Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[PaulaSB12]

When you have been proven to lie about the minor accusations it is right to question the big revelations. Didn’t see my sister for 20 photos prove that a lie
My sister changed her name to Markle when I started dating Harry seen court document showing name change dated 1997 and she graduated as Markle in 2008
Archie denied his title of prince nor eligible under law set in 1917 so it could not be because of her and they deny him the title Earl not the palace
They made me take my name of his birth certificate. The birth certificates of George, Charlotte and Louis birth certificates all have their mothers full name on them do saying they palace made her do it is implausible
I got no help apart from her six month training

I didn’t know anything about the royal family nor did I google Harry picture of outside Buckingham palace friends saying she had lady Diana book and finding Freedom saying they both googled each other.

when do many petty lies have been shown how can she be reliable on anything she said. Also if they take the duke title from them she will still have a title but not one she will like she would be

PRINCESS HENRY OF WALES!

 

[Pea-n-Me]

When you have been proven to lie about the minor accusations it is right to question the big revelations. Didn’t see my sister for 20 photos prove that a lie
My sister changed her name to Markle when I started dating Harry seen court document showing name change dated 1997 and she graduated as Markle in 2008
Archie denied his title of prince nor eligible under law set in 1917 so it could not be because of her and they deny him the title Earl not the palace
They made me take my name of his birth certificate. The birth certificates of George, Charlotte and Louis birth certificates all have their mothers full name on them do saying they palace made her do it is implausible
I got no help apart from her six month training

I didn’t know anything about the royal family nor did I google Harry picture of outside Buckingham palace friends saying she had lady Diana book and finding Freedom saying they both googled each other.

when do many petty lies have been shown how can she be reliable on anything she said. Also if they take the duke title from them she will still have a title but not one she will like she would be

PRINCESS HENRY OF WALES!

Yeah, not sure how she’d feel about that title.

Spot on. And there are so many other examples!

 

[mamamia2005]

Could Oprah too have been gobsmacked by the news of Meghan’s suicidal feelings during her pregnancy, and was unprepared to do a full range of follow up questions that one would expect to ask if the interviewer was prepared? I have read quite a lot about the interview, since excerpts of the questions and answered are literally everywhere on the internet, and I think I read that Oprah started it off by clarifying that the questions weren’t shared before hand. Did Oprah also say no question was off the table? I can’t remember whether that was said or not.

Yes at the beginning she said they weren't being paid for the interview, they didn't know what was going to be asked, and no subject was off limits.

The other thing that has crossed my mind was the look on Meghan's face when Oprah made a comment about how the interview had been shocking / or there had been some shocking revelations.
Meghan looked very pleased.

 

[RamblingMad]

Yes at the beginning she said they weren't being paid for the interview, they didn't know what was going to be asked, and no subject was off limits.

The other thing that has crossed my mind was the look on Meghan's face when Oprah made a comment about how the interview had been shocking / or there had been some shocking revelations.
Meghan looked very pleased.

It was bad comedy.

 

[NotUrsula]

Full disclosure: I think that the Duchess does stretch the truth at times, and I think that there appears to be ample evidence that she seems to have trouble with functioning within heirarchical relationships, both upward and downward. I don't hate her; I don't actually have any emotional reaction to her at all, as I tend not to become emotionally invested in the lives of people I don't know personally. However, I do have a huge interest in global politics, and this situation has the potential to destroy a quasi-governmental institution that is one of the longest-lived in Western history. So, yeah, as an intellectual exercise, I'm interested to see how the various players perform in the game, and what the outcome will be.

I think that on the mental health question, one of the things it is very important to remember is that the condition she had at the time that she claims she was suicidal was not PPD (or as it is known in the UK, APD (antepartum depression)). That's not me playing armchair psychologist, that's simply an issues of dates: the incident happened during pregnancy, not after, and that's a very important distinction.

