Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[bcla]

My husband drinks coffee and chicory, the coffee he drank while growing up in New Orleans. He claims it is pretty magical. Maybe I will send Oprah a bag to drink “morning and night.”

There was some instant coffee brand that had chicory in it to mellow the flavor. Looked it up. The brand name was "Sunrise". I've seen Cafe du Monde coffee with chicory. But I'd think Oprah could afford whatever kind of coffee she wants.

 

[bcla]

Financial people have stated that the advertising they received on their foundation (how many times did Oprah mention Archewell) was worth millions in ad dollars. Also, as I said previously, Oprah has done instagram promoting Meghan's vegan coffee line. Other ways to get paid then getting a paycheck.

I totally get how that the interview was a brand-building exercise. However, there have been several claims that Harpo Productions directly paid them for the interview.

 

[Karin1984]

Questioning somebody's mental health is really just beyond for me. People that question if somebody is lying or not when it comes to depression should be doing some self reflection.

I think we have to make the distinction between not believing she has mental health problems and not believing the story she tells about getting help.

I do believe that she had mental problems as in difficulty adjusting to a new country, culture and hierarchy, in addition to being pregnant and getting bad press. I do not believe her story about not being able to get help.

But as for not believing she has mental problems: Most people will think 'people do not lie about mental health problems'. No one wants to not believe people who say they have endured something terrible, but we do know it happens.
Research (2017, De Zutter) gives 8 reasons why people make a false accusations of rape. Some of below are also relevant to lie about other serious things, like mental health:

• Material gain: to receive money, professional promotion or other material benefits.
• Producing an alibi: a false allegation is used to cover up other behaviour, such as being late or absent to an appointment.
• Revenge: to retaliate against a disliked person by damaging the reputation, freedom or finances.
• Attention: an attempt to receive any kind of attention, positive or negative, by anyone.
• Sympathy: a special kind of attention-seeking whereby the complainant tries to improve a personal relationship with a specific individual.
• 'A disturbed mental state'; this may include false memories ("sexual hallucinations") or pathologic lying.
• Relabeling: consensual sex is relabeled 'rape' to the police, because of its 'disappointing or shameful character'. De Zutter et al. argue that a distinction should be made between some acts during a consensual sexual encounter that a participant did not want or had no desire to engage in but nonetheless gave consent to (e.g., to please their partner) on the one hand, and rape (nonconsensual sex) on the other, but that many lay people and even some scholars do not make this distinction and confuse the two. It is often when accounts of such 'unwanted consensual sex' are told to friends and family that the latter interpret it as rape, and put the complainant under pressure to file an allegation.
• Regret: after having had consensual sex, a complainant experiences negative feelings such as disgust, shame, and sorrow; when others notice this and ask about the source of these negative feelings, they are prone to view the encounter as rape and put the complainant under pressure to file an allegation.

(This is the order from Wiki, I didn't change it)

 

[snappy]

There was some instant coffee brand that had chicory in it to mellow the flavor. Looked it up. The brand name was "Sunrise". I've seen Cafe du Monde coffee with chicory. But I'd think Oprah could afford whatever kind of coffee she wants.

We buy Union coffee and chicory. Easy to spot because it is in a green bag. It’s not easy to find here so we pick up a bunch of bags whenever we are down in New Orleans. I was able to order it delivered from Walmart earlier during the pandemic but one of the bags opened up in transit, and it was a big mess. Shame to waste such a precious item, lol.

I think chicory has been used for a very long time, when coffee was precious, people used chicory to helped extend the coffee. It would be very unlikely that coffee and chicory would be up Oprah’s alley.

 

[snappy]

I totally get how that the interview was a brand-building exercise. However, there have been several claims that Harpo Productions directly paid them for the interview.

it wouldn’t surprise me if money changed hands, perhaps in the context of some larger deal between Oprah’s conglomerate and H&M.

do you happen to have a link re: the claims that harpo productions paid them for the interview?

 

[snappy]

I think we have to make the distinction between not believing she has mental health problems and not believing the story she tells about getting help.

Important distinction. Thanks for making this point.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Meghan's investment...at least one of them.

https://people.com/royals/meghan-markles-first-business-venture-oprah-winfrey/
Oh look - who does she send a basket to - her good buddy, OPRAH!! Oprah, of course, instagrams and promotes and so all of her lemmings are now purchasing this product and making money for Meghan. They are so in cahoots, it's ridiculous. I just can't get how people are so blind not to see this whole set up.

Shocking, I say! Shocking!!

 

[TLSnell1981]

New polls out showing H&M's popularity at their lowest point EVER with the Queen's support unwavering.. *ho hum*

 

[RamblingMad]

If we take what they say at face value - Meghan was very depressed, she didn't do any research on Harry or the Royal family, she was very hurt by conversations about skin color and for Harry - he didn't know how to access mental health care for his wife. Then they were helpless in the face of others being mean to them and not helping them. If they were so helpless with dealing with Harry's family, how would they have the knowhow to take care of deals worth a hundred million dollars? Why are they expecting corporations like Netflix and Spotify to give them millions and millions of dollars if they can't figure out how to make a doctor's appointment?

