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[jbish]

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

Well then I'll take their cancelled leftovers!!

 

[SkyGuy]

@lfcfan We didn’t utilize rope drop or EE, even though we are at Beach Club, but if you are on property, and are early risers, I’d suggest doing EE to jump on Space Mountain. You could also get an LL to ride it 2x with no wait. If you happen to be at a deluxe resort and will be around on one of the extended hours days, that will also be a great way to get in some extra rides.
I got up at 6:45 and had Genie+ ready to go.
I purchased 7DMT for 9:45-10:45 and got Space for 11:05-12:05. Those were both times I chose and wanted, which isn’t always the case, so I was lucky.
Philharmonic 11:10-12:10 to see the new Coco scene (very cute!).
Pirates 11:30-12:30
Monsters Inc Laugh Floor - 11:50-12:50
Buzz - 12:10-1:10
BTMRR - 2:30-3:30 (this took me about 25 minutes of refreshing while we waited for and watched Carousel of Progress)

then I switched to trying for HS rides.

 

[DonTheDuck]

Interesting, because I actually took time this morning between 7-7:30 to track G+ LL availability (planning out my own strategy for our trip) and saw quite a bit of high demand LLs pop back up around 7:10 and 7:20, with early return times, even! At around 7:12, saw MFSR and MMRR return times as early as 10ish, SDD even popped up for several refreshes. Again saw a bunch pop up around 7:23. Then I thought - oh yeah, it hasn't been busy these past couple of days so this is probably not what it will look like in April. So I'm surprised to hear how crowded it is!! Gives me hope that waiting for the 7:10 drop might actually work for us.

Here's Thrill Data for this morning showing how long LL were available:
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How real time is this data ? Will you see it pop up on thrill data immediately and then be able to log in and do it ?

 

[MaxsDad]

Just back - lowered expectations, increased $$ = Diminished Disney
Adults-only trip, 4 days, deluxe resort, PH tix

We went into the trip knowing the experience would be different than that last 30 trips we've taken to WDW. Boy, was it ever. We decided our line-waiting limit would be 30 minutes which, of course, resulted in not riding much. Also, decided not to spring for more than one day of extra expense (Genie+, iLL), just to see what we could manage to do without it. Answer: not much.

Lessons learned: Rope drop combined with lots of time on your phone with Genie+ and iLL are the keys to getting on rides; diminished experience for more $$ is a given; crowd control efforts have not worked; CMs are just people doing a job - the days of fun guest interactions are mostly gone.

Here's a synopsis of our park days (with one rope drop day, one Genie+ & iLL day):

Parks were clean and beautiful, especially Epcot for F&G.

Epcot:
Took Friendship boats to IGW - CM's were very talkative (amongst themselves). However on one trip, there was a singing CM who made everyone smile.
F&G decor is awesome with some nice seating areas near Creations shop with garden themed info. I miss the garden seminars...
Rides/Experiences: Remy (rope drop, another on a iLL pass); Soarin' - 20 min wait in the AM; Spaceship Earth - 15 mins (no update planned anymore?); Experiences: listened to the mariachi band at Mexico (very fun); did American Adventure & Pixar Short Films; caught a little of Garden Rocks Skillzmatic concert - fantastic.
The construction barriers In Epcot result in more walking and the park experience is less enjoyable due to what's missing;. Food lines were crazy long esp at food booths; ride lines got long by 10 AM; stayed for Harmonious one night (soooo disappointed in this and feel bad for all who spent so much time designing it - a mishmash of forgettable, screechy songs with a message that was completely lost on us; weird repetitive mechanics; same with fireworks) - one and done for us.

MK:
Great CM on the ferry boat, calling out 'Happy Birthday! or Welcome, Princess! to those boarding the boat. The worst crowds were here. We didn't ride anything and left after going to Starbucks. All lines were 40+ minutes, even our old stand-by, Tomorrowland Transit Authority. Not fun. Not magical.