Second full disclosure: I developed depression during my first pregnancy. It's not the same thing as PPD, and not the least of that is how others react to it, even some medical professionals. It really doesn't matter who you try to tell, the reaction is always to try to minimize or dismiss it. Standard answers tend to be things like, "that's just the hormones talking, you're fine", or "nonsense, you're glowing", or memorably, from an older male OB that I saw when my own doc was out of town, "that's clinically impossible." What I found was that after a while I just quit trying to tell people how I was feeling because they literally did not want to hear it -- it upset their preconceived notions of pregnancy equaling joy. (And that has gotten worse rather than better as western society becomes more and more child-centric. In today's conventional wisdom, Baby's health ALWAYS trumps Mom's health whenever they are in conflict.) So, do I believe Megan Markle had trouble getting people around her to take her depression during pregnancy seriously? Yes, I do. I disbelieve several of the things she said during that interview, but on this point, I think she's telling the truth. However, that does not absolve her spouse and her physicians of the responsibility of helping her to get the treatment she needed, and it appears that they somehow eventually did, though perhaps that happened after she gave birth, unless her doctor noticed without being told, which is also a strong possibility.) I do not believe that if she specifically told someone she was feeling suicidal that treatment would have been entirely denied, for liability concerns if for no other reason, but I think that it is possible that certain treatment options might have been denied.

I think it is important to consider cultural differences in health care practice in this context. In the UK, pregnancy has very different standard medical protocols than in the US. If, as is quoted, the Duchess expressed a wish to "go somewhere" for treatment, as in a residential program, then I'm sure that would have been discouraged, not so much because of potential embarassment, but because even for the very wealthy, that isn't the norm for treatment of pregnancy-related or post-partum depression in the UK, except in cases of substance abuse or postpartum psychosis. That would definitely have been seen as a bad idea if there were non-residential options available.

 

[RamblingMad]

If she really had severe mental health issues come up, she should have been put on 72 hour watch and most likely given ketamine.

I don't know how much of this interview was acting.

 

[abdmom]

If we take what they say at face value - Meghan was very depressed, she didn't do any research on Harry or the Royal family, she was very hurt by conversations about skin color and for Harry - he didn't know how to access mental health care for his wife. Then they were helpless in the face of others being mean to them and not helping them. If they were so helpless with dealing with Harry's family, how would they have the knowhow to take care of deals worth a hundred million dollars? Why are they expecting corporations like Netflix and Spotify to give them millions and millions of dollars if they can't figure out how to make a doctor's appointment?

 

[snappy]

The other thing that has crossed my mind was the look on Meghan's face when Oprah made a comment about how the interview had been shocking / or there had been some shocking revelations.
Meghan looked very pleased.

I was unable to watch the interview as we were out of town, and Sunday night was our last evening so we were busy. Being away we didn’t record it either, and it really doesn’t matter as I said earlier, there are transcripts for all the world to see if they missed it like me. If Meghan had a very pleased look on her face after being told how shocking the revelations were, I am glad I skipped the video. Body language is a big tell.

 

[BayouQueen]

If we take what they say at face value - Meghan was very depressed, she didn't do any research on Harry or the Royal family, she was very hurt by conversations about skin color and for Harry - he didn't know how to access mental health care for his wife. Then they were helpless in the face of others being mean to them and not helping them. If they were so helpless with dealing with Harry's family, how would they have the knowhow to take care of deals worth a hundred million dollars? Why are they expecting corporations like Netflix and Spotify to give them millions and millions of dollars if they can't figure out how to make a doctor's appointment?

Well, sometimes it's a case of high highs and low lows. In our family we have sadly had to deal with this -- suicidal jags and then on to ball-of-fire energy and grandiose plans -- some of which are accomplished, some not. It's really hard to see a loved one go through so much emotional upheaval.
In no way am I saying Meghan Markle has the same condition, as I'm not a doctor and it took years of professional help to get a proper diagnosis for said relative and at least some treatment plan, but I'm just saying it's possible for a person to be virtually nonfunctioning one day and then to be able to get very busy the next.

 

[TheIncredibles!]

Questioning somebody's mental health is really just beyond for me. People that question if somebody is lying or not when it comes to depression should be doing some self reflection.

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

Questioning somebody's mental health is really just beyond for me. People that question if somebody is lying or not when it comes to depression should be doing some self reflection.

It's hard not to question it when she had so many resources available yet, said she made her husband aware all the while he has a charity for mental health awareness, yet neither of them were able to figure out how to get her help? That just makes no sense at all to me. The woman was pregnant and obviously seeing a doctor on a regular basis. Why didn't she say anything to her ob? Meanwhile, her other comments in the interview have been proven to be lies or very seriously misleading so maybe THAT is why people think her claims of depression and suicidal thoughts may be made up or, at the very least, greatly exaggerated.

