Here now, OMG buses.

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[Sammie]

We took young kids to Disney World for years only using a very small umbrella type stroller, no need to bring a small car for them to ride in.

As to being ready to the board the bus when it pulled in, yes we did that too. Never would have I have expected a bus to wait for me to get my child out of the stroller, fold it up, then load the bus. We were ready to load when it pulled in. We left them in the stroller while we waited on the bus, but as soon as we saw it approaching, we had them out and ready to go and in line.

And obviously some of the Disney bus drivers agree because on our last trip we left several people at the bus stop still folding up strollers as we drove off.

As to tried, asleep, over stimulated, that is what naps are for, that is what going back to the hotel before that occurs is for.

 

[KellyNY]

Thanks You probaby wouldn't agree with me. I got angry and lost it. I sorta blacked out.

You are welcome!

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

We took young kids to Disney World for years only using a very small umbrella type stroller, no need to bring a small car for them to ride in.

As to being ready to the board the bus when it pulled in, yes we did that too. Never would have I have expected a bus to wait for me to get my child out of the stroller, fold it up, then load the bus. We were ready to load when it pulled in.

And obviously some of the Disney bus drivers agree because on our last trip we left several people at the bus stop still folding up strollers as we drove off. :drive:

HAHA That is hilarious!

 

[20yBWDW]

We took young kids to Disney World for years only using a very small umbrella type stroller, no need to bring a small car for them to ride in.

As to being ready to the board the bus when it pulled in, yes we did that too. Never would have I have expected a bus to wait for me to get my child out of the stroller, fold it up, then load the bus. We were ready to load when it pulled in.

And obviously some of the Disney bus drivers agree because on our last trip we left several people at the bus stop still folding up strollers as we drove off.

As to tried, asleep, over stimulated, that is what naps are for, that is what going back to the hotel before that occurs is for.

There is nothing you said here that we did not do. We do use an umbrella stroller. Most of the time, our plan of taking the child out and folding the stroller when we saw the bus approaching resulted in being ready to board without any delay. We took mid-day naps. We did our best to take the kids back before their usual bedtime. But being Disney first-timers and having a few people in the party with health issues that sometimes resulted in last-minute issues, we sometimes got delayed and hit the back luck of the buses, and had tired kids at the bus stop.

Now, I supposed that the thirty seconds someone had to wait for us that time that we had an unexpected glitch in folding the stroller was not worth my kids seeing a parade one time that whole week, but it was worth it to us. And given how many people I graciously waited for that week to take pictures, or tie their shoe, or decide which food booth to stop for, I'm not going to lose sleep about making people wait less than a minute twice all week. If you have a problem with it, you do not sound like a very compassionate person.

 

[jhaig]

So much frustration could be avoided if everyone simply took the time to be aware of those around them.

It's really disheartening to hear the stories of folks who get grief from the ECVs. That's why my mom won't go to Disney with me...she would need one and she's afraid she'll be an inconvenience to us and everyone around her.

The people that really need them are balanced out by the people I saw on my last trip. This guy in an ECV (a rather healthy looking gent to the naked eye) pulled up to the bus, PICKED UP HIS ECV, and plopped it down inside the bus while 10 of his family members piled on behind him. Not judging, but c'mon, really?

You mom shouldn't worry about other people's hang-ups. Take her with you and let her enjoy WDW just like everyone else.

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

There is nothing you said here that we did not do. We do use an umbrella stroller. Most of the time, our plan of taking the child out and folding the stroller when we saw the bus approaching resulted in being ready to board without any delay. We took mid-day naps. We did our best to take the kids back before their usual bedtime. But being Disney first-timers and having a few people in the party with health issues that sometimes resulted in last-minute issues, we sometimes got delayed and hit the back luck of the buses, and had tired kids at the bus stop.

Now, I supposed that the thirty seconds someone had to wait for us that time that we had an unexpected glitch in folding the stroller was not worth my kids seeing a parade one time that whole week, but it was worth it to us. And given how many people I graciously waited for that week to take pictures, or tie their shoe, or decide which food booth to stop for, I'm not going to lose sleep about making people wait less than a minute twice all week. If you have a problem with it, you do not sound like a very compassionate person.

