Here it is - Announcement re More FP+ Beginning 4/28

[elaw]

That's been one of the nice things we've found about FP+ .... We really don't need to go through the RD stampede anymore. The headliners are already reserved and guaranteed

 

[mom2rtk]

That's been one of the nice things we've found about FP+ .... We really don't need to go through the RD stampede anymore. The headliners are already reserved and guaranteed

I guess that depends on whether you want to do ALL of the headliners. Tiering has made rope drop more important than ever if you want to do TSMM and RnR or Soarin and TT.

 

[jade1]

That's great for you but not necessarily the person that doesn't have the waterpark option.

Well SAB is just a resort pool, I would go back to Luna if we were at the Boardwalk.

 

[marciemi]

Was wondering if you can get your 4th fp immediately after using your 3rd or if you have to wait for the window to close? Example: My 3rd fp was at Test track from 1pm to 2pm, but I rode test track at 1:30, so can I get my 4th at 1:45 or do I have to wait until 2?

Bumping this because I have the same question - thought one of the blogs I read said you could do it as soon as you were in the window for the third FP, used or not. So asking if our third FP is from say 12-1, can I go to a kiosk at 12, 1, or whenever I use it in between? Thanks!

 

[jade1]

No I wouldn't. It would spit out the next available time with FP-, which was apparently 45 minutes later. FP- didn't skip around. Actually, under the old system I could have pulled 2 more FP- in that 3.5-4 hour timeframe.

I doubt you could always get RNR FP- for 45 minutes after lunch. The few quiet months we have traveled the headliners still went faster than that anyway.

But even if you could-there are times we would rather have 3 1/2 hours later-so now we get to choose. Couldn't before.

 

[bexter12]

Bumping this because I have the same question - thought one of the blogs I read said you could do it as soon as you were in the window for the third FP, used or not. So asking if our third FP is from say 12-1, can I go to a kiosk at 12, 1, or whenever I use it in between? Thanks!

I'm interested in this, too. Under the old system you could get one after your window opened so we would get one for the next ride after the window opened then ride the current fp and have one waiting.

 

[Sammie]

I guess that depends on whether you want to do ALL of the headliners. Tiering has made rope drop more important than ever if you want to do TSMM and RnR or Soarin and TT.

We got Fastpass+ for all of these, just not on the same day and multiple times and before today's changes.

 

[wisblue]

I doubt you could always get RNR FP- for 45 minutes after lunch. The few quiet months we have traveled the headliners still went faster than that anyway.

But even if you could-there are times we would rather have 3 1/2 hours later-so now we get to choose. Couldn't before.

With paper FP, because anyone who picked one got the earliest available time, it was more likely that the return time would be later. For example, if there were an hour's worth of FPs left for the day, they would all be in the last hour.

Under FP+, if there's an hour's worth of FPs available, the available times could be spread out over several hours, giving you a choice of what you want.

Just because something is available an hour out today doesn't mean it would have been available with paper FP. Also, if the available time for a paper FP conflicted with another plan, like dinner or Fantasmic, you were out of luck. With FP+, if FPs are available, you may have a chance to work around those plans.

 

[jade1]

I have never debated that that particular enhancement was anything but an enhancement

I never said you did.

I was just pointing out that even if there was an app that displayed return times-it did you no good if you wanted to actually select a FP- where the kiosk you can select additional FP+'s for any attraction location from there.

 

[jade1]

The stand by time (RR)was also 45 minutes. Our original FP's were TSMM at 11:15 with a standby time of 90 minutes, TOT at 12:15 with a standby time of 30 minutes and ST at 1:15 with a stand by time of 25 minutes. We decided to have lunch at the Brown Derby about 1:45 and while we were waiting for a table I walked over and made the 4th FP reservation. I would not considered it dead as far as crowds go and don't see it as waste at all

We got to do all 3 headliners, star tours and had a really nice lunch in just under 4 hours.

I guess that depends on whether you want to do ALL of the headliners. Tiering has made rope drop more important than ever if you want to do TSMM and RnR or Soarin and TT.

elaw just did those today and not starting until 11:15.

 

[Networth]

I would love to know what suit thought this idea up. This does nothing but cause the same problems they claimed FP+ would solve. If they wanted to add more FP+ slots they should of just done it across the board and include park hopping. Not turn it into a game of 3 card Monte. /Sigh Disney...

 

[Mad Hattered]

I doubt you could always get RNR FP- for 45 minutes after lunch. The few quiet months we have traveled the headliners still went faster than that anyway.

But even if you could-there are times we would rather have 3 1/2 hours later-so now we get to choose. Couldn't before.

I don't think you really grasp how we toured. What was today...a 4? I could have ridden TSMM, RNRC, TOT and ST all twice before 1pm....EASILY!

 

[jade1]

I don't think you really grasp how we toured. What was today...a 4? I could have ridden TSMM, RNRC, TOT and ST all twice before 1pm....EASILY!

