Just a Vent...December fares and MSP

zulaya

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Facts: Trip is planned Dec 9-16.

Ok, so I have time to get these tickets.

But with oil prices just going up and up, I can't see airfare going down. But I am also having a heck of a time spending $320 per person to fly to FL. That's over $100 more than I am used to spending, especially travelling at that time of year. And I know there can be fluctuations in price...but heck the airfares are more volatile that the stock market.

(Where is a smilie for pulling your hair out in frustration?)

I am not so much mad at the airlines (although some of me is) but at this whole situation! Arrrgggghhhhhhh.
 
The only airline that has been keeping their prices down in the MSP market is Airtran. Their typical starting price has been $104 each way. THey recently upped it from $99 to $104. December isn't out yet, but you could wait for them......

Have a good one!

Duds
 

zulaya said:
Facts: Trip is planned Dec 9-16.

Ok, so I have time to get these tickets.

But with oil prices just going up and up, I can't see airfare going down. But I am also having a heck of a time spending $320 per person to fly to FL. That's over $100 more than I am used to spending, especially travelling at that time of year. And I know there can be fluctuations in price...but heck the airfares are more volatile that the stock market.

(Where is a smilie for pulling your hair out in frustration?)

I am not so much mad at the airlines (although some of me is) but at this whole situation! Arrrgggghhhhhhh.

I totally agree! I just told dh that it was going to cost us over $1200 for the 4 of us to fly and he about lost his cookies! What has hurt us is that we decided in December that when we go this October we were going to drive so we missed the really good fares (the ones that we are use to paying) and good flight times. Now, dh decides that he wants to fly. :crazy: So it's either we drive to Baltimore or D.C. (2.5-3hours away) and fly out or we just drive it. I say drive, now it's just convincing him.........
 
I'm from Kentucky, but I had to fly to MSP commercially this past December, when I bought/picked up my plane at nearby Blaine-Anoka County. I found the United airfare outrageous. It cost me around $400 total for two one-way tickets from Lexington, KY to MSP. On top of all this, it was the most delayed and unpleasant commercial flight I've ever dealt with.

A city that size deserves more competition among carriers. I would think the stampede from that area to go south for a week or so during those ridiculously cold winters would be enough justification for a Jetblue, SWA or some such discount airline to come in and fill the void. I guess I'm wrong.
 
grimley1968 said:
A city that size deserves more competition among carriers. I would think the stampede from that area to go south for a week or so during those ridiculously cold winters would be enough justification for a Jetblue, SWA or some such discount airline to come in and fill the void. I guess I'm wrong.

It's not that cold... heck it isn't like we are Siberia! :teeth:

We would all love to see some competition here, but NWA has the market locked up, especially politically, though I am amazed politicians are still willing to bail out NWA. NWA isn't holding up it's side of bargains, including closing it's maintenance base in Duluth. They are hanging Minnesota out to dry.

Airtran is giving it a try and they offer many flights out of here. Sun Country was great for a while, but the last 6 months or so has brought higher than normal fares from them. Either they are not making it and had to charge higher fares OR they are making it and the demand caused the fares to increase..... either way it is too bad as SC was my carrier of choice to Orlando.

duds
 
duds, I totally agree with you.

Let NWA fail. There is so much business travel from MSP to other places, plus the leisure travelers...the demand IS here! Any airline would see the gap and jump in here as a way to make money.

I wish they would just do it now. The idiot politicians seem to think it's a way to hold on to high paying jobs or something, but they don't seem to get it that other airlines would need mechanics, FAs, baggage handlers, etc the same that NWA does.
 
My two cents...I would not buy airline tickets in March for a December trip. Typically 3 months out...airlines will have sales. I recently purchased my July airline tickets w/US Air and this is the farthest out I have ever bought airline tickets for a vacation (they were $121 RT so I couldn't pass them up).
Check out the farefinder feature on the Bestfares.com site. It has helped me find some great deals in the past...including my $121 RT just purchased.

best of luck,
Esmerelda
 
We're flying the same dates - 5 of us from Moline, and 2 from Ohare.

Hoping a good deal will come along - but not holding my breath.
 
Yah Zulaya hold off for now.
We always go the time of year you are and I usally don't get the good deals till at least August. I do look everyday though because you never know. Thats how we got our $150 NWA tickets last year in June. Wasn't expecting to buy that early but couldn't pass it up. :hippie:
 
Well, our trip is planned for Nov. 30- Dec. 4th. I bought our tix from MSP a month ago. We are flying- five of us for less than $1000! We are flying American. I got the price I wanted, and the departure times I wanted. We do have a layover in Chicago both ways, but that was planned in case DSis was going to go with us. So, I am happy with our choice. I do keep my eyes open for cheaper airfares anyway.