Christopher Eccleston (former Doctor Who actor) has been really forthcoming about his mental health challenges. He even wrote a book about it, and he checked himself into a hospital for care.

I don't know what to believe about Meghan.

This comes across to me as a poorly conceived stunt for views.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Christopher Eccleston (former Doctor Who actor) has been really forthcoming about his mental health challenges. He even wrote a book about it, and he checked himself into a hospital for care.

I don't know what to believe about Meghan.

This comes across to me as a poorly conceived stunt for views.

I've always been an advocate for mental health care and removing the stigmas attached. I do not like seeing it used to promote ones self...to play victim.

 

[BayouQueen]

I think we have to make the distinction between not believing she has mental health problems and not believing the story she tells about getting help.

I do believe that she had mental problems as in difficulty adjusting to a new country, culture and hierarchy, in addition to being pregnant and getting bad press. I do not believe her story about not being able to get help.

But as for not believing she has mental problems: Most people will think 'people do not lie about mental health problems'. No one wants to not believe people who say they have endured something terrible, but we do know it happens.
Research (2017, De Zutter) gives 8 reasons why people make a false accusations of rape. Some of below are also relevant to lie about other serious things, like mental health:

• Material gain: to receive money, professional promotion or other material benefits.
• Producing an alibi: a false allegation is used to cover up other behaviour, such as being late or absent to an appointment.
• Revenge: to retaliate against a disliked person by damaging the reputation, freedom or finances.
• Attention: an attempt to receive any kind of attention, positive or negative, by anyone.
• Sympathy: a special kind of attention-seeking whereby the complainant tries to improve a personal relationship with a specific individual.
• 'A disturbed mental state'; this may include false memories ("sexual hallucinations") or pathologic lying.
• Relabeling: consensual sex is relabeled 'rape' to the police, because of its 'disappointing or shameful character'. De Zutter et al. argue that a distinction should be made between some acts during a consensual sexual encounter that a participant did not want or had no desire to engage in but nonetheless gave consent to (e.g., to please their partner) on the one hand, and rape (nonconsensual sex) on the other, but that many lay people and even some scholars do not make this distinction and confuse the two. It is often when accounts of such 'unwanted consensual sex' are told to friends and family that the latter interpret it as rape, and put the complainant under pressure to file an allegation.
• Regret: after having had consensual sex, a complainant experiences negative feelings such as disgust, shame, and sorrow; when others notice this and ask about the source of these negative feelings, they are prone to view the encounter as rape and put the complainant under pressure to file an allegation.

(This is the order from Wiki, I didn't change it)

In this case we could add to the list that if William can be damaged enough, Meghan could be Queen someday!

Now THAT would get back at Kate about the tights!

 

[snappy]

In this case we could add to the list that if William can be damaged enough, Meghan could be Queen someday!

Now THAT would get back at Kate about the tights!

But Kate sent her flowers, wasn’t that enough, lol?

 

[bcla]

it wouldn’t surprise me if money changed hands, perhaps in the context of some larger deal between Oprah’s conglomerate and H&M.

do you happen to have a link re: the claims that harpo productions paid them for the interview?

I'm saying that anyone in an official position has denied that there was any direct payment to Harry and Meghan in exchange for the interview. But there have been a lot of claims by other people that they must have been paid, although without anything other than speculation.

 

[mamamia2005]

Meghan has now lodged a formal complaint to OFCOM ( the government approved regulatory body for broadcasting here in the UK) about Piers Morgan. She had previously complained to ITV, the TV channel that the good morning Britain programme is on, that Piers Morgan left earlier this week.
Meghan Markle: Duchess of Sussex complains to Ofcom about Piers Morgan's comments on her Oprah interview | UK News | Sky News

 

[RamblingMad]

I'm saying that anyone in an official position has denied that there was any direct payment to Harry and Meghan in exchange for the interview. But there have been a lot of claims by other people that they must have been paid, although without anything other than speculation.

Why would you go on TV in front of Oprah and dish on your family for free? This interview had 17 million viewers. The network made a lot of money.

 

[snappy]

Meghan has now lodged a formal complaint to OFCOM ( the government approved regulatory body for broadcasting here in the UK) about Piers Morgan. She had previously complained to ITV, the TV channel that the good morning Britain programme is on, that Piers Morgan left earlier this week.
Meghan Markle: Duchess of Sussex complains to Ofcom about Piers Morgan's comments on her Oprah interview | UK News | Sky News

The gloves are coming off.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The gloves are coming off.

Greasing her palms wanting a pay off?

 

[TLSnell1981]

In this case we could add to the list that if William can be damaged enough, Meghan could be Queen someday!

Now THAT would get back at Kate about the tights!

On some bizarre world that thought crossed my mind but the monarchy would dissolve before that happened IMO

Those two are extremely unpopular... Meghan even more so than Harry

 

[snappy]

Greasing her palms wanting a pay off?

I was thinking she was sending her attorneys in to torpedo Piers Morgan but you may be right.

Or maybe she’s showing off her new nail color

 

[bcla]

Why would you go on TV in front of Oprah and dish on your family for free? This interview had 17 million viewers. The network made a lot of money.

Still - all parties claim that they simply didn't receive any payment for the interview. That doesn't mean that there isn't a way for them to monetize the interview.