Does any mom here get "attitude" when state they are SAHM??

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What I want to know is why does it have to be a SAHM vs WOHM debate? We're all moms, we're all doing what we think is best for our family. Shouldn't we just support each other as parents and put petty differences about parenting choices aside? It just seems a little silly to me.
 
I've gotten the opposite response. I worked full-time when I moved into a new neighborhood a few years ago. When the SAHMs asked if I worked and I said yes, it was "oh" then see ya, bye. Whatever. I guess they just couldn't be bothered to make an effort for non-SAHMs.

The following year I went part-time and work every other day. Still do the part-time gig and hope to until DS is in first grade. I always get a three day weekend and get to spend time w/my kids. I really think it's the best of both worlds and works for MY family.

Once in a while, I will admit, I DO get jealous of those SAHM who get to drive Lexuses, shop at Nordstroms, go on vacations, have housecleaners, get to eat out when they want to, etc. We can't afford all of that w/my part-time salary (and probably not even w/my full-time salary). But, then it quickly passes. Those aren't the reasons I work or stay home.
 
all4fun said:
What I want to know is why does it have to be a SAHM vs WOHM debate? We're all moms, we're all doing what we think is best for our family. Shouldn't we just support each other as parents and put petty differences about parenting choices aside? It just seems a little silly to me.

AMEN!
 

all4fun said:
What I want to know is why does it have to be a SAHM vs WOHM debate? We're all moms, we're all doing what we think is best for our family. Shouldn't we just support each other as parents and put petty differences about parenting choices aside? It just seems a little silly to me.


Imagine me ! I'm a working mom with a stay at home husband & we share the parenting 50/50 ! Imagine what people say about me ! :rotfl: But it works for our family & most specifically for our son :love:
 
I'm Just a Mother?
A few months ago, when I was picking up the children at school, another mother I knew well rushed up to me. Emily was fuming with indignation. "Do you know what you and I are?" she demanded. Before I could answer - and I didn't really have one handy - she blurted out the reason for her question.

It seemed she had just returned from renewing her driver's license at the County Clerk's office. Asked by the woman recorder to state her "occupation," Emily had hesitated, uncertain how to classify herself. "What I mean is," explained the recorder, "Do you have a job, or are you just a ......?"

"Of course I have a job," snapped Emily. "I'm a mother."

"We don't list 'mother' as an occupation...'housewife' covers it," said the recorder emphatically.

I forgot all about her story until one day I found myself in the same situation, this time at our own Town Hall. The Clerk was obviously a career woman, poised, efficient, and possessed of a high-sounding title, like "Official Interrogator" or "Town Registrar"

"And what is your occupation?" she probed.

What made me say it, I do not know. The words simply popped out. "I'm....a Research Associate in the field of Child Development and Human Relations."

The clerk paused, ball-point pen frozen in mid-air, and looked up as though she had not heard right. I repeated the title slowly, emphasizing the most significant words. Then I stared with wonder as my pompous pronouncement was written in bold, black ink on the official questionnaire.

"Might I ask," said the clerk with new interest, "just what you do in your field?"

Coolly, without any trace of fluster in my voice, I heard myself reply, "I have a continuing program of research (what mother doesn't) in the laboratory and in the field (normally I would have said indoors and out).

I'm working for my Masters (the whole darned family) and already have four credits (all daughters). Of course, the job is one of the most demanding in the humanities (any mother care to disagree?) and I often work 14 hours a day (24 is more like it). But the job is more challenging than most run-of-the-mill careers and the rewards are in satisfaction rather than just money."

There was an increasing note of respect in the clerk's voice as she completed the form, stood up, and personally ushered me to the door.

As I drove into our driveway buoyed up by my glamorous new career, I was greeted by my lab assistants---age 13, 7, and 3. And upstairs, I could hear our new experimental model (six months) in the child-development
program, testing out a new vocal pattern.

I felt triumphant. I had scored a beat on bureaucracy. And I had gone down on the official records as someone more distinguished and indispensable to mankind than "just another......"