HS:
Used iLL for RotR and bought Genie + for TSM, saw Muppets, couldn't get good time for any other rides & decided not to spend time on our phones trying to refresh and get better offerings. As it was, Rise went down when we entered it so had to come back later, which was a pain as we'd hoped to park hop elsewhere, had an ADR elsewhere.

AK:
Took a bus from Grand Floridian. Bus CM, when asked if he liked being a bus driver: 'Eh, it's a job' (so not much magic there)., however he was very talkative to a teacher on the bus, telling her how much he admired teachers so I guess that's a good thing.
Went to AK Starbucks - short wait, efficient service. Walked the Gorilla Trek (excellent views of mom, baby, brother, etc.); Triceratops Spin; missed Expedition Everest being available; lines for others rides were 40+ minutes; ate at Flame Tree BBQ (very good)

The lack of flexibility offered by Genie+ and iLL is a major flaw, IMHO, not to mention the expense. The Genie+ times available were usually mid to late afternoon with no other options unless you wanted to risk cancelling one to get another or keep refreshing, hoping something popped up. Some of us think getting up at 7AM is a pain then waiting another 2 hours to make another Genie+ ressie is not guest friendly. Is there a 'modify' button that I missed somehow? For those of us who used the old FP+ system effectively, this new system is a complete bust. The stand-by lines were ridiculous (think Great America-type waits). So, for those that like to Rope Drop and don't mind the time rules when using Genie+, Disney will probably be a wonderful experience, for those of us who don't, well, we're SOL.

Despite the lack of magic, we still had a good trip - mostly due to the weather - 75+ degrees each day. Better than dirty snow and sub zero temps at home.

Your experience was very similar to ours.

We stayed in the Treehouse villas at Saratoga Springs for the first time from 1 March - 8 March. Not a big fan of the villas, but I'll save my gripes there for the resort board. It was a little hot for me, but still doable, not August/September hot which I have experienced before but still hot when not in the shade as there was very little cloud cover. We were also there for the torrential downpour Monday night and it was interesting to see all the flooding. We had to turn back between Frontierland and Adventureland on our way to Pirates, fortunately we were able to cut through Pecos Bill.

The crowds were also very high, I have been during Christmas before so not that bad, and I was expecting it based on what I had seen recently but wow, still a lot more than what we had when we visited the same week a few years ago. Mask use was also very low (myself included) so I guess everyone is vaccinated now. Waits were crazy high for some rides, Living with the Land and Nemo were both posted at 45 minutes, I think Figment was posted around 30 on Thursday when we were at Epcot, Sunday was surprisingly better crowd-wise. I think most of the wait times were pretty accurate though and I didn't see too many cases of inflation.

CMs overall were fine, we had a couple of not so pleasant experiences including one who rolled his eyes when we wanted to split up our party of 3 for the teacups (my wife didn't want to spin fast and my daughter did). Not really a big deal, but just kind of off putting and I just chalked it up to it being busy. We also had great CMs like the one at Chef Mickey who let us hang out a little longer after we finished breakfast to wait for Pluto who seemed to keep missing our section, along with the waiter from Sci-Fi who was super nice and chatty. We also had two great CMs who let us wait to pilot the Falcon so more good than bad CMs. Although funny story when we checked in for Oga's Cantina they said we would be standing, which we knew was a possibility because we did that on our last trip, unfortunately this was later in our trip and my wife's fake knee was bothering her at this point so we asked to wait for a booth. The CM seemed annoyed at first and said that next time we go to a restaurant we should mention that as soon as we check in because it could be a long wait. We laughed because we thought, how many other restaurants have standing only areas? I know some of the lounges/bars probably do, but it was still funny. She talked to us some more after and I am sure she was just trying to be helpful. I'll add too that this was the first time I have been since Disney changed their policy on facial hair and tattoos and while I don't really care because it doesn't bother me, it was noticeable. Again not in a bad way for the most part, although some of them do look like carnies now lol.