For most you are right the 30 seconds is no big deal but then you have the others. The ones with strollers the size of a car that take forever to unpack and close up. The ones that are so big they take up valuable space on the bus. Your right no one should be overly bothered by the 3-5 minutes we get held up but it is the point that some people are so inconsiderate they wait until the doors knowing that it is going to take a few minutes to do what needs to be done. Why is their time or their child’s comfort more important than my child? Get what I am going for?

 

[Glennie5]

Now, I supposed that the thirty seconds someone had to wait for us that time that we had an unexpected glitch in folding the stroller was not worth my kids seeing a parade one time that whole week, but it was worth it to us. And given how many people I graciously waited for that week to take pictures, or tie their shoe, or decide which food booth to stop for, I'm not going to lose sleep about making people wait less than a minute twice all week. If you have a problem with it, you do not sound like a very compassionate person.

You make a very good point here. We all have to make exceptions through out the day.

 

[canoe86]

( the following post is not a criticism of anyone)

I'm actually very surprised more people don't take cabs. Now, I can understand the person who travels to Disney multiple times a year, but the once a year or every other year person, time is important.

Now we drive, but when we flew, it took me about 2 times waiting for a bus to realize the economics of bus riding wasn't very good. I was spending a lot of money to be on vacation, so at that point what is $40 or so a day, to save and hour or more of bus riding?
Figure, if you have 7 days at Disney, and spend an hour and a half per day waiting and riding buses, that is 10.5 hours of vacation. Its like a whole day. I just figured the extra $300 on cabs to save 7 or so hours of travel was worth it.

 

[lynypixie]

Folding two umbrella strollers takes more time than folding my double stroller. So yes, I will be the devil in person and bring my sit and stand.

Seriously, it reminds me of the complains I've seen on trip advisors that the nemo pool had too many kids in it and was noisy.

If you don't want to see families, don't go to Disney World!

 

[Sammie]

There is nothing you said here that we did not do. We do use an umbrella stroller. Most of the time, our plan of taking the child out and folding the stroller when we saw the bus approaching resulted in being ready to board without any delay. We took mid-day naps. We did our best to take the kids back before their usual bedtime. But being Disney first-timers and having a few people in the party with health issues that sometimes resulted in last-minute issues, we sometimes got delayed and hit the back luck of the buses, and had tired kids at the bus stop.

Now, I supposed that the thirty seconds someone had to wait for us that time that we had an unexpected glitch in folding the stroller was not worth my kids seeing a parade one time that whole week, but it was worth it to us. And given how many people I graciously waited for that week to take pictures, or tie their shoe, or decide which food booth to stop for, I'm not going to lose sleep about making people wait less than a minute twice all week. If you have a problem with it, you do not sound like a very compassionate person.

Good grief, get over yourself, if you miss a parade because you miss one bus, then poor planning on your part. If you were able to get on in a minute or less do you seriously think anyone cared. That is not what anyone is talking about. I don't even know why are you arguing the point. We are talking about people that sit there and talk to each other, ignore the fact the bus has even arrived, take forever to fold up a stroller and then saunter over to the bus, not caring one bit that they are holding up the bus.

I had my kids out of strollers and in line for years, and why; because I cared about others not having to wait for me to get my act together and in fact many times helped others that did not.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

We actually got lectured by the bus driver for allowing our son to walk over and see the other parent. He got on the loudspeaker and told us that if he walked again, he would pull the bus over to the side of the highway.

Huh, interesting. Well, I guess I can understand that, but holy cow, there was a full bus full of very angry people because of that one child.

 

[Missyrose]

Folding two umbrella strollers takes more time than folding my double stroller. So yes, I will be the devil in person and bring my sit and stand.

Seriously, it reminds me of the complains I've seen on trip advisors that the nemo pool had too many kids in it and was noisy.

If you don't want to see families, don't go to Disney World!

No one anywhere in this thread has said ANYTHING about not wanting to see families at Disney World. Those of us who travel as just adults know perfectly well that the larger percentage of visitors are families with small children.

