Is the "morning after" pill considered abortion?

[chobie]

That's a different subject. The post asks if the morning after pill is abortion, and the answer is: it probably has that effect sometimes.

So its potentiallyy abortion, if one believes in life beginning at conception and one happened to have had a fertilized egg that was blocked form implantation because of that pill, which of course one would have no way of knowing anyway.

And you brought up the the tired "if its about viability than why not kill retarded babies" specious argument. That's called iinfanticide which is illegal.

 

[mick67]

So its potentially abortion, if one believes in life beginning at conception and one happened to have had a fertilized egg that was blocked form implantation because of that pill, which of course one would have no way of knowing anyway.

And you brought up the the tired "if its about viability than why not kill retarded babies" speicies argument. That's called infanticide which is illegal.

You seem very emotionally charged about this. This post is not about abortion vs choice. It doesn't matter when you think life begins. A woman is pregnant at conception. The definition of "abortion" is the "termination of a pregnancy." That holds true whether one is pro-choice or anti-abortion.

And I did not suggest killing retarded babies. I questioned whether or not a severly retarded baby could be mistaken for an "unviable fetus." It was a sincere question, because I did not know what constituted "viable" until you explained it.

 

[chobie]

You seem very emotionally charged about this. This post is not about abortion vs choice. It doesn't matter when you think life begins. A woman is pregnant at conception. The definition of "abortion" is the "termination of a pregnancy." That holds true whether one is pro-choice or anti-abortion.

And I did not suggest killing retarded babies. I questioned whether or not a severly retarded baby could be mistaken for an "unviable fetus." It was a sincere question, because I did not know what constituted "viable" until you explained it.

Is there something wrong with feeling emotional about an issue? You seem rather upset yourself that your retarded babies argument did not hold, btw.

 

[mick67]

First, there's nothing wrong with being passionate about something, but you seem to be going off topic.

Second, I never made a retarded babies argument. I asked a question. And, I wasn't talking about abortion vs choice, I was trying to stay on the topic of the post.

Third, if you must know, I'm pro-choice, but I'll take an anti-abortion position if you feel like having a debate!

 

[6_Time_Momma]

Really, I never would have guessed.

I do hide it well, don't I??

 

[chobie]

First, there's nothing wrong with being passionate about something, but you seem to be going off topic.

Second, I never made a retarded babies argument. I asked a question. And, I wasn't talking about abortion vs choice, I was trying to stay on the topic of the post.

Third, if you must know, I'm pro-choice, but I'll take an anti-abortion position if you feel like having a debate!

Retarded babies had nothing to do with the topic, the morning after pill can only effect potentially fertilized eggs, so your question did indeed go off topic. The topic is if it is an abortion, the only logical answer to that be: its a potential abortion, because it cannot be an actual abortion unless something was aborted and you have no way of knowing when you take a morning after pill.

 

[zaja]

Havn't read anybody elses answers to your question but here's mine. Morning after pill is absolutely abortion!

 

[mick67]

Retarded babies had nothing to do with the topic, the morning after pill can only effect potentially fertilized eggs, so your question did indeed go off topic. The topic is if it is an abortion, the only logical answer to that be: its a potential abortion, because it cannot be an actual abortion unless something was aborted and you have no way of knowing when you take a morning after pill.

Which is pretty much what I stated several posts back (I'd quote it here, but I don't know how). If a pregnancy is terminated due to taking the morning after pill, it is an abortion, whether the mother realizes it or not. Obviously no one would ever know, but the morning after pill does have the potency to end a pregnancy.

 

[chobie]

Which is pretty much what I stated several posts back (I'd quote it here, but I don't know how). If a pregnancy is terminated due to taking the morning after pill, it is an abortion, whether the mother realizes it or not. Obviously no one would ever know, but the morning after pill does have the potency to end a pregnancy.

Well at least your back on topic now.

 

[MrsKreamer]

You know what? Screw it. I feel like I'm talking to brick walls.

you're just not making any sense, that's all...