Genie+?? What can I say that I haven't already said? I am not a fan at all. I don't think we got our money's worth. I don't like the lack of flexibility, the inability to pick the same ride more than once, the need to wake up early (although I am an early riser even on vacation) or the glitches in the system. One day it took a full 2 minutes for my tip board to load at 7am on cellular data, which may not have been great at the Treehouses. I missed out on a ILL for Remy because of that. I was fortunate that some more dropped a half hour later but I still wasn't happy. In addition, as I mentioned the way the system doesn't hold your time while you click through is just unacceptable in this day. Ticket vendors can hold your spot for minutes, why can't Disney? Extremely frustrating. It was also difficult with our touring style which usually includes a mid-day pool break when it is hot and crowded. We could have stacked but by 11 there was nothing good left for later in the day. I also didn't enjoy being on my phone the whole time and definitely felt like I missed something. As a PP said they had to refresh while waiting and watching CoP. I don't want to be looking at my phone while on CoP, I want to enjoy the show and my daughter's reaction. I would also just grab whatever popped up because I didn't want to take the chance that it would be gone with nothing better. Refreshing is fine, but that is a gamble especially with no easy way to modify. I honestly don't mind paying for things like express pass. We do it all the time when we go to Busch Gardens Williamsburg, but the value is there and the system is easier. I realize they can't use the same system in Disney but honestly I would have paid $20 a day to keep the old system and I hope they make changes to Genie+ because right now it is a huge turn off for us. I also felt like it was harder to plan out rides and that I ended up backtracking around the park more than I did in the past.

We used both early entry and the extended MK hours. The extended MK hours was amazing, unfortunately it was on our arrival day so we were tired and couldn't take full advantage of it but we stayed till about 10 and got a lot done. We had adjusted our next day park from DHS to Epcot so we could sleep in the next morning but then Disney adjusted the Epcot hours to open earlier and messed up our plans. The early entry at MK wasn't great, we still ended up waiting an hour for PP, maybe I did it wrong but I think a longer early entry would be great. We also only were able to ride JC and PP once each this trip when in the past we were easily able to combine FP and RD to ride them multiple times. Again maybe it is my fault for using the system wrong, I dunno, but it was disappointing. We were able to ride MFSR twice during early entry while my wife did ToT one day and Slinky Dog another time for early entry. My first time on slinky! (I'm not a big coaster person).

Overall it was an ok trip, but I really think you can feel the nickel and diming from Disney lately, especially as they continue to take perks away but increase prices. My wife and I have an adults only trip for October that we are planning but only because we have rental credits to use after the trip was postponed because of Covid. After that I may just bank some DVC points for a while or maybe even rent some because some of the magic is lost for us.

ETA my thoughts on both Harmonious and Enchantment. Harmonious was unoriginal and uninspiring compared to its predecessor. I also wasn't a huge fan of Enchantment, I thought the story in Wishes was better and felt like there was an actual flow to the music and the fireworks and they worked well together. Enchantment just seemed to be a mashup of newish Disney tunes with fireworks in the background. To be fair though I'll have to see it again because I was a bit distracted. We had a decent spot on main street to see all the projections there as well and at the last minute some band kid hopped off the curb right in front of my 10 year old and three other kids. I ended up having to lift my daughter up so she could see anything so this kid could take a video of something that is all over the internet in better quality than what he was going to get with his iphone. I get that happens, but it still annoyed me, especially since it was obvious there were a bunch of kids he got right in front of. Oh, that also reminds me about the woman next to us for Harmonious who had to live cast the entire thing back to her family who didn't mute their mic, so that was cool. People get in their bubble there and just don't have any consideration for others.

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

Mask use was also very low (myself included) so I guess everyone is vaccinated now.

 

[jbish]

How real time is this data ? Will you see it pop up on thrill data immediately and then be able to log in and do it ?

