Here now, OMG buses.

Of course the rules are posted but far too many people believe that those rules do not apply to them or their snowflakes.

The signs at the bus stops said strollers had to be folded on the bus. It did not say that strollers had to be folded in the line. And it never crossed my mind that my fellow bus riders would rather take the chance of my kid getting hit by a bus/listen to my attempts to convince a 2-year-old to stand still in line for an unknown amount of time than wait 30-40 seconds while I remove the child and fold the stroller as the bus is pulling to the curb.

The complaints from people who do not have to deal with strollers, small children, disabilities, scooters, etc, are quite sad, IMO. The people whose vacations are already the easiest are this put out by a minute or two delay by people for whom the vacation is already going to be more stressful? It really says more about your character than it does about the manners of some flustered mom who is waiting until the last minute to disrupt their sleeping infant and then takes longer than usual to fold up a stroller in front of glaring eyes.
 
The signs at the bus stops said strollers had to be folded on the bus. It did not say that strollers had to be folded in the line. And it never crossed my mind that my fellow bus riders would rather take the chance of my kid getting hit by a bus/listen to my attempts to convince a 2-year-old to stand still in line for an unknown amount of time than wait 30-40 seconds while I remove the child and fold the stroller as the bus is pulling to the curb.

The complaints from people who do not have to deal with strollers, small children, disabilities, scooters, etc, are quite sad, IMO. The people whose vacations are already the easiest are this put out by a minute or two delay by people for whom the vacation is already going to be more stressful? It really says more about your character than it does about the manners of some flustered mom who is waiting until the last minute to disrupt their sleeping infant and then takes longer than usual to fold up a stroller in front of glaring eyes.

At most resorts, you can see the bus coming. Unless you are the only ones waiting for the bus, it should not take you very long to fold the stroller.
 
The signs at the bus stops said strollers had to be folded on the bus. It did not say that strollers had to be folded in the line. And it never crossed my mind that my fellow bus riders would rather take the chance of my kid getting hit by a bus/listen to my attempts to convince a 2-year-old to stand still in line for an unknown amount of time than wait 30-40 seconds while I remove the child and fold the stroller as the bus is pulling to the curb.

The complaints from people who do not have to deal with strollers, small children, disabilities, scooters, etc, are quite sad, IMO. The people whose vacations are already the easiest are this put out by a minute or two delay by people for whom the vacation is already going to be more stressful? It really says more about your character than it does about the manners of some flustered mom who is waiting until the last minute to disrupt their sleeping infant and then takes longer than usual to fold up a stroller in front of glaring eyes.

Well said.
 
The complaints from people who do not have to deal with strollers, small children, disabilities, scooters, etc, are quite sad, IMO. The people whose vacations are already the easiest are this put out by a minute or two delay by people for whom the vacation is already going to be more stressful? It really says more about your character than it does about the manners of some flustered mom who is waiting until the last minute to disrupt their sleeping infant and then takes longer than usual to fold up a stroller in front of glaring eyes.

You nailed it on the head...I couldnt agree more.
 

The complaints from people who do not have to deal with strollers, small children, disabilities, scooters, etc, are quite sad, IMO. The people whose vacations are already the easiest are this put out by a minute or two delay by people for whom the vacation is already going to be more stressful? It really says more about your character than it does about the manners of some flustered mom who is waiting until the last minute to disrupt their sleeping infant and then takes longer than usual to fold up a stroller in front of glaring eyes.


This sums it up. I don't mind the strollers and ECVs as long as I am not being clipped by them. I am thankful that I still don't have to use an ECV and my knees can still make it all day (most days).

As I said earlier on, I think most of the complaints are with the process and not so much the stroller and ECV users. Of course, as we so often see, a majority of the people on this forum would never believe a process at their precious Disney is the root of the issue and so the guest gets the blame instead. :(
 
This sums it up. I don't mind the strollers and ECVs as long as I am not being clipped by them. I am thankful that I still don't have to use an ECV and my knees can still make it all day (most days).

As I said earlier on, I think most of the complaints are with the process and not so much the stroller and ECV users. Of course, as we so often see, a majority of the people on this forum would never believe a process at their precious Disney is the root of the issue and so the guest gets the blame instead. :(

The process of using a bus is pretty much the same outside of Disney. So I can't see how you can rationally blame them for people taking time to fold up strollers, or drive on their ECV (as if they should be blamed). The process of using a bus is what it is. Disney is not at fault. People need to learn patience and compassion and stop being in such a hurry that they forget those things.
 
At most resorts, you can see the bus coming. Unless you are the only ones waiting for the bus, it should not take you very long to fold the stroller.

