Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[DMRick]

I just see it as her answering the questions. I'm sure her kids already knew those answers. I assume Jon doesn't have a job. There is so much more she could have said and I'm surprised she didn't. I think Jon would have been hard pressed to say he didn't know if she had a job LOL. And so much more Leno could have asked.

Don't worry Doris, I won't bite!

The trash part (at least in my opinion) is the fact that she said anything at all about Jon's employment. Her agreeing with Jay Leno that she is the only one working to support the kids (the actual words were "You said it."). Or pausing dramatically while saying "Ummmmmm" when Jay asked her what Jon does for a living. She degraded the father of her children on national tv and that is in poor taste. I'd say the same of Jon if he said that. Actually, I think I have said that about Jon! Anyhow, that's what I meant by her trashing Jon on Jay Leno.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Don't worry Doris, I won't bite!

The trash part (at least in my opinion) is the fact that she said anything at all about Jon's employment. Her agreeing with Jay Leno that she is the only one working to support the kids (the actual words were "You said it."). Or pausing dramatically while saying "Ummmmmm" when Jay asked her what Jon does for a living. She degraded the father of her children on national tv and that is in poor taste. I'd say the same of Jon if he said that. Actually, I think I have said that about Jon! Anyhow, that's what I meant by her trashing Jon on Jay Leno.

If he has no job--that is a fact, not an opinion.

She was asked by Jay--it is a comedy show after all...so it is going to be directed towards teh humorous side.

I disagree that she was trashing him though. If she called him names (loser, deadbeat, waste of oxygen)--then I'd agree with you. She may have been snarky, but she wasn't trash talking him with anything that America didn't already know that his lawyers ALREADY stated on the record.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

First, you can't blame anyone for wanting a better lifestyle for oneself and your children. I know I do. Second, Jon IS a loser and prolly not even paying child support as he doesn't even have a job and can't pay for his lawyers even. Third, I would rather shop at Goodwill personally, before shopping at Walmart. Not everyone HAS to choose that lifestyle just because some of the population does.

There is nothing wrong with being a strong woman.

That is all true but my point was that Kate talks as if she is barely able to put food on the table. I don't buy that. If she came out and said (like I already mentioned in my post above) that she wants this lifestyle for her and the kids, fine. But that's not the image she's projecting is it? No, she keeps talking like she's scraping to get by and provide for her kids.

I don't blame her for wanting a better life for herself and kids. I want that for my own kids. But I didn't make millions of dollars off a reality show, write numerous books that also made lots of money and go on DWTS to make even more money while lamenting that I'm just trying to put food on the table! There's a difference.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I agree. I am also starting to wonder, while this goes to court, is it possible the $20,000 isn't being paid, but maybe going into escrow? Could that have been kept from us? Why aren't the people interviewing her asking that question. Just a simple, hey Kate, aren't you getting $20,000 from Jon? Why hasn't that been asked? I really don't get why we know he's paying it, but others are ignoring it. I know sometimes when you go to family court, some things the judge tells them to not talk about, but they haven't been to court yet.
Why isn't the $20,000 being discussed? Come on radar, you are usually better than this at digging this stuff up.

Good question.

But Kate has that big ol' lawyer debt. I do know that celebs can let an interviewer know what is off limits for discussion and maye Kate's attorney won't allow her to discuss it.

Just tossing that out there as a possibility.

(ie. not that they have a gag order--but Kate is maybe refusing to talk about it ahead of time)

 

[DMRick]

I scrolled down on the Amazon site and see there is a letter area. For anyone who posts on that GWOP site..is it true they are encouraging people to go and post negative reviews? If so, that's just not nice. I can't believe some of the posts. Wow, it must take a lot of energy to hate someone they don't know so very much. They say they are doing it for the kids. Really, how is all this hate being spewed helping the kids? I have to go take a shower now, after reading all of that.

Edited to add, that if the book was bought from Amazon, it says it at the top of the review. I wonder why all those people who didn't buy the book from Amazon, would bother to come there to post their review. It appears that all the positive reviews so far, are from people who actually bought the book from Amazon.

 

[Mermaid02]

It's nice we are all allowed to express our opinions on this thread

 

[3prettyprincesses]

If he has no job--that is a fact, not an opinion.

She was asked by Jay--it is a comedy show after all...so it is going to be directed towards teh humorous side.

I disagree that she was trashing him though. If she called him names (loser, deadbeat, waste of oxygen)--then I'd agree with you. She may have been snarky, but she wasn't trash talking him with anything that America didn't already know that his lawyers ALREADY stated on the record.