I think it's pretty real time but there has to be some amount of delay - even if it's just by a couple of minutes. I wouldn't recommend you use Thrill Data to track what's available. I would just follow the app, pull down to refresh the availability, and book then. I was showing the data from Thrill Data as it's a good look back on the day on what was available and when. It's also a compilation/average. What's shown on the app is what is available to YOU to book in the moment. I have the Thrill Data website open right now. When I hit refresh at 8:01 am, the 7:55 am data got populated. So it's at least 5 minutes behind - way beyond any amount of time you'd want to wait to get the right info.

 

[lfcfan]

@lfcfan We didn’t utilize rope drop or EE, even though we are at Beach Club, but if you are on property, and are early risers, I’d suggest doing EE to jump on Space Mountain. You could also get an LL to ride it 2x with no wait. If you happen to be at a deluxe resort and will be around on one of the extended hours days, that will also be a great way to get in some extra rides.
I got up at 6:45 and had Genie+ ready to go.
I purchased 7DMT for 9:45-10:45 and got Space for 11:05-12:05. Those were both times I chose and wanted, which isn’t always the case, so I was lucky.
Philharmonic 11:10-12:10 to see the new Coco scene (very cute!).
Pirates 11:30-12:30
Monsters Inc Laugh Floor - 11:50-12:50
Buzz - 12:10-1:10
BTMRR - 2:30-3:30 (this took me about 25 minutes of refreshing while we waited for and watched Carousel of Progress)

then I switched to trying for HS rides.

Thank you!

 

[SusanDK]

Fast pass+ always worked out great for us. We did our 3 rides and left happy. Last trip we were lucky to get one ride a day with Genie + and although We were there for rope drop we couldn’t compete with the “running of the bulls”

This is my concern. We are not rope-drop, or even pre-lunch, visitors. I loved the old FP+ where I could schedule three afternoon fast passes in quick succession in advance of arrival, using the time in between FP's for some of the other entertainment.

I'm trying to read up enough to know if it's worth paying for Genie+ if we don't arrive at the park until 2 pm or later. Would we be able to get 3-4 rides in before the end of the evening? Not excited about having to stay connected to the phone constantly.

Disney certainly has the technology from the old system to allow people to plan a few rides in advance. I'm hoping they will tweak the system in the coming months to make it more guest-friendly.

 

[Lsdolphin]

This is my concern. We are not rope-drop, or even pre-lunch, visitors. I loved the old FP+ where I could schedule three afternoon fast passes in quick succession in advance of arrival, using the time in between FP's for some of the other entertainment.

I'm trying to read up enough to know if it's worth paying for Genie+ if we don't arrive at the park until 2 pm or later. Would we be able to get 3-4 rides in before the end of the evening? Not excited about having to stay connected to the phone constantly.

Disney certainly has the technology from the old system to allow people to plan a few rides in advance. I'm hoping they will tweak the system in the coming months to make it more guest-friendly.
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actually I think if you are planning not arrive in the park until after 2pm you should be fine with the Genie+...if yo book your first ride at 7:00 am then book your 2nd ride at 11:00 am and additional rides every 2 hours so by time you arrive you could have several rides stacked ...remember you can get overlapping times as each time slot covers an hour and you shouldn’t need that long to do a ride and get to next one.

 

[Lsdolphin]

actually I think if you are planning not arrive in the park until after 2pm you should be fine with the Genie+...if yo book your first ride at 7:00 am then book your 2nd ride at 11:00 am and additional rides every 2 hours so by time you arrive you could have several rides stacked ...remember you can get overlapping times as each time slot covers an hour and you shouldn’t need that long to do a ride and get to next one.

 

[momz]

actually I think if you are planning not arrive in the park until after 2pm you should be fine with the Genie+...if yo book your first ride at 7:00 am then book your 2nd ride at 11:00 am and additional rides every 2 hours so by time you arrive you could have several rides stacked ...remember you can get overlapping times as each time slot covers an hour and you shouldn’t need that long to do a ride and get to next one.

the problem I see with this strategy is that you cannot choose your return time. Genie gets to decide what time you will ride. So it could assign a time that is earlier than you intend to arrive at the park.