 

[Caradana]

My understanding of the morning after pill is that it can prevent uterine implantation of a fertilized egg. This happens all the time in nature - for thousands of possible reasons, and sometimes for no good reason - I would bet that hundreds of women on this board have once been pregnant by the "fertilized but not implanted" logic, and have had their periods normally and never known. Given that, my personal definition of pregnancy is when an egg has both fertilized and implanted. The morning after pill won't terminate an implanted pregnancy, or rather, we've never seen a confirmed medical case of it or any evidence of it in studies.

On the recommendation of the AMA (6 Time Momma, as a nurse, I have to think that you have a lot of respect for the AMA), I got a nine-refill scrip for the morning after pill from my GP, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it or to fill it for any of my friends. Prominent doctors nationwide agree that the morning after pill is safe and should be an over-the-counter medication.

 

[BethR]

My understanding of the morning after pill is that it can prevent uterine implantation of a fertilized egg. This happens all the time in nature - for thousands of possible reasons, and sometimes for no good reason - I would bet that hundreds of women on this board have once been pregnant by the "fertilized but not implanted" logic, and have had their periods normally and never known.

You are absolutely correct.

But the difference (to me and some others) lies in whether the abortion is intended or spontaneous (accident of nature or whatever.) With the morning after pill, the expulsion of a fertilized egg, due to the inability to implant, would be intended.

 

[6_Time_Momma]

On the recommendation of the AMA (6 Time Momma, as a nurse, I have to think that you have a lot of respect for the AMA), I got a nine-refill scrip for the morning after pill from my GP, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it or to fill it for any of my friends. Prominent doctors nationwide agree that the morning after pill is safe and should be an over-the-counter medication.

Respect and agreement are not the same thing.

 

[Alicnwondrln]

no your thinking of ru486

the morning after prevents pregnancy so the egg cant implant i believe

 

[bgirldeb]

Ok, let me explain. I can't believe this isn't obvious as it is.

ANYTHING that prevents pregnancy can be called abortion.

How could a condom be called an abortion?

 

[lilallybean]

BethR...I have to totally agree with you. I think that this is another form of abortion. It is just in my opinion the earliest time to kill the unwanted baby. I am a nurse and I know that the egg may not be implanted yet, but lets try to look at it with an analogy (spelling).

I AM going to disney...
1) It is months away-like the birth of the baby would be
2) I think about and make arrangements for it-like the persons playing should have before they started playing
3) I have to decide if it is something we can afford at this time-again should have been thought of before playing
4) I plan FAR ahead to be prepared-(BethR and I differ here some) get on the pill so that you are not ovulating, or buy some condoms to prevent fertilization
5) I will have great memories when I look back on our trip because I know as an adult I worked to make it a great event rather than 'winging it'-again PLAN AHEAD!!! Why would you wait on something so important and life changing???

Again just my opinion, but hey ya asked

 

[pw2pp]

It depends on when you believe Life actually begins......

If you believe that Life begins at CONCEPTION, then the Morning-After pill COULD potentially, if in fact the egg has been fertilized (however, you don't know this within the first 72 hours after intercourse), it COULD then be considered abortion.
However, if you believe that Life begins at IMPLANTATION, then the Morning-After Pill would not be considered abortion because once the egg implants, the Morning-after Pill is not effective.
At the current time, the Supreme Court of the United States has defined life to begin at CONCEPTION. So going by the Supreme Court's decision, yes the morning-after pill could potentially be abortion.


Then there is RU-486.... that is the "abortion pill" (but that is not apparently what the OP is referring to). RU-486 can be taken up to WEEKS after implantion and is in fact considerd "abortion" by all.

 

[Beth76]

Havn't read anybody elses answers to your question but here's mine. Morning after pill is absolutely abortion!

Well in no way is it "absolutely" abortion. I would imagine most of the time it is taken (at the very least 50%) there is no fertilized egg.

 

[disneychrista]

4) I plan FAR ahead to be prepared-(BethR and I differ here some) get on the pill so that you are not ovulating, or buy some condoms to prevent fertilization

And what happens if you go the condom route and for whatever reason it breaks. You KNOW you do not want a baby, for whatever reason. This is what the morning after pill was designed for.

I used the morning after pill once. The condom broke. And I am very glad that it was available.

 

[Danvers]

How could a condom be called an abortion?

Good point!