 

[lovesmurfs]

Yes at the beginning she said they weren't being paid for the interview, they didn't know what was going to be asked, and no subject was off limits.

The other thing that has crossed my mind was the look on Meghan's face when Oprah made a comment about how the interview had been shocking / or there had been some shocking revelations.
Meghan looked very pleased.

She said they weren't being paid for the interview, but nothing was said as to whether Oprah donated to their foundation.

I approached the show with an open mind. I really liked Meghan on Suits. However, she had a very Lady Tremaine "smile" throughout the interview. I found it very difficult to believe her. Her wording when she was talking about her wanting to end it all was so vague and seemed very practiced. Maybe I shouldn't be questioning it, but it just rang false for me.

 

[BayouQueen]

There's been a lot of discussion of Meghan's mom and whether she could have helped.
Not sure about that, but I was wondering what she thinks of her daughter's allegations of racism.
Watching the wedding, it really looked like her mom was comfortable and there was a lot of film of her chatting with Prince Charles; and, of course, he walked Meghan down the aisle and said he was honored to do so.
We all know a mother has no control over an adult daughter, but I was just musing over whether her perception was the same or different.

 

[VandVsmama]

If we take what they say at face value - Meghan was very depressed, she didn't do any research on Harry or the Royal family, she was very hurt by conversations about skin color and for Harry - he didn't know how to access mental health care for his wife. Then they were helpless in the face of others being mean to them and not helping them. If they were so helpless with dealing with Harry's family, how would they have the knowhow to take care of deals worth a hundred million dollars? Why are they expecting corporations like Netflix and Spotify to give them millions and millions of dollars if they can't figure out how to make a doctor's appointment?

Very valid point.

 

[bcla]

She said they weren't being paid for the interview, but nothing was said as to whether Oprah donated to their foundation.

The reporting has been that no direct payments have been made to them or to their foundation from the production team.

https://www.eonline.com/news/124562...-markle-and-prince-harry-s-tell-all-interview​

The interview-payment remark followed a Wall Street Journal report that CBS paid a licensing fee of between $7 million and $9 million to air the March 7 special. A spokesperson for Meghan and Harry told the publication they are not being compensated for the interview, and a publicist for Oprah's Harpo Productions told E! News that no payment was made to the couple or their foundation.​

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

Is it better or worse that they greatly exaggerated, told half truths, and flat out lies and didn't even get paid for it? Of course, I am sure they are getting paid somehow...maybe not in cash, but the publicity alone will make them millions with all of their little ventures.

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

Meghan's investment...at least one of them.

https://people.com/royals/meghan-markles-first-business-venture-oprah-winfrey/
Oh look - who does she send a basket to - her good buddy, OPRAH!! Oprah, of course, instagrams and promotes and so all of her lemmings are now purchasing this product and making money for Meghan. They are so in cahoots, it's ridiculous. I just can't get how people are so blind not to see this whole set up.

 

[JaxDad]

Meghan's investment...at least one of them.

https://people.com/royals/meghan-markles-first-business-venture-oprah-winfrey/
Oh look - who does she send a basket to - her good buddy, OPRAH!! Oprah, of course, instagrams and promotes and so all of her lemmings are now purchasing this product and making money for Meghan. They are so in cahoots, it's ridiculous. I just can't get how people are so blind not to see this whole set up.

I want to know more about the “magical plants to manage stress.”

 

[snappy]

My husband drinks coffee and chicory, the coffee he drank while growing up in New Orleans. He claims it is pretty magical. Maybe I will send Oprah a bag to drink “morning and night.”

 

[sasywtch]

The reporting has been that no direct payments have been made to them or to their foundation from the production team.

https://www.eonline.com/news/124562...-markle-and-prince-harry-s-tell-all-interview​

The interview-payment remark followed a Wall Street Journal report that CBS paid a licensing fee of between $7 million and $9 million to air the March 7 special. A spokesperson for Meghan and Harry told the publication they are not being compensated for the interview, and a publicist for Oprah's Harpo Productions told E! News that no payment was made to the couple or their foundation.​

Financial people have stated that the advertising they received on their foundation (how many times did Oprah mention Archewell) was worth millions in ad dollars. Also, as I said previously, Oprah has done instagram promoting Meghan's vegan coffee line. Other ways to get paid then getting a paycheck.