And like Sammie said, most of the families seem prepared to fold their strollers and are ready to get on the bus as soon as the doors open. It's just the ones that swear that their circumstance is the absolute exception and therefore must be tolerated, no matter how many people (other families with small children included) are affected, are the ones that create the mst frustration. And everyone knows that heat + Disney exhaustion + frustration will typically result in pretty cranky people.

 

[lynypixie]

One thing, that might help, if you have a small one, is to bring an ergo carrier. It's what I am going to do for my 2 years old. If she sleeps, I won't even have to wake her up, and the other two can sit on the ground while we fold the monster.
(seriously, by double is smaller than most simples)

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

Folding two umbrella strollers takes more time than folding my double stroller. So yes, I will be the devil in person and bring my sit and stand.Seriously, it reminds me of the complains I've seen on trip advisors that the nemo pool had too many kids in it and was noisy.

If you don't want to see families, don't go to Disney World!

As long as you don't wait until you hit the bus doors to fold it I am sure no one really would care!

 

[Sammie]

No one anywhere in this thread has said ANYTHING about not wanting to see families at Disney World. Those of us who travel as just adults know perfectly well that the larger percentage of visitors are families with small children.

And like Sammie said, most of the families seem prepared to fold their strollers and are ready to get on the bus as soon as the doors open. It's just the ones that swear that their circumstance is the absolute exception and therefore must be tolerated, no matter how many people (other families with small children included) are affected, are the ones that create the mst frustration. And everyone knows that heat + Disney exhaustion + frustration will typically result in pretty cranky people.

Thank you,

 

[mad madam mim78]

Good grief, get over yourself, if you miss a parade because you miss one bus, then poor planning on your part. If you were able to get on in a minute or less do you seriously think anyone cared. That is not anyone is talking about. I don't even know why are you arguing the point.

I had my kids out of strollers and in line for years, and why; because I cared about others not having to wait for me to get my act together.

We scare..because we care.

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

We scare..because we care.

I am pretty sure that you are the only one that finds your rude comments funny!

 

[mad madam mim78]

I am pretty sure that you are the only one that finds your rude comments funny!

Well I'm the only person that matters remember.

 

[20yBWDW]

Good grief, get over yourself, if you miss a parade because you miss one bus, then poor planning on your part.

I had my kids out of strollers and in line for years, and why; because I cared about others not having to wait for me to get my act together.

Nobody was missing a parade for missing a bus. You said we should have planned to be back earlier to avoid tired kids. We went to one 7 PM MSEP, and would have been back at the hotel by the kids' bedtime except that a member of the party had some health issues, and we did not get to the bus stop by 8:30 so we had a tired child.

I'm sure you are perfect in every way, and that your parenting is perfect in every way. My point is that I act with consideration of others, but I try to balance it with the needs and desires of my own family. 3/4 of the time, I err on the side of being considerate of others, but sometimes, my attempt to balance fails and inconveniences someone else in small ways. You and others on this thread have acted like those of us who do not go to extremes to 100% guarantee that we do not inconvenience others must be 100% selfish.

We all inconvenience others in small ways. No matter how perfect you may believe you are, there are times when someone else is delayed or has to expend a little more effort because you are there. It's sad how many people cannot muster a little compassion for a parent with small children who delays them by 30 seconds. I am not saying a parent should not give any consideration to those around them. Planning to delay others is not at all acceptable to me. But taking an approach that is 90% likely to not delay others, and will result in more calm and controlled children, with less annoyance to others in line is not in the same camp. I am saying that people that try deserve a little compassion when the plan goes awry.

The people who got annoyed at us when we had a glitch with the stroller (after we had passed on the first bus to avoid taking our tired kids on a standing room only bus, because we had already learned how much that inconvenienced others) walked into the line smoking cigarettes. We had a good laugh over the hypocrisy--they thought it acceptable to stand in the line smoking cigarettes, and we just smiled at them, but they got mad because it took us an extra minute to fold the stroller. But I see some of that on the disboards--if it inconveniences me, it is completely unacceptable, but if it inconveniences others to benefit me, it should be obligatory.

Parents should do their best to be considerate of others, but expecting parents to put all of their own needs/convenience aside to avoid taking a chance of delaying people for 30 seconds turns it into a situation where the person who demands there is no chance of them being delayed 30 seconds is the one who seems entitled.