Is this line cutting?

[a1tinkfans]

I guess I am generally in such a state of mind that if/when it has happened to me, it is barely noticeable to me....now, with a tour group or something it would likely come into my radar and I would not be a happy camper.
I guess I just try and go with the flow at Disney and if someone "cuts" ....without mowing me down, I generally would just look past it. I mean its Disney and the whole point of my trip is for ME to relax, not stress, I can easily do that at home

 

[Praying Colonel]

The over/under line on this thread being closed has been set at 7. Place your bets!

Sorry I missed it at the beginning--I would've taken the over but it's a little unfair to do so now. Teach me to be away from the boards for a few hours....

 

[BuckeyeGuy28]

But we are not at WDW right now. We are on a thread discussing the topic. If the question is asked, then IMO it is okay for those who think it's line cutting and those who don't to respond and explain why.

To me, breaking rules is not "civilized". Yes, there may be some good reasons to break the rules and an occassional person cutting in line won't concern me a bit. I won't say a thing and it won't upset me and we'll act cordial to the person even if we may think to ourselves that he/she is being rude.

However, if everyone became cavalier about it and decided that it was okay for one family member to wait in line while the rest of the family decided to hang out somewhere else until the "designated waiter" texted them to join them, things could get out of control! That's why Disney has rules about it and will sometimes enforce them.

but in a party of 5 people for a ride that will hold 6 would somebody really get upset about one person joining the group of 5 ahead? Were you really going to take that extra seat with people you don't know and are probably hot and smelly? Sometimes it's just not worth it to get worked up about.

I've seen people get bent out of shape about stuff like I described. They're just being spiteful--I'm not wasting their time, I'm not hurting them, they just want to piss on everybody's day because they're tired. Is it fair that someone waited less time than you? Maybe not, but what is complaining going to do about it?

 

[mjkacmom]

My kids must have super bladders bc we have never had to get out of line for a bathroom trip, or if we did we would all get out. If it is a long que we ask everyone to stop and go, and they usually do. Even my brother who has bladder issues and has had medical notes written for his dorm room being close to the bathroom has never had an isssue going before and then waiting in line.

We have been to numerous theme parks and the only place I did see security called was at Hershey Park was some teens cut the line (bc they were "meeting their parents". ) They were then escorted out of the ride.

If a parent asked me I would most likely help out but I still think it is wrong and it is line cutting.

I did make a loud comment once about a lady catching up and asked why didnt anybody ever go to the back of the line, she got mad, but everyone around me supported what I said.

Maybe you are lucky! Or maybe you only had 2 children, widely spaced, and not a bunch of little ones, with little bladders, and trying to get them all on the same pee schedule (and little enough that they aren't able to make themselves go on command).

Last time we were at WDW, my parents came, so we were a party of 9. I think it would be ruder to get a large party to exit a line.

 

[Day-Day]

While I do consider it by definition to be cutting, I don't let it bother me if one person is catching up with their family. It does annoy me somewhat when more people are joining than were ahead of you.

True story: we once had a few pre-teens who raced to get in front of us as we were just entering the line. Fine, they "beat us" into the line. Several minutes later, the other SEVENTEEN members of their party show up behind us and all started pushing past us rather than telling their two kids to move BACK to join them. That was one time I got a little perturbed, but I quickly went back to enjoying myself.

We had something similar. My daughter and I stopped at the line entrance to let two girls pass us as we waited for my wife and son directly behind them. A couple of minutes after getting in line behind these two girls, the girls parents and brothers and sisters and uncles and cousins all kept passing us by 2's and 3's to catch up to the two girls. this wasn't a big deal since we all rode the same train (Expedition Everest) anyway but it wasn't right.

Regarding the OP, what if the one person catching up to the family only takes up a space that would have been un-used had they not joined? (Maybe a ride where a group of 3 takes up two seats and a group of 4 takes up two seats so the additional person really hasn't affected the queue.) I don't think its okay but I shouldn't get upset...

 

[Mkrop]

Maybe you are lucky! Or maybe you only had 2 children, widely spaced, and not a bunch of little ones, with little bladders, and trying to get them all on the same pee schedule (and little enough that they aren't able to make themselves go on command).

Last time we were at WDW, my parents came, so we were a party of 9. I think it would be ruder to get a large party to exit a line.

I also have traveled as a huge group with many ages and generations and once again we did potty breaks, and everyone went and yet we all managed to get in line and stay in line together, even with a child with a bladder condition at the time (my brother).