You could have today as well.

 

[Mad Hattered]

You could have today as well.

Maybe, maybe not. If the FP+ slots don't fall in line then I don't. Before I KNEW the approach to take because everyone was headed to TSMM (including us). Now some don't. By backing up my standby line with FP+ makes the strategy iffy at best.

Give me 6 FP+/day at the start and let me pick which park I want to play my cards in. Then we're talking. I don't like being dealt a ****ty hand.

 

[wisblue]

I would love to know what suit thought this idea up. This does nothing but cause the same problems they claimed FP+ would solve. If they wanted to add more FP+ slots they should of just done it across the board and include park hopping. Not turn it into a game of 3 card Monte. /Sigh Disney...

Not really true. Under the current rules everyone gets a shot at 3 FPs, either in advance or in the first couple of hours after the park opens. If everyone could make 4 or 5 or more FP+ reservations in advance, the FPs would be less evenly distributed among guests.

I would compare it to not letting anyone have seconds at a wedding dinner buffet until everyone has gone through the line once.

 

[Angel Ariel]

We got Fastpass+ for all of these, just not on the same day and multiple times and before today's changes.

Not everyone has the time to go to the parks on multiple days to experience the headliners.

With our 4 day AFS tickets, we generally only have the time to get to HS once. MK usually takes at least 2 days because of how many more attractions it has, Epcot 1, and then 1/2 day each for the other 2 parks. Epcot's 1 day's worth of time is occasionally split over 2 days (1 full MK day, 1 Full Epcot Day, 1 Epcot/MK split day, 1 AK/DHS split day), but with only 4 day tickets it's more difficult to get to each park more than once.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I never said you did.

I was just pointing out that even if there was an app that displayed return times-it did you no good if you wanted to actually select a FP- where the kiosk you can select additional FP+'s for any attraction location from there.

And I understand that. In the conversation I was in, the point was being made that you had to go to the attraction to find out what the available return time was (under legacy) - I was just pointing out that that wasn't the case. There *were* other ways to find out the available return time under legacy - i.e., to find out whether or not it was worth it to spend the time going to the attraction to get the FP. There is not, as of yet, a way to gauge whether or not it's worth it to stand in the kiosk line for a 4th/5th/6th FP+ without actually waiting in the line and working on the kiosk.

Under legacy, if I looked on an app, saw the return time, and it didn't work for me, I wouldn't waste anymore time going to the attraction. Checking the available return time on the app would take less than 2 minutes. Under FP+, everyone has to go through a kiosk line to find out if it's even possible to get another FP+.

It would be, to me, more frustrating to wait in a 10 min (maybe longer) kiosk line to find out that there's nothing available than the 2 mins I would have spent finding out the same information using phone apps under the legacy system. YMMV of course.

As the person who started this conversation said (I believe it was lugnut?) I fully expect that we will be able to use the app to book 4th/5th/6th FP+ in the future. Only Disney knows when in the future that will happen (if at all).

 

[wisblue]

Not everyone has the time to go to the parks on multiple days to experience the headliners.

With our 4 day AFS tickets, we generally only have the time to get to HS once. MK usually takes at least 2 days because of how many more attractions it has, Epcot 1, and then 1/2 day each for the other 2 parks. Epcot's 1 day's worth of time is occasionally split over 2 days (1 full MK day, 1 Full Epcot Day, 1 Epcot/MK split day, 1/2 day at the other 2), but with only 4 day tickets it's more difficult to get to each park more than once.

If you were only going to spend a half day at DHS with paper FP, you would have to get there at opening to do all of TSMM, TOT, and RNRC, whether you were going to use FPs or not. We have never had any trouble getting to DHS at opening and doing all 3 of those things without a FP, and without long waits, even after FP+ went into effect. Usually doing all 3 takes us about an hour, especially if we use single rider at RNRC.

So, yes, maybe we can't get FPs for all of them, but we can experience all of them, and that's all we really care about.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I would love to know what suit thought this idea up. This does nothing but cause the same problems they claimed FP+ would solve. If they wanted to add more FP+ slots they should of just done it across the board and include park hopping. Not turn it into a game of 3 card Monte. /Sigh Disney...

I don't recall Disney ever actually saying anywhere that FP+ would solve any kind problem with the legacy FP system.

The only "problem" I saw Disney say that FP+ would resolve is people deciding to go to other places in Orlando - that FP+ would encourage those people to spend all of their time (and money) with Disney.

 

[DvF Diva]

Pretty sure your friend is a big fibber.

Not at all. I saw all the FP+s in her MDE profile and saw them get on every ride.

CMs have the ability to add as many FP+s to your account as they wish, and apparently, not just the ones inside the park or in the Help Center.

They've done the work-around for me before when DH's AP wasn't registering properly and he was only getting 4 days worth of FP+s when I was planning our trips.