendy]

Hmmm...if only there was a published, easy to understand reason behind the buyback that would make sense...

Like the end of an employment contract rich with SEC machinations...

If only

LOL.

Like this?

 

[rteetz]

Star Wars is the crown jewel for DHS. I don't think Phase 3 is going to be on that scale, more on the scale of Toy Story Land. The two announced projects don't put enough attractions in the park (even if the two rumored shows happen). Phase 3 potentially fixes that if you assume at least 2 more rides plus the associated extras, but I wouldn't go looking for a E-tickets necessarily.

Yes completely agree

 

[lockedoutlogic]

LOL.

Like this?

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Wow...it even has pretty shapes to dumb it down...

A warning to everyone: be prepared to see this pic repeatedly when any discussion of "of course they'll invest in parks" comes up.

It's the whole ballgame.

 

[rteetz]

Just saw some new news. Muppets vision 3D is likely to go. However that doesn't necessarily mean the end of the muppets entirely for the parks.

 

[rteetz]

Kongstruction update

http://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2015/09/king-kong-themed-land-update-mural.html

 

[smitch425]

Just saw some new news. Muppets vision 3D is likely to go. However that doesn't necessarily mean the end of the muppets entirely for the parks.

Timeline? After Oct 12, I hope. lol

 

[skier_pete]

The problem is that anything short of a Carsland clone will be viewed as a major disappointment to the hardcore Disney fans. And for that matter, a clone would also probably be viewed as a failure.

Agree. Us hardcore fans would be disappointed with another Carsland, but I don't think they worry too much about keeping the hardcores happy. We're the idiots that drop money there no matter what they do, and for every one of us that "falls off the wagon" they find two more to replace them.

 

[rteetz]

Timeline? After Oct 12, I hope. lol

Nothing at this time. It's probably got some life yet maybe into next year.

 

[Eoghann]

Just saw some new news. Muppets vision 3D is likely to go. However that doesn't necessarily mean the end of the muppets entirely for the parks.

This sort of inevitably follows on from the Lights/Streets of America news. And it's the first thing I'm even at all sad about. But... how old is that show now? If they're going to replace it with a new Muppets attraction then I say out with the old.

 

[Eoghann]

Agree. Us hardcore fans would be disappointed with another Carsland, but I don't think they worry too much about keeping the hardcores happy. We're the idiots that drop money there no matter what they do, and for every one of us that "falls off the wagon" they find two more to replace them.

I think it's safe to say the overwhelming majority of visitors to WDW will not have visited Disneyland at all never mind had a chance to do Carsland.

 

[nelsonj3]

Here's a quick Avatarland and Discover Island Update for anyone who is interested.

Also here is Jungle Cruise Skipper Canteen Construction Update.

 

[nelsonj3]

I think it's safe to say the overwhelming majority of visitors to WDW will not have visited Disneyland at all never mind had a chance to do Carsland.

That's probably true, but Carsland is absolutely incredible. We live within 30 minutes of WDW, but we've been to Disneyland just to see Carsland. Can't wait to go back!!

 

[Eoghann]

That's probably true, but Carsland is absolutely incredible. We live within 30 minutes of WDW, but we've been to Disneyland just to see Carsland. Can't wait to go back!!

I've never heard anybody say anything bad about it, but most people won't plan a trip to the other side of the country just for that. There are exceptions of course, but it's a small number. The difference mix of guests to both Disneyland and WDW is pretty well known.

So while that hardcore might hate the idea that Cars rides at WDW are unoriginal or not pushing the envelope I think there's a far far larger group that would love to get access to them. The hardcore fans are not always right and shouldn't be catered to to the exclusion of others.

 

[rteetz]

This sort of inevitably follows on from the Lights/Streets of America news. And it's the first thing I'm even at all sad about. But... how old is that show now? If they're going to replace it with a new Muppets attraction then I say out with the old.

Muppet vision is the last thing Jim Henson worked on i believe

 

[Eoghann]

Muppet vision is the last thing Jim Henson worked on i believe

So I have heard, certainly the last thing where he voiced Kermit.

That in itself however should not be a reason to keep it indefinitely.

 

[Josh Hendy]

Agree. Us hardcore fans would be disappointed with another Carsland, but I don't think they worry too much about keeping the hardcores happy. We're the idiots that drop money there no matter what they do, and for every one of us that "falls off the wagon" they find two more to replace them.

They should compromise between the hardcore fans and the apathetic ones and try to please everyone in between ... by building lots and lots of high quality rides. With the best theming possible given that the main priority is the rides (and the gift shop if they insist).

I would be very happy with a Radiator Springs Racer ride, and I don't care if the vehicle mechanism resembles Test Track or if the same ride exists elsewhere. I don't care if there is an entire Cars Land, as long as the ride and its immediate surroundings are nicely themed.

I think I'm pretty close to the average (semi-frequent) guest when I say that it's the high-quality rides like Everest, the MK mountains and the better-quality dark rides, and a handful of other top tides at the other parks that keep me coming back. Along with a handful of high-quality shows like Festival of the Lion King and Beauty and the Beast, and one or two high quality, live, open-air musical groups.

Video-screen based rides are not what I call high quality. And I think most people would agree. At least the ones who already own TVs and video game consoles. Anything that is mostly singing or talking audioanimatronics is boring to the average person. Don't deny it ... I've been there and I've seen the looks on the faces of the average guest and heard the comments they make when they're exiting.

The public consensus is ... build more rides like the Mountains, Test Track, Soarin', Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Tower of Terror. Make them big, high capacity, generously long and well themed without taking shortcuts. That's how you fill theme parks in the long term, and sell a lot of high-margin food and souvenirs.