 

[TheDisneyOutsider]

I don't think it's line cutting at all. People get split up from their family often and they have the right to catch up to them. Have you ever been going to get in line and a big crowd enters as well, half of you are ahead of people, half are behind, you should be allowed to pass in order to get to them. Whats the difference if one or two people pass you? What, you have to wait like a second longer. I say it is ok. At least I wouldn't care...

 

[Disneyhayes]

Eh, doesn't really bother me. I'm in the happiest place in the world.

The only time it did bother me was during the year of a million dreams. This hispanic family pushed their way in front of us on one of the big family ridesat blizzard beach. When we finally got to ride (there were like 20 of them in the family), there were the special people (forget now what they were called) handing out the special fast passes. If they hadn't cut in front of of us, we would have be on the receiving end of those goodies. Oh well, hope they had a nice trip! We had fun anyway!

Why was it necessary to point out their ethnicity? And seriously "there were like 20 of them". If there were really that many that pushing past a bunch of people in line I am sure someone would have said something. This is just flat out rude.

But to the OP - yes it's line cutting by definition. There's no "seat check" in line. However; I will look the other way to a single person or a person and their child. I would prefer to see them leave the line first and return but meh. Now if I see a bunch of people trying to "catch up" then I think I might say something or motion to a CM or just simply say as they are passing "it's gonna really suck when karma shows up in the form of baby spit up on you when you cut a child in line or when you sit in karma on your ride vehicle that you so desperatly need to get on before me and my family and then you have to leave to change or spend a rediculous amount of money on disney shorts."

 

[JarrothsMom]

One catching up to whole family...who cares...I never sweat the little things like some people do....whole family catching up to one....well that my friend can get under my skin a bit ! No one owes me a reason he/she was not in line with the others. My son is autistic and sometimes the FP lines are closed...welp guess what people...I DO "cut" while my family waits and its people like yall that make the remarks not knowing a THING your talking about.

So I try to do my best and not to judge when people "cut" or really much of anything. Because in all real I can assume I know whats up...and like most people (including myself if I dont watch it)...be CLUELESS

 

[Suellen]

I'm not quite sure how it is my problem that someone else's child needs "something" (a run. the potty, a snack, another ride) whatever that something is.

If my child says they don't want to ride and we get in line while someone stays back with them....? Too bad. They can ride it next time. Hard lesson to learn... but they won't hedge next time.

If they need the bathroom SOMEONE takes them and either skips the ride, gets back in line at the end OR does the really right thing and tells a CM. They usually give us a FP to come back.

If your kid has to potty every 30 mintues? Simple... don't get in lines longer than 20 minutes. Kid can't stand still to wait in line? They don't ride or meet the character.

All that being said... I would likely never say anything to someone "catching up" but I would chat about it with my husband ~ and my kids who want to know why others just "poke their way into the front of the line". But alas, as the 5 year old will tell you "life isn't fair"

 

[sdzman]

Get in line with your group and stay in line. We travel with a small child and we use the restrooms between waiting in lines. Why should I be allowed to come and go in a line because I have a kid with me? It's real simple, the line loads at the end period.

 

[Brian Noble]

Do you consider a family member trying to catch up to the rest of his/her family ahead in line cutting?

Yes, but I normally don't put up a big stink about it. It was exceptionally annoying in the Toy Story line, when every two minutes someone seemed to be pushing ahead.

My family enters the queue together. If one of us has fallen behind, we wait for them before we get in line, rather than insisting they catch up.

We also have the "bathroom rule": if anyone has to go, everyone has to go. Keeps the constant bathroom interruptions to t a minimum.

 

[Disneyhayes]

I'm not quite sure how it is my problem that someone else's child needs "something" (a run. the potty, a snack, another ride) whatever that something is.

If my child says they don't want to ride and we get in line while someone stays back with them....? Too bad. They can ride it next time. Hard lesson to learn... but they won't hedge next time.

I agree with telling the kid too bad. When I was younger my family all waited in line together even if some of us didn't want to ride or were unsure if we did. We then could decide when it was time to board if we changed our mind.

 

[mefordis]

This is for DonDraper: when are they starting up Mad Men again?

 

[magicbob]

At the risk of stirring the pot, there is another factor to consider. WDW is an international vacation destination. Different cultures have different "line etiquette." When I lived in Germany, I quickly learned that the line at the deli counter, bakery, etc. was much more loosely defined than I was accustomed to. When visiting London, we experienced very orderly queues where cutting was simply not done.

 

[JarrothsMom]

I would likely never say anything to someone "catching up" but I would chat about it with my husband ~ and my kids who want to know why others just "poke their way into the front of the line". But alas, as the 5 year old will tell you "life isn't fair"

Thats what I am talking about...your the people that I KNOW one day will feel what it is like to walk in my shoes. My child LOVES Disney...he is a VERY low func Autistic child...therefore I would LOVE to stand in line next to you...your the people that say stuff when he melts down...yet your also the people that "say stuff to your husband" when people in my situation try to do the best thing for our kids and stay out of line.