Good Luck!
I also agree with the NWA opinions. I like to fly Airtran when I can.

Oh- the comments on this not being Siberia.... I've been to Siberia, and the weather was exactly the same as it was here. It was just as cold here as there- however we were in the southern part of Siberia.
 
miche61 said:
Oh- the comments on this not being Siberia.... I've been to Siberia, and the weather was exactly the same as it was here. It was just as cold here as there- however we were in the southern part of Siberia.

Maybe I have seen the movie "Gulag" to many times!
:lmao:

Duds
 
Don't get too strung out zulaya - we're only an 8 hour drive north of you and airfare for the 3 of us is going to be in the $2400 range ($2000 US). :sad2:

But hey - it Disney...
 
I'm waiting for Air Tran's late November & December schedule to be released. Hoping when it is, the others will come down some.

I am not anious for NWA to leave - if they do, it is highly unlikely that MSP will have so many non stops. Maybe there will be some to MCO, but I'm sure we'll end up connecting to go to a lot of other places. I'm hoping they can get their costs under control and that fuel goes down. Even the low cost carriers are going to have trouble with rising fuel - I've read that the legacy carriers will be OK when they get out of bankruptcy, but that the low cost will have trouble in the future (due to fuel). We'll see.

Anyway, I still think there will be sales for those of us going in early December and am not yet in a panic to buy airfare. Hope I'm right about the sales.

Best wishes -
 
Hey guys...I know I have time...it's just the anal planner part of me that wants all my ducks in a row now.

Esmerelda...tee hee...I wouldn't be buying tickets in March since it's April now...tee hee... ;)

miche61...Glad you are happy with American and the times they have. Have flown them twice and both times were not great experiences in terms of on time, customer service, etc. But I admit, it was a long time ago. Still, stuff like that is hard for me to get over. And since we are travelling with others, making a stop with a layover is not an option unless we get $99 RT airfare or something. Glad you found something that works for you.

pugdog and CarolMN...I hear you...the waiting just gets to me...
 
dudspizza said:
It's not that cold

I hate to inform you, but yes it is! Okay, maybe it's not Siberia. I only say that because I've never been to Siberia to compare the two.

But Minnesota is c-o-l-d in the winter solstice to us non-Minnesotans, especially those of us in the upper south in Kentucky. It can get pretty cold here (to me that means below 0), but those are usually low temps and it only lasts for a day or two. I've seen weather forecasts in Minnesota where the high temps don't get above 0 for days at a time. That, my friend, is cold.

When I picked up my plane at Blaine, I was amazed at how the light flurries that day were sticking to the ground. Blaine had about 7 inches on the ground, much of it from the flurries. Then I realized that it had not been above the freezing mark there for a couple of weeks by then, so I guess any flurries that fall would stick, and would stay there. In my area, when it flurries, it's often warm enough (even above freezing) that it just doesn't stick, and the effect is more of just a wet ground.

The plane broker I bought the plane from lives a little further north than that (Princeton, I think), and he was practically laughing at me that I didn't want to risk flying out that day in the flurries and cold. It was about 19 degrees that day for the high. He said that was balmy to him. The broker was wearing an unbuttoned coat and t-shirt and went for walks with his dog while I checked out the plane, etc. I was absolutely shivering in my 4 layers of clothes. Somehow we got out of there and down into warmer air in Illinois that day. Thank goodness for heated hangars in Minnesota.

Sorry to tell you, but Minnesota is just plain cold. It seemed like a beautiful state, though, and I loved the architecture. Some very, very friendly people, too. It was really neat to see the landscape below me as I flew my plane back to Kentucky. I'd never seen an ice-fishing cabin (our lakes here may get a thin layer of ice in winter along the shores, but not safe enough to try ice-fishing like you can on frozen-solid lakes), but I saw hundreds of those things as I flew south. That looks like it could be fun.

Anyway, besides just people trying to get away from the cold in winter, Minn.-St. Paul is a huge city that deserves more choices than what MSP has to offer. Any other city that size, and you're bound to find at least one or two relatively inexpensive fares. A flight from Lexington, Louisville or Nashville to MSP should not have cost anywhere near what I had to pay for it. It's about the same distance to me as Orlando, but I can fly to Orlando for a third or less than what I had to pay to get to MSP.
 
I am going late November/early December. Airtran just released their schedule for that time frame. Fares are at 109.00. I don't want to play the waiting game. I would have like the lower fare but I doubt I will get it. We (dd and I) flew from MSP to MCO in December 2004 for 79.00. While I wish I cook come close to that I know we won't. However we will still be within my projected budget for our airfare. I'll be booking our flights as soon as my funds get from my online savings account to my B&M bank.
 
Some of us other Minnesotans are still with you!

And Grimley, not too cold here today! :rotfl2:

Duds
 












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