Home...what a glorious career. Especially when there's a title on the door.



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To be honest - there is a mixed amount in our neighborhood. I actually looked for a house in a neighborhood that had some SAHM because I was so lonely in our townhome as everyone worked. All of us moms get along great and respect each other for thier decision. I used to work PT as a nurse offshifts 2-3x a week opposite of DH. It worked until he started to travel, then I stayed home FT. Now I am working as a Camp Nurse FT for 6 wks and my dd goes to the camp. I will tell you, every situation has its positives and negatives. After doing all 3, I think I could never work FT - although this job is easier then being at home, I truly miss my daughter and when I pick her up at 3:30pm she is exhausted from camp and it isn't the same. Only 3 more weeks until I am a SAHM again. :banana:

That said, other moms I know are honest, some want to stay home but can't afford it (although we live in a pretty nice neighborhood) some work PT a few days a week and love the best of both worlds, some stay home FT and love it, some feel isolated staying at home but they still do it. Some working moms have flat out told me, they like their lifestyle and when they stay home a few days with the kids, they get itchy and worn out. :rolleyes: You know what though, it is their decision. I will tell you this, everyone of them knows that a SAHM's job is the hardest job of them all, even if they don't admit it.

I guess I am lucky but I really haven't dealt with those issues. If anyone ever gives me grief, I will just smile and say - Hey to each is their own, I know once I get older and my kids grow up, I will NEVER EVER regret staying home with them and I am sure they will feel the same. I guarantee that would shut them up :flower:
 
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all4fun said:
What I want to know is why does it have to be a SAHM vs WOHM debate? We're all moms, we're all doing what we think is best for our family. Shouldn't we just support each other as parents and put petty differences about parenting choices aside? It just seems a little silly to me.
I could not agree more! I think anyone who feels the need to debate or criticize someone elses childcare/career decisions is probably feeling insecure about the choices they have made.
 
I am a SAHM and one of our friends once told me that since I stay at home all day, that I don't have to do anything-HELLO, what the heck was she talking about???????? I have a bunch of things to do. It doesn't mean that I can just sit back and that the house will get cleaned, the laundry will get done, the meals will get taken care of, someone will watch my child..... I have never had a day to just sit back and relax.
 
Of all our friends that have babies, I am the only one that was able to stay home with my son. I think that I am one of the few SAHM moms that actually realize how LUCKY I am to be able to stay home with me son. Most SAHM think that it is the only choice and working moms are horrible. It wasn't a choice for me, it was a privilege. There are so many people that want desperately to stay home with their children, but sometimes it is impossible. You really need the 2nd income. It isn't about prestige or having a big career. It is about providing for the child that you brought into the world. I think that working moms have it a lot harder than the SAHM. Working moms are constantly judged for returning back to work when their children are young.

I completely disagree with dtsaos. I think that a person that buys a $500K house in a nice neighborhood IS looking out for the future, even if it means that she will have to go back to work when her children are born, as least she knows, she lives in nice neighborhood, in a good school district. She is not living in trashy neighborhood where she will be afraid to let her child play ball in the yard or send him to the local public high school. I think that we all make conscious efforts that we feel are going to benefit ourselves and our children.
 
mommytotwo said:
I am a SAHM and one of our friends once told me that since I stay at home all day, that I don't have to do anything-HELLO, what the heck was she talking about???????? I have a bunch of things to do. It doesn't mean that I can just sit back and that the house will get cleaned, the laundry will get done, the meals will get taken care of, someone will watch my child..... I have never had a day to just sit back and relax.

Having nothing to do sounds real good to me right now. I'm getting ready for my hubby's bday party that I am putting together tonight.

If I could afford it I would have a live in housekeeper, cook and nanny and I WOULD DO NOTHING!!!!!! :rotfl:
 
Nope, not really anyway.