He has the right to ride stuff that is an hour wait...try not to judge so quickly...One day you too will know...you WILL have grandkids...and great grandkids...nieces and nephew...and autism is TOO common for it not to reach you one day. Most people would look at a child with autism and NEVER know...so they make those commits like you do to your kids and husband that are BLESSED to wait in line all together. but you know what...I dont even say a word to ppl like you...BUT it does hurt my other child's feelings...and yet I tell him...DONT judge them because they really dont know what they are talking about...QUIETLY!!!!!

 

[YodaGirl]

Wouldn't bother me but I know it appears to be a huge problem for most people around here...

As for the scenario of a young child needing the bathroom: I could take my kids to the bathroom before every line in Disney, every 20 mins, every hour, but they still need to go when they need to go. You can't force a child to go because it's a convenient time. As my 3 year old says all day long "It won't come out." Just because I want him to go before we get in the car, it won't make it so... So for anyone we may go around on a bathroom dash, here's my insincere apology!

I don't think it's line cutting at all. People get split up from their family often and they have the right to catch up to them. Have you ever been going to get in line and a big crowd enters as well, half of you are ahead of people, half are behind, you should be allowed to pass in order to get to them. Whats the difference if one or two people pass you? What, you have to wait like a second longer. I say it is ok. At least I wouldn't care...

Honestly, I've never noticed line cutters. Maybe I've seen them and I just don't give it a second thought?

I'd have no problem with a child having to go to the bathroom, a child not being able to wait in line, or a family member catching up with the rest of the family. An entire grand gathering catching up to the one family member in line? That might be annoying and enough to catch a second glance. Would I make a scene about it? No, because, once again, it's not that important to me. Besides, there tend to be plenty of people in line loudly complaining about everything that is going wrong in their day, the rudeness of CMs, or other guests. I'm sure one of them would say something.

 

[Disneyhayes]

Thats what I am talking about...your the people that I KNOW one day will feel what it is like to walk in my shoes. My child LOVES Disney...he is a VERY low func Autistic child...therefore I would LOVE to stand in line next to you...your the people that say stuff when he melts down...yet your also the people that "say stuff to your husband" when people in my situation try to do the best thing for our kids and stay out of line.

He has the right to ride stuff that is an hour wait...try not to judge so quickly...One day you too will know...you WILL have grandkids...and great grandkids...nieces and nephew...and autism is TOO common for it not to reach you one day. Most people would look at a child with autism and NEVER know...so they make those commits like you do to your kids and husband that are BLESSED to wait in line all together. but you know what...I dont even say a word to ppl like you...BUT it does hurt my other child's feelings...and yet I tell him...DONT judge them because they really dont know what they are talking about...QUIETLY!!!!!

Don't you think that you are being a little confrontational...there's no need for it. Like you said - people may not know your DSs situation and you sure as heck wouldn't want to wear it on a shirt or hold a sign saying it. Please remember that they do have cards - I can't remember what they are called - that are available to families such as yours so that you may enter a special line so your son isn't waiting in line for too long and getting uneasy. You can get them at the guest services desk. Maybe this could avoid an awkward convo and make your trip a little easier next time.

 

[Rip]

And why exactly is the person blocking the line cutter being a "blank"? Couldn't you just as easily say that the line cutter is being rude? There are always two sides to every coin. And if that line cutter just happens to be in a place where they can't jump over ropes or dive under railings, I'd say that their plan could very well be affected. Oh and btw, I'm perfectly capable of blocking a cutter AND having a supercalifragilistic day all at the same time.

Because in most cases the people asking to get by aren't being intentionally rude, and you'll end up looking like an *** for intentionally trying to keep them from rejoining their family. Sorry, but outside of a vocal slight majority on here, most people actually in the line don't usually care and in many cases would do the same thing, so you're the one that looks like a jerk. Didn't say it was right, just said it is.

And if it aggravates you enough to try physically blocking them, I rather doubt you're having as enjoyable a time as you would otherwise have been.

 

[Rip]

+1!

I don't let cutters ruin my Zip-a-dee-doo-dah day? Know why? I don't let them cut in line!

And to answer the inevitable question:

No, I have never physically assaulted another guest. I simply do not move out of the way to let them past me.

Then they'll go around you 99% of the time. If it bothers you enough to stop them, then, like I said earlier, it obviously is affecting your zip a dee whatever time.