I disagree, talking about Jon's lack of employment was tacky (trashy). The same would go if Jon was on Leno and talking about Kate's lack of employment. Do you think the kids will look back fondly on that interview with Jay Leno and Kate and say well, it was true so that made it ok for mom to talk about our dad on national tv that way. I don't think so, it was in poor taste for her talk about it all. Humorous? Nope, I don't think it was. Do you think Kate would have found it humorous if Jon went on Jay Leno and made dramatic, snarky comments about her dancing ability? My guess would be no.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

It's nice we are all allowed to express our opinions on this thread

We're almost always civil!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

That is all true but my point was that Kate talks as if she is barely able to put food on the table. I don't buy that.

I can't speak for Kate--

But whenever I hear any celeb say they are struggling to pay the bills, it makes me scratch my head.

Budgets are interesting creatures and the spending habits of people from welfare recipients all the way up to Bill Gates can influence what one can "afford" or not.

I was watching Carnie Wilson's show and I was surprised at how tight things were for her and her husband. She says at one point, bill collectors were threatening her...yet she lives in a nice California home, can sneak off shopping on Rodeo Dr and gets her hair done at a pricy salon with her BFF stylist and his boyfriend.

PEople with money are not immune to financial difficulties nor are they immune to struggle.

Their paradigm is just different though--and it annoys most people who have much less and struggle that the celeb really doesn't get what true struggle is like.

So does Kate struggle---I'm sure she does. It's just "upper middle/upper class" struggle as opposed to Katrina FEMA trailer struggle.

And most folks don't empathize with that and for good reason.

Do I think she is lying? Not at all--I do believe that in her world, there is struggle and worry.

Is she doomed to bankruptcy and welfare--not hardly.

 

[OhMari]

Don't worry Doris, I won't bite!

The trash part (at least in my opinion) is the fact that she said anything at all about Jon's employment. Her agreeing with Jay Leno that she is the only one working to support the kids (the actual words were "You said it."). Or pausing dramatically while saying "Ummmmmm" when Jay asked her what Jon does for a living. She degraded the father of her children on national tv and that is in poor taste. I'd say the same of Jon if he said that. Actually, I think I have said that about Jon! Anyhow, that's what I meant by her trashing Jon on Jay Leno.

I saw Leno too. Another sleepless nite for me.
To add-Kate said she is saddened by the custody court case. She felt they worked out the custody between them, without the courts and now it is going to get ugly. And she felt it is so un-necessary.
Anyway-Jay asked Kate what dance she will be doing next-The Fox Trot.
Jay asked how much practice is she getting in, because of going back and forth. She told Jay, with the last dance-she practiced 2 days and got it. She also told Jay, before she went out on the dance floor Monday, she felt the love from the audience and the other contestants, and it made her less nervous and wanted to dance really well.

 

[Buckalew11]

Don't worry Doris, I won't bite!

The trash part (at least in my opinion) is the fact that she said anything at all about Jon's employment. Her agreeing with Jay Leno that she is the only one working to support the kids (the actual words were "You said it."). Or pausing dramatically while saying "Ummmmmm" when Jay asked her what Jon does for a living. She degraded the father of her children on national tv and that is in poor taste. I'd say the same of Jon if he said that. Actually, I think I have said that about Jon! Anyhow, that's what I meant by her trashing Jon on Jay Leno.

Yes, I believe we both said that when he was interviewed while dating Hailey glassman and saying she was his soulmate (or whatever) and that he loved her more than he ver loved Kate.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Yes, I believe we both said that when he was interviewed while dating Hailey glassman and saying she was his soulmate (or whatever) and that he loved her more than he ver loved Kate.

Yup, I remember that too and it was BEYOND tacky! I was disgusted with Jon that he would say that and by doing so, hurt Kate. Totally uncalled for.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I saw Leno too. Another sleepless nite for me.
To add-Kate said she is saddened by the custody court case. She felt they worked out the custody between them, without the courts and now it is going to get ugly. And she felt it is so un-necessary.
Anyway-Jay asked Kate what dance she will be doing next-The Fox Trot.
Jay asked how much practice is she getting in, because of going back and forth. She told Jay, with the last dance-she practiced 2 days and got it. She also told Jay, before she went out on the dance floor Monday, she felt the love from the audience and the other contestants, and it made her less nervous and wanted to dance really well.

Only 2 days, or it took her only 2 days to memorize the steps?

 

[OhMari]

Only 2 days, or it took her only 2 days to memorize the steps?

Only 2 days of practice. It sounded like Saturday and Sunday, and it came together on Monday rehearsal.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Only 2 days, or it took her only 2 days to memorize the steps?

Only 2 days of practice. It sounded like Saturday and Sunday, and it came together on Monday rehearsal.

Holy cow! 2 days is pretty impressive then. I still can't imagine the stress of learning a new dance in only a few days time and then having to perform it live! I'd probably vomit.

 

[whitneyNC]

OK, thanks. I only asked, because obviously the review would be based on how the reader felt about Kate. I've seen other reviews, on a more 'positive Kate' site and it was a lot different. I agree that a cookbook would have been better, if only Kate cooked.
Thanks.