I however do feel that I have some extra time to volunteer and help out a friend in a pinch if they need emergency childcare-IF and only if I have no other obligations that day. If said "friend/relative/whatever" gets pissy because I said no then I'd make sure that I'm no longer available for future emergencies ;) . Sure I have more time on my hands and frankly I think its great BUT...my oldest is about to start "the big school"-Kindergarten and in a year we'll send my youngest to preschool, this year we will be doing soccer for the oldest and dance for both. In between activities, I have to grocery shop, prepare meals, clean laundry, pay the bills, and at least keep the house resonably picked up. I tell you what though this beats my hour (one way) commute each day and paying all but $50 or so of my paycheck to the daycare and dealing with my witchy boss everyday (she was one of "those" PhDs). FWIW I had been in my position 10 years and made a pretty darned good salary, but that's how expensive daycare is up here in MA. It makes DH's life easier too, sure I expect him to help out some (he is a member of the family too) but not as much as if I were working as well. I think people do get jealous, but I also remember how big of a leap it was for us to actually Realize that we could afford it if I stayed home. It was the best decision we have ever made together and we are so much better off for it-both financially (yeah, financially, I think Uncle Sam wants Moms to stay home-ie; we dropped a tax bracket :smooth: ) and emotionally. Sure sometimes I get bored outta my gourd, (we live in the boonies) and sometimes its like I'm the energizer bunny, but it was like that at work sometimes too. This comming October will be my 2 year SAHM-aversary and I still don't know what I'm 'gonna do'. Sometimes I worry about how as time goes on I loose my lab skills but most of the time I'm trying to scheme to be able to stay home longer.



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I am a SAHM and have been for 5 years now. I used to be Marketing Manager at a local area TV station, and well respected in business and community affairs. Everyone was shocked at my decision to up and quit to raise my 2 young sons. I have always been proud to be a SAHM and I NEVER have any extra time on my hands. Running a household and raising a family (not to mention husband :0 is equal to 2 full time jobs.
There was a GREAT article in Forbes on Mother's day (2003 or 2004 I think) that stated with economic reality and much research regarding what the salary would be of a SAHM if we were paid cash. The article broke down hours, days, months and years SAHM's work. The stated that if SAHM's were paid money for the work they do the annual salary would be $276,000.00 (equal to 2 full time jobs). 2 FULL TIME JOBS PEOPLE!! There are other people out there that feel our pain and know all the long hard hours we devote to our families. I don't know what calculations they used for this article, but I know that the computations were lengthy and detailed. The end of the article was priceless, it stated from the author of the article "Mom, thanks for all the work you do, at my age of 38, I figure you've earned more than a couple of million dollars. I could never repay you for all you've done for me and our family, but know that you are the person I love and respect most in the world...Great Job!! (this was from memory not a quote)
No amount of money in the world could ever replace the honor, pride, love and sacrifice I gladly give my children every day. I feel so blessed to be able to be a SAHM and stand up proud when people ask me what I do for a living. I reply "I am blessed to be able to spend the maximum amount of time I possibly can raising, teaching, loving and watching my children grow. When my children are well adjusted adults, all the hard work I put in right now will look me in the eye every day for the rest of my life. Good work if you can get it!! To all the other hardworking SAHM's out there, be proud and honored that you are able to do the work we do. I salute you! Keep up the good (albeit hard) work!!
 
Any good or service is only worth what someone will pay for it. Does anyone actually think someone would pay that kind of money? Sign me up for $276,000 per year--it is a lot more than I make now.

I don't view motherhood as a job. It is who you are when you decide to have kids. :flower:
 
PatricenPete said:
I think that we all make conscious efforts that we feel are going to benefit ourselves and our children.

So true...that's why I waited many years to have my baby, because to me and to dh it was Priority #1 that I be a SAHM and homeschool our children. It was hard waiting, but very worth it!! :sunny:
 
hmmm, in my experience, it has depended on who I am talking to. For many years, it seemed like I was always "out of the norm". When I worked, the neighborhood was full of at-home mothers. When we moved, and I stayed at home, suddenly the neighborhood was full of working moms!