Plus, you will be going back and forth across the park because, even though you can have rides booked, you cannot plan the order in which you ride them.

it’s very hard to like Genie +. It helps with avoiding lines, but you will walk yourself to exhaustion.

 

[Lsdolphin]

the problem I see with this strategy is that you cannot choose your return time. Genie gets to decide what time you will ride. So it could assign a time that is earlier than you intend to arrive at the park.

Plus, you will be going back and forth across the park because, even though you can have rides booked, you cannot plan the order in which you ride them.

it’s very hard to like Genie +. It helps with avoiding lines, but you will walk yourself to exhaustion.

I really don’t like Genie+ and it didn’t work well for us as we could only stay in parks a few hours in the morning but i did try stacking rides for later one day and was able to do so at MK but it did take a lot of time on phone and refreshing to do so and than we ended up being unable to go to park later in day anyway. It was especially frustrating when you selected a time and then after you confirmed it gave you a time different than what you selected and there is no way to modify a time...but still think for those going later in day and who don’t mind taking the time it’s possible to stack rides. As far as Genie+ giving me time earlier than what I wanted I just waited a minute or two and tried again....it never gave me an earlier time once I made a selection though it was always later. But fast pass+ was sooo much better and I would be happy to pay for it instead of this Genie+ mess!

 

[Westerner]

the problem I see with this strategy is that you cannot choose your return time. Genie gets to decide what time you will ride. So it could assign a time that is earlier than you intend to arrive at the park.

Plus, you will be going back and forth across the park because, even though you can have rides booked, you cannot plan the order in which you ride them.

it’s very hard to like Genie +. It helps with avoiding lines, but you will walk yourself to exhaustion.

G+ sometimes assigns a later return time than originally displayed particularly during the 7am rush when return times are rapidly getting later. But the reverse - an earlier ride time than displayed - generally doesn’t happen, I havent read any reports of that, though plenty of the former.

 

[Westerner]

This is my concern. We are not rope-drop, or even pre-lunch, visitors. I loved the old FP+ where I could schedule three afternoon fast passes in quick succession in advance of arrival, using the time in between FP's for some of the other entertainment.

I'm trying to read up enough to know if it's worth paying for Genie+ if we don't arrive at the park until 2 pm or later. Would we be able to get 3-4 rides in before the end of the evening?

Not excited about having to stay connected to the phone constantly.

Disney certainly has the technology from the old system to allow people to plan a few rides in advance. I'm hoping they will tweak the system in the coming months to make it more guest-friendly.

If you are arriving later, you can get later return times by choosing a high-demand ride for your 1st G+ eg JC, SDD, TT. These rides have return times that go into afternoon/evening very quickly, By the time youre eligible to book your 2nd G+ there should be several rides with later return times to choose from.

It is a myth that you have to stay connected to your phone constantly to stack G+ selections for afternoon/evening. Suppose park opens at 9am.

• Book your 1st G+ at 7am
• If you want to sleep in a bit then at least book your 1st before 9am
• Set an alarm for 10:55 to book your 2nd by 11am
• Set an alarm for 12:55 and 2:55 to book your 3rd/4th by 1pm/3pm
• After your 3pm booking may not need the phone bc there probably wont be much availability left (MK excepted). That’s a total of 4 times on your phone.
• Check your confirmed return times after booking, sometimes they can shift from whats originally displayed esp. during the 7am rush

 

[SusanDK]

actually I think if you are planning not arrive in the park until after 2pm you should be fine with the Genie+...if yo book your first ride at 7:00 am then book your 2nd ride at 11:00 am and additional rides every 2 hours so by time you arrive you could have several rides stacked ...remember you can get overlapping times as each time slot covers an hour and you shouldn’t need that long to do a ride and get to next one.