Edited to show this review, right next to the other one. Just like on this thread, I think it depends on if you like Kate or not:
Surprised by a Mother's Heart
This book surprises you with an inside look at Kate as a real person and tender-hearted mom. It's a perfect gift for Mother's Day or new moms or just other fans of Kate and the kids. Approach it with an open-mind and not tabloid headlines and you'll end up hugging your family and appreciating them more than ever.

Yeah, I flipped through it at Sam's and it definitley makes me appreciate my family...my mom!
It takes no dislike for Kate to know this book is a terrible idea. If you have kids and know how important privacy becomes during adolescence, you feel for them. And the glowing, five star review...come on. It was all opinion and fluff, not facts about the book. The featured review I posted...mostly facts about the book's contents. Terrible book, terrible idea. Shame on the publisher and Kate. I'm sure she is tied to a multi book deal, but honestly.

 

[DMRick]

There are other good reviews, so some do think the book was a good idea. As I said,most (if not all) of the nicer reviews show the book was purchased through Amazon. I haven't seen the book, I agree it's a bad idea if what I have seen so far is the main premise of the book. However, I do question if all of the bad reviews were from people who actually read the book. Why would someone bother to do a review on Amazon, if they haven't bought through them? Have all of these people actually read it, or flipped through it at Sam's or another place? I may disagree on the book being written (without having read it, though that may be unfair), but I also don't think, if it's true that GWOP is suggesting people bomb the book without reading it, that it's fair to say there are more bad reviews than good and the bad ones are the correct ones. While you and I may not like it, it does appear that some people who have actually read it, do.

Yeah, I flipped through it at Sam's and it definitley makes me appreciate my family...my mom!
It takes no dislike for Kate to know this book is a terrible idea. If you have kids and know how important privacy becomes during adolescence, you feel for them. And the glowing, five star review...come on. It was all opinion and fluff, not facts about the book. The featured review I posted...mostly facts about the book's contents. Terrible book, terrible idea. Shame on the publisher and Kate. I'm sure she is tied to a multi book deal, but honestly.

 

[Dee77]

The trash part (at least in my opinion) is the fact that she said anything at all about Jon's employment. Her agreeing with Jay Leno that she is the only one working to support the kids (the actual words were "You said it."). Or pausing dramatically while saying "Ummmmmm" when Jay asked her what Jon does for a living. She degraded the father of her children on national tv and that is in poor taste. I'd say the same of Jon if he said that. Actually, I think I have said that about Jon! Anyhow, that's what I meant by her trashing Jon on Jay Leno.

I agree that she trashed Jon on national TV especially since she didn't go into detail that her child support is being paid and that Jon is currently blocked from doing paid interviews, participating on TV shows etc. If he was flipping burgers at McDonald's she would complain that he can't provide for them. I also find it funny that she is shocked that the custody issue is being re-opened. If the situation was reversed and she was expected to pay a lot of money for child support and Jon was the one away from the kids for at least 3 days per week, making a small fortune, I would bet she would be all over the place looking to change things.

Jay Leno tapes in LA correct? Kate was on last night right, Thursday? Is she planning on going home at all this week? I hope her girls don't have any questions about her lovely book for a babysitter to have to answer. That could be awkward.

 

[Dee77]

Yeah, I flipped through it at Sam's and it definitley makes me appreciate my family...my mom!
It takes no dislike for Kate to know this book is a terrible idea. If you have kids and know how important privacy becomes during adolescence, you feel for them. And the glowing, five star review...come on. It was all opinion and fluff, not facts about the book. The featured review I posted...mostly facts about the book's contents. Terrible book, terrible idea. Shame on the publisher and Kate. I'm sure she is tied to a multi book deal, but honestly.

The review you posted looks to have been written by an intelligent, concerned person who appears to have read her earlier books. I think that the drastic change in tone and expression of the book is what even some of her fans will find fault with. For the rest of us who are not fans of hers, it seems to just reiterate her very lacking abilities in doing what's right for her children. Other than the excerpts that were made available prior to the release, I don't plan on buying let alone reading this book. I have seen enough.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The review you posted looks to have been written by an intelligent, concerned person who appears to have read her earlier books. I think that the drastic change in tone and expression of the book is what even some of her fans will find fault with. For the rest of us who are not fans of hers, it seems to just reiterate her very lacking abilities in doing what's right for her children. Other than the excerpts that were made available prior to the release, I don't plan on buying let alone reading this book. I have seen enough.

I haven't been able to stomach reading any of her books. The reviews (both positive and negative) on all of her books have been sufficient enough for me. Probably TMI actually.

While I support her rights to publish such words--I just cannot bring myself to read them. It is rather uncomfortable.

And I don't even dislike Kate.