I haven't received any negative comments; if anything, the women I've met are jealous that I am able to stay home (or that I want to, not sure :) )
 
PatricenPete said:
I completely disagree with dtsaos. I think that a person that buys a $500K house in a nice neighborhood IS looking out for the future, even if it means that she will have to go back to work when her children are born, as least she knows, she lives in nice neighborhood, in a good school district. She is not living in trashy neighborhood where she will be afraid to let her child play ball in the yard or send him to the local public high school. I think that we all make conscious efforts that we feel are going to benefit ourselves and our children.

A bit OT and I'm not flaming, just saying that price tags do not necessarily buy security.--
In our area, the more affluent districts have the worst drug problems in their highschools. One of those local highschools had 4 heroine overdoses in one school year! Some of us who live in the less affluent areas (not a "trashy neighborhood", by any means) wonder if it's bc the wealthier kids have more money to buy the drugs. (??)
 
crazymomof4 said:
A bit OT and I'm not flaming, just saying that price tags do not necessarily buy security.--
In our area, the more affluent districts have the worst drug problems in their highschools. One of those local highschools had 4 heroine overdoses in one school year! Some of us who live in the less affluent areas (not a "trashy neighborhood", by any means) wonder if it's bc the wealthier kids have more money to buy the drugs. (??)

I have to say that a half a million bucks here in New England buys "a little nicer than average"...NOT super-fantastic. Also, we don't care about the school system as we will homeschool. There are plenty of middle-class homes that are more affordable yet not in a "bad area". And I grew up/went to school in a very rich neighborhood and agree that money can't buy happiness or safety for your children! Heck, someone shot himself to death at school during lunch when I was a sophomore! :sad2: I totally understand that some moms might think that expensive house or new cars improve the quality of their family's overall lifestyle, but I still think my time is more valuable to my son than anything money could ever buy. JMO, though! :grouphug:
I don't care if moms choose to work or stay at home, but obviously I agree with the logic of the stay at home moms since that is what I've chosen to do (and I have a graduate degree and some good earning potential, too).
 
crazymomof4 said:
A bit OT and I'm not flaming, just saying that price tags do not necessarily buy security.--
In our area, the more affluent districts have the worst drug problems in their highschools. One of those local highschools had 4 heroine overdoses in one school year! Some of us who live in the less affluent areas (not a "trashy neighborhood", by any means) wonder if it's bc the wealthier kids have more money to buy the drugs. (??)


Thank you! BTW, the area she lives in is expensive because it is a five minute drive to the city. the other neighborhoods she debated about were fine, family oriented places, but the commute to work would've been longer. The thing is, her house and a few of the houses around her are absolutely georgeous, but within a couple of blocks there are more average and even run down looking homes. Her husband also complained to us that he's not too thrilled about some of the people that live in their neighborhood. I would never say that someone should go live in a drug ridden unsafe area with children if they had the ability to live some where better. All things have to be considered, but there's no way that most parents are faced with one or the other-"either we live in this piece of sh-- neighborhood and get to stay home with the kids or we have to buy a half milliion dollar home and put the kids in day care full time to afford to live there."- come on people there are always other options...
 
I work for 2 reasons:

#1 My son is now 8 and in 3rd grade. I would go stir crazy all day sitting at home looking at the walls. My house is clean and orderly. I love my job and I have a wonderful boss that understands the demands of having children. If I need to take off for something she lets me off. Nothing can beat a wonderful boss that is kid friendly.

#2 We live in Florida and the Public school system stinks!! I don't have the patience for home schooling. For those of you that do that is a wonderful option. However, my son does go to private school. It is not cheap and the teachers love the kids. Also, in my neighborhood there are not many kids in the area. So my son gets to play with his friends from school.

Being a mom is the hardest job that anyone will ever do. I applaude all the moms out there. Whether they are SAHM or WOHM they are all special and deserve praise. It shouldn't be an issue of whether who is the more caring mother, or who loves their children more. We all do what we feel is best for our families.
 
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