We are local so do not stay onsite. Can we do this? If we are not physically inside the park, are we able to 'stack' from home for arrival later in the day? Assuming, that is, that we have a reservation for the specific park that day.

Another question - from what I've read, it sounds like people are able to use Genie+ at multiple parks on the same day. So is that one $15 fee per person? Do you have to have a park reservation at your first park to start making Genie+ reservations? How does it work for the park you are going to hop to? Can you start making post-2 pm Genie+ bookings at any time during the morning for the park you plan to go to after 2 pm?

And can you get a Genie+ ride, if available, for an earlier time than an existing reservation? For example, let's say I plan to hop to Epcot in the evening, but I have a reservation for DHS for that day. Can I grab a Soarin' Genie+ for late in the day, but then if I'm at DHS and they have TSM available while I'm there, can I grab it without losing my Soarin' reservation for later?

They really need to rethink this whole thing - I can't believe Disney thinks this is giving people a magical experience.

 

[SkyGuy]

G+ sometimes assigns a later return time than originally displayed particularly during the 7am rush when return times are rapidly getting later. But the reverse - an earlier ride time than displayed - generally doesn’t happen, I havent read any reports of that, though plenty of the former.

This happened to me repeatedly when I was trying to get a later time for TSM at HS a few days ago. We had an Oga’s for 7:35, and we wanted to do TSM after. Nothing would be available, so I would refresh incessantly, and finally an appropriate time would pop up, like 8:00pm-9:00pm. I’d frantically click on it, hoping it would still be there, and it would give me a return time of 3:00-4:00 (?!). It was honestly making me very mad! I’d cancel and try again. It did it to me four times before I finally got 7:55pm- 8:55pm. In all 4 of my Genie trips, that was the only time the earlier confirmation has happened - but it can and does.

 

[scrappinginontario]

If you are arriving later, you can get later return times by choosing a high-demand ride for your 1st G+ eg JC, SDD, TT. These rides have return times that go into afternoon/evening very quickly, By the time youre eligible to book your 2nd G+ there should be several rides with later return times to choose from.

It is a myth that you have to stay connected to your phone constantly to stack G+ selections for afternoon/evening. Suppose park opens at 9am.

• Book your 1st G+ at 7am
• If you want to sleep in a bit then at least book your 1st before 9am
• Set an alarm for 10:55 to book your 2nd by 11am
• Set an alarm for 12:55 and 2:55 to book your 3rd/4th by 1pm/3pm
• After your 3pm booking may not need the phone bc there probably wont be much availability left (MK excepted). That’s a total of 4 times on your phone.
• Check your confirmed return times after booking, sometimes they can shift from whats originally displayed esp. during the 7am rush

Yes, we used this method too for out Jan/Feb trip and it worked wonderfully. Quickly setting timers made it easy to put my phone away and enjoy the parks. I did not feel I was on my phone any more this trip than I was in the past.

1. We are local so do not stay onsite. Can we do this? If we are not physically inside the park, are we able to 'stack' from home for arrival later in the day? Assuming, that is, that we have a reservation for the specific park that day.

2. Another question - from what I've read, it sounds like people are able to use Genie+ at multiple parks on the same day. So is that one $15 fee per person? Do you have to have a park reservation at your first park to start making Genie+ reservations? How does it work for the park you are going to hop to? Can you start making post-2 pm Genie+ bookings at any time during the morning for the park you plan to go to after 2 pm?

3. And can you get a Genie+ ride, if available, for an earlier time than an existing reservation? For example, let's say I plan to hop to Epcot in the evening, but I have a reservation for DHS for that day. Can I grab a Soarin' Genie+ for late in the day, but then if I'm at DHS and they have TSM available while I'm there, can I grab it without losing my Soarin' reservation for later?

They really need to rethink this whole thing - I can't believe Disney thinks this is giving people a magical experience.

1. Yes
2. Yes, $15/person/day - works in all parks you go to that day
3. Yes, you may book a later LL first for the park you intend to hop to and then an earlier one at the park you are in, when your booking window opens.