It doesn't. It takes a minute. Nine times out of ten, the stroller is folded and we are all ready to board. We had two incidents in which it took an extra bit of time, and the rest of our party managed to get about 2-3 yards ahead of my DH while he finished folding the stroller. The people behind us had no way of knowing it did not take us this long every time, and that our decision to wait until we saw the bus pulling up was generally sound. They saw a gap, realized they were being held up, and at least one was indignant about being held up for even 30 seconds. They did not even have time to finish their exaggerated sigh before the stroller was folded and we all continued. Reading this thread made me realize just how many people there are out there like that one person.
 
The signs at the bus stops said strollers had to be folded on the bus. It did not say that strollers had to be folded in the line. And it never crossed my mind that my fellow bus riders would rather take the chance of my kid getting hit by a bus/listen to my attempts to convince a 2-year-old to stand still in line for an unknown amount of time than wait 30-40 seconds while I remove the child and fold the stroller as the bus is pulling to the curb.
The complaints from people who do not have to deal with strollers, small children, disabilities, scooters, etc, are quite sad, IMO. The people whose vacations are already the easiest are this put out by a minute or two delay by people for whom the vacation is already going to be more stressful? It really says more about your character than it does about the manners of some flustered mom who is waiting until the last minute to disrupt their sleeping infant and then takes longer than usual to fold up a stroller in front of glaring eyes.

How about you take your kid out when the bus pulls up before you make it to the door. I have gone to WDW many times with small children have done just that and neither were ever hit by a car. Why is that some parents with small children seem so entitled? Having children does not get you saint hood and really you don’t get a pass from common courtesies because you have children.
 
How about you take your kid out when the bus pulls up before you make it to the door. I have gone to WDW many times with small children have done just that and neither were ever hit by a car. Why is that some parents with small children seem so entitled? Having children does not get you saint hood and really you don’t get a pass from common courtesies because you have children.

Partially agreed. If you have a snag with the stroller, then, yeah, things happen. But you should try to be ready, for the sake of everyone getting on the bus.
 
How bout you jump in front of the bus when it pulls up.

Are you kidding? This isn't funny in any way. You have been INCREDIBLY rude with every single response. You have done nothing to contribute to this thread and now this is just too far.
 
Partially agreed. If you have a snag with the stroller, then, yeah, things happen. But you should try to be ready, for the sake of everyone getting on the bus.

I don't think anyone here said anything about kids being in strollers in the actual line but waiting to you get to the door is just inconsiderate to all the other passengers and should be avoided if possible so I am not sure why the one poster even brought it up.
 
Are you kidding? This isn't funny in any way. You have been INCREDIBLY rude with every single response. You have done nothing to contribute to this thread and now this is just too far.

Did you not see the post I am responding to? How come the passive aggressive comment is ok?
 
Did you not see the post I am responding to? How come the passive aggressive comment is ok?

yeah except nothing about any of the posts you've responded to have been passive aggressive. Even if you believe they were you can't fight fire with fire.
 
Does this site have the "Ignore" option somewhere so that you can select specific posters that you don't want to read posts from?

I'm on another similar board with this same desgin & we have the option there but I'm not finding it here? :sad2:
 
So, that makes you a SITH????? :eek:



We should all put Guest Communications' phone number on our cell speed dial list, for just such an occasion...
Well, yeah, I guess it sort of does...but I don't think I look like a Sith!! And I'm lucky that my kids are grown.....39, 36, and just 19. So, yeah there's three of 'em, but not underfoot anymore!!!

I don't have a problem with strollers. They are folded when people take them on the bus. If not, the drivers are pretty good at stopping them before they board to do so.

I don't have an issue in principle with the scooters on buses - but this September we found it to be more of a "problem" than ever before - not that people were using scooters, but that the bus loses so many seats for each scooter and there seemed to be so many occasions where there were 2 scooters to be loaded. That means 6 seats gone for the scooters, another 2 for the two occupants to transfer to and say another 4 seats for their respective parties to be seated with then (that's assuming that they each had two others with them - in some cases there are more!) So there goes 12 seats before they even start loading

They need another solution to this. It's no good getting frustrated with the poor folk confined to mobility aids, but clearly the system is not working as well as it could
In all my trips to WDW, I have not seen many buses with two ECVs on them...usually just one. And most of the time??? None. Sure, they do take up a lot of room, but it just doesn't happen all that often. I realize there are some here who would like us to believe that every time they got on a bus, they had to wait for two ECVs to load....but, I tend to doubt that. My experiences can not be all that different. I have been at all times of the year, crowded, not so crowded.

