Disney Skyliner (Gondola Transportation System) Read Post 1 Now Open!

Okay Disney, it has been nearly a week. Can we get an update on what the deal is?
I've been here almost a week now (arrived on Sunday), and am happy to report that the Food and Wine booths are fully operational! :drinking1👍:drinking1

As for the Skyliner, as of this afternoon it was still in unoccupied test mode. No accidents have been reported since Saturday and they have been running (in test mode) so that is a good thing!
 

This isn’t just a roll of the dice. AC has been discussed to the biggest lengths in this thread. It’s not reliable and not common. It was no surprise to those familiar with these systems that Disney didn’t have AC.

nah... it’s for sure a roll of the dice. Disney took the less expensive way out.
 
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Going to be in disney november 15th staying att aoa , will the skyliner be open?

No one in this thread knows.

I can’t imagine they’ll just keep running it with no people in it for another month though. Count me in the “it’ll open sooner rather than later” camp.
 
I've been here almost a week now (arrived on Sunday), and am happy to report that the Food and Wine booths are fully operational! :drinking1👍:drinking1

As for the Skyliner, as of this afternoon it was still in unoccupied test mode. No accidents have been reported since Saturday and they have been running (in test mode) so that is a good thing!

“No accidents have been reported since Saturday.”

Thats really awesome news for a transportation system that opened a week ago.
 
nah... it’s for sure a roll of the dice. Disney took the less expensive way out.

No, actually they went with a state of the art system from the top manufacturer in this field, which was probably one of the most expensive options for a aerial gondola system. There is nothing inherently unsafe about these systems, they have an extremely good safety record.
 
I think there is a bright side to this since it happened early on and during "relative"slow times and milder weather. Had it happened during peak times or during the high heat of summer it could have been a far different scenario. This allows Disney to work out the kinks now and figure out why the gondolas bunched up, why it took so long to clear, why it stranded people in the air for hours, and why the rescue efforts were inefficient. Also, why the constant stoppages were occurring. To me, it really is still in the testing phase because it is so new. I know the system was tested for months, both empty and occupied with weights and people, but it is not the same as the general public riding the gondolas on a daily basis and continuous operation by the CMs. The weak spots have been exposed and I believe Disney will do everything in its power to fix them since this system cost them a fortune and it is simply bad PR. I don't think Disney, however, handled the situation well from a communication standpoint, both during and after the incident, which is inexcusable.
 
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That article is far from conclusive on how this would function. High charging rate, would be accompanied by faster-than-a-battery discharging rate. There's a reason capacitors aren't used in place of batteries everywhere.

When following one of the links in the article, it states that these are used on gondolas that make a "5 minute trip."

Googling further, I discovered something surprising. That gondola system had an outage that lasted 40 minutes about a month after it opened.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/o...ip-cable-car-breaks-down-in-searing-heat.html
In the above article, a passenger that had ridden on a normal, 5-minute trip, had this to say: "“When we got on there it took only about five minutes and it was very hot so I can’t imagine what it was like up there for more than half and hour.”

So, it's debatable that this Emirates gondola line is a quality example of air conditioning working on a gondola.

Whether or not air conditioning is technologically possible, I was opposed to it because of this exact scenario that occurred at Disney. Here's why:

1) There is just no real engineering answer to practically air condition a gondola for 3+ hours in Florida. The London AC gondola system that is being held up as the example of this can't even cool one for 5 minutes - in London.

2) An AC gondola stuck in the air for 3 hours would be way more uncomfortable than a gondola designed for passive cooling - because the AC will quit long before 3 hours. A gondola that is designed for AC would not also be equipped with the same amount of rider-controlled passive cooling because it would defeat the AC when people opened the windows. So, window use by the riders would be severely limited, by design. Even emergency windows would not be designed to cool as well as an entire cabin that was designed with passive cooling.

A passively cooled gondola is not as comfortable as sitting in air conditioning. It's just not. But it is the only practical type of gondola to use for comfort and even safety. This breakdown really proves that because no one has ever proposed an AC solution that lasts for 3 hours.

Almost forgot...here is the link to the thread that expands this discussion (post #103 I think). I am interested to hear your technical rationale as to why energy storage would not work in this application.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/t...ed-no-discussion.3773590/page-6#post-61163116
 
I’m a little surprised it’s not up and running again since there seemed to be signs of it a day or two ago. 😔
 
My thoughts (and you know I have great experience because I worked at Skyway in the late 70’s about a dozen times 😂💕)
They need to make the loading area longer (maybe change the queue area so people have more time to board)
The crash/crunch issue happened because of the repeated stoping and starting . Are they stopping and starting during this testing faze? Stopping and starting should be part of the testing.
 
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My thoughts (and you know I have great experience because I worked at Skyway in the late 70’s about a dozen times 😂💕)
They need to make the loading area longer (maybe change the queue area so people have more time to board)
The crash/crunch issue happened because of the repeated stoping and starting . Are they stopping and starting during this testing faze? Stopping and starting should be part of the testing.

I agree with this. We were a group of 9 and trying to get all of us (including 3 small kids and one double stroller) into one we definitely felt rushed trying to make it on. We were in fact the culprits that made it stop at a point because we had to reload our car with the stroller going in first instead of last.
 














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