I highly recommend you read the first posts on the, 'Everything Genie, Genie+ and Individual Lightning Lane' thread as it will explain all of this and more.

 

[SkyGuy]

Yes, we used this method too for out Jan/Feb trip and it worked wonderfully. Quickly setting timers made it easy to put my phone away and enjoy the parks. I did not feel I was on my phone any more this trip than I was in the past.



1. Yes
2. Yes, $15/person/day - works in all parks you go to that day
3. Yes, you may book a later LL first for the park you intend to hop to and then an earlier one at the park you are in, when your booking window opens.

I highly recommend you read the first posts on the, 'Everything Genie, Genie+ and Individual Lightning Lane' thread as it will explain all of this and more.

It doesn’t work so well for HS anymore. It works wonderfully for MK, Epcot, and AK. If you buy the ILL and get a top tier LL for HS at 7, at 11:00, your choices are likely to be AS2, Star Tours, Muppets, Frozen Sing-a-Long, and Beauty and the Beast. If you refresh for a looooong time, you may get TSM to pop up. On Tuesday around noon, I refreshed for 90 minutes to try and get something besides Star Tours, TSM, or AS2. I finally took Star Tours. Then, due to the fact that I had to refresh so much, my next window was pushed ahead that much more. I had no issues stacking in HS in February; however, HS is a tough beast right now.

 

[SusanDK]

It doesn’t work so well for HS anymore. It works wonderfully for MK, Epcot, and AK. If you buy the ILL and get a top tier LL for HS at 7, at 11:00, your choices are likely to be AS2, Star Tours, Muppets, Frozen Sing-a-Long, and Beauty and the Beast. If you refresh for a looooong time, you may get TSM to pop up. On Tuesday around noon, I refreshed for 90 minutes to try and get something besides Star Tours, TSM, or AS2. I finally took Star Tours. Then, due to the fact that I had to refresh so much, my next window was pushed ahead that much more. I had no issues stacking in HS in February; however, HS is a tough beast right now.

If we go to HS, we are looking to ride TSM and MMRR, and not sure if I'd get my husband on MFSR. We're also unlikely to pay for a single LL ride (RotR). He won't do AS2 (due to spinning, even though I told him it wasn't bad) and neither of us will do Star Tours. We've seen Muppets, Frozen Sing-a-Long and Beauty and the Beast more times than I care to mention, just because that's usually what we can get without a long queue whenever we go, so I wouldn't buy Genie+ for those.

So yeah, sounds like HS is not really worth Genie+ for us because there are only two, maybe three, rides we really need it for. Our favorite is TSM so we probably just need to try to time it for a reasonable standby line.

It's disappointing that you're only able to book each ride once with Genie+ because we'd prefer to do our favorites a couple of times, and skip most of the others. Disney should consider letting people have a maximum number of Genie+ experiences (equal to the number of Genie+ rides in the park), but be able to ride more than once.

 

[Ricguz]

If you are arriving later, you can get later return times by choosing a high-demand ride for your 1st G+ eg JC, SDD, TT. These rides have return times that go into afternoon/evening very quickly, By the time youre eligible to book your 2nd G+ there should be several rides with later return times to choose from.

It is a myth that you have to stay connected to your phone constantly to stack G+ selections for afternoon/evening. Suppose park opens at 9am.

• Book your 1st G+ at 7am
• If you want to sleep in a bit then at least book your 1st before 9am
• Set an alarm for 10:55 to book your 2nd by 11am
• Set an alarm for 12:55 and 2:55 to book your 3rd/4th by 1pm/3pm
• After your 3pm booking may not need the phone bc there probably wont be much availability left (MK excepted). That’s a total of 4 times on your phone.
• Check your confirmed return times after booking, sometimes they can shift from whats originally displayed esp. during the 7am rush

Thats a great idea Thanks for thinking of that