I'm not sure what the problem is about folding up the strollers. I have been behind a couple of people who were not aware they had to fold up the stroller before getting on the bus. They usually go off to the side to do so. I let my 3 year old sit in the stroller (I bought a small umbrella stroller just for Disney buses because the big one is too heavy to carry around) until we see the correct bus coming. We then get her out and fold it up. I have never not been ready to board the bus when it stopped. That way we are not trying to hold onto a folded up stroller and a child and the bags while waiting in line for who knows how long. Unfortunately, at the resort bus stops, you don't know if you'll be standing there for five minutes or half an hour. Since my oldest child is headed off to the military, our trips from now on will be just me and the 3 year old. I would hope others would be understanding if I do happen to hold them up momentarily because I have to juggle all those things by myself.
I wish all the parents were like you. And most are. Like I said, it's a small percentage...almost not worth discussing. But it does happen. So, thank you for being considerate!!!! No one is going to have an issue with your way of doing things.

I just get tired of passive aggressive comments that are COMPLETELY insulting and then when I avoid the passive and go straight to the aggressive I'M the bad guy.
Never saw any passive/aggressive behaviour here.

The signs at the bus stops said strollers had to be folded on the bus. It did not say that strollers had to be folded in the line. And it never crossed my mind that my fellow bus riders would rather take the chance of my kid getting hit by a bus/listen to my attempts to convince a 2-year-old to stand still in line for an unknown amount of time than wait 30-40 seconds while I remove the child and fold the stroller as the bus is pulling to the curb.

The complaints from people who do not have to deal with strollers, small children, disabilities, scooters, etc, are quite sad, IMO. The people whose vacations are already the easiest are this put out by a minute or two delay by people for whom the vacation is already going to be more stressful? It really says more about your character than it does about the manners of some flustered mom who is waiting until the last minute to disrupt their sleeping infant and then takes longer than usual to fold up a stroller in front of glaring eyes.
Please, don't say there is something wrong with my character if I'm annoyed by someone holding up the line by being inconsiderate. The vast majority of people with strollers can manage to take their kids out of the stroller, hold onto the bags, and fold up the stroller without the child getting hit by the buses. No, I certainly don't think any parent should be taking a chance like that. But in all reality??? You wouldn't believe the parents I've watched, allowing their kids to run around the bus stop area, sitting on the curb, darting out into the street!! Boggles the mind. So, sure, wait a bit to take your child out of the stroller. The baby is going to be woken up in any case....an addtl min of sleep isn't going to matter one way or the other!!!
My issue is with the family that has 2 kids, in a double stroller. In that stroller is a diaper bag the size of RI, along with all the bags of purchases they have made. And a small cooler type thing to keep their food cool..softsided. Okay. They stand there in line.....about 15 people back. The bus approaches, and stops. Guests start boarding the bus. Mom and Dad push the stroller to the bus door, and then start unloading things. Then, they take out the two kids....who by the way, are about 4 and 6. Now, they have taken a few minutes to do this. Then, they get on the bus...and mom and the two kids sit down. Dad decides that he doesn't want to be far away from the family, so he stops right there, in the middle of the aisle...blocking it completely. Even with the driver telling people to move to the back. And there are plenty of seats back there, but no one can see them because dad and his double stroller are taking up the aisle!!
Now, this isn't going to happen all the time. But, I have seen it more than once...or at least a variation on it. I have no issue with parents that wait until the last minute to take out the toddlers/infants. But the bags can be out and ready to deal with. And that is what most do.
Really, I am not anti-family. It's just that not everyone is as considerate as some of you here, on this board. And I am not trying to pass judgement here....just trying to show some of my experiences, so you can understand why I feel the way I do. I have helped parents with their stuff, I have given up my seat to a youngster or parent holding a baby. I get it, I really do. I've been there, down that road. But, it's a two way street.
 
How bout you jump in front of the bus when it pulls up.

People come to this thread as Disney warms peoples hearts, it takes them away from the tough world we live in, it gives us something to look forward too, and plan for...seeing posts like this takes away from that. These forums have been a sense of enjoyment and something to look forward too...Comments like this strip all that away...

Can we please keep these posts forums to something that is a tad bit less offensive, flaming and negative please?

Is there a moderator watching these threads? I am surprised this has been allowed to go on as long as it has.
 
People come to this thread as Disney warms peoples hearts, it takes them away from the tough world we live in, it gives us something to look forward too, and plan for...seeing posts like this takes away from that. These forums have been a sense of enjoyment and something to look forward too...Comments like this strip all that away...

Can we please keep these posts forums to something that is a tad bit less offensive, flaming and negative please?

Is there a moderator watching these threads? I am surprised this has been allowed to go on as long as it has.

I am too. I'm really surprised this hasn't been closed or that person hasn't been banned or had some sort of hold placed on their account because I've reported every single awful comment they've made. Maybe I'm the only one.
 
Does this site have the "Ignore" option somewhere so that you can select specific posters that you don't want to read posts from?

I'm on another similar board with this same desgin & we have the option there but I'm not finding it here? :sad2:

yes it does, just go to their profile and it should say ignore under 'user lists'.
 















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