Cutting in line..

[Superspectral]

I felt so bad this last trip....I lost my family for a beat in Epcot when I stopped at the b-room and when I found them they were in line for spaceship earth. I was going to wait for them but they wanted me to get in line with them...which I did. They were only a few parties up from the end. Was that bad??? I felt guilty....I think I may be too much of an obsessive rule follower.

Worst case scenario: SE broke down shortly after you left and the last person in line knows he didn't get to ride because of you.

Best case scenario: Nobody noticed.

Probable scenario: Your family was the target of a certain amount of stink-eye. Mostly forgotten and soon lost to history.

As long as you believe it was an extraordinary situation (that is this is not your standard operating procedure for bathroom breaks) then IMHO hakuna matata.

 

[JeanfromBNA]

I think WDW could easily solve a lot of this by posting signs at each ride that your entire group must enter the line at the same time in order to ride together.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Yes but your example is of the extreme. The likelyhood of everyone in the line minding a spot for another person is pretty much never going to happen. If one or two people "join" the line, your wait is almost identical to what you thought it would be. The most 1-2 people will add to your wait time is 30 seconds - 1 minute Is that so terrible?

this is the reason I disagree with this statement. even though this family would have been in the same car anyway, or been in front of you anyway, YOU didn't know this when you chose to get in the line!

we check the stated wait time.. if we think it's too long, we don't join it. if we like the stated time, we do. esp. now with the strict enforcement of FP return times, and the possibility of an ADR (along with various other reasons), if everyonw had a "placeholder" in line, and the rest of the family went off to do other things, or sat on a bench nearby for a while, etc. the stated wait time would change drastically.
If someone in you party has to go the the bathroom, stop there, then all get in line together.

if, however, someone has to leave the line to use the bathroom, up their blood sugar, whatever, that is ok with me.. they are truly rejoining the line.

 

[CaliBear]

Yes but your example is of the extreme. The likelyhood of everyone in the line minding a spot for another person is pretty much never going to happen. If one or two people "join" the line, your wait is almost identical to what you thought it would be. The most 1-2 people will add to your wait time is 30 seconds - 1 minute Is that so terrible?

Princess took the words out of my.. um, fingers. Of course if everyone in the line was holding a space for others it would be problematic, not to mention absurd, but that isn't what I see going on. I see occasional rejoins of one or two people to a group or individual. I don't have a problem with this.

I didn't realize FP return times weren't being strictly enforced, but apparently Disney realized and thought it was a problem. I would think if people holding line space for family members was a problem, Disney would make a change in procedure like they're doing with the FP.

 

[tlkgt76]

if, however, someone has to leave the line to use the bathroom, up their blood sugar, whatever, that is ok with me.. they are truly rejoining the line.

Exactly. With the blood sugar issue I DID enter the line the same time as the rest of my family and I wouldn't ask them to run up ahead of me while I went to the bathroom. With one daughter I usually make her go in with me and try to potty when I have to go, so then my husband goes at the same time as well to make it easy, therefore we wouldn't have anybody else to stand in line for us anyway. hahaha

I really think we're talking about two different things here. One person, or one parent with a kid stepping out of the line they were already in to hit the potty or for a medical reason is NOT the same thing as a group of people pushing through the crowd to cut in line.

For somebody that gets really bothered by one person stepping out of line then back in when they were already ahead of you to begin with, I'd ask "How is it hurting you? Explain to me how moving slightly to the left or right, if at all, damaged you or your property."

Life is short. It's so much easier on the soul to pick your battles and lighten up than waste time getting super upset about the little things.

 

[Suellen]

I don't generally let it bother me. BUT the line queues are generally not conducive to leaving and coming back without encroaching on someone's personal space. All leave together and explain to a CM - we have been given a FP to return every single time.

If we weren't given one we would rejoin the line at the end. JMHO!

No matter what anyone HERE will tell you - at least some GAC's get you FP access at every ride that offers FP. for some reason people don't want anyone to know.

 

[Robbi]

Exactly. With the blood sugar issue I DID enter the line the same time as the rest of my family and I wouldn't ask them to run up ahead of me while I went to the bathroom. With one daughter I usually make her go in with me and try to potty when I have to go, so then my husband goes at the same time as well to make it easy, therefore we wouldn't have anybody else to stand in line for us anyway. hahaha

I really think we're talking about two different things here. One person, or one parent with a kid stepping out of the line they were already in to hit the potty or for a medical reason is NOT the same thing as a group of people pushing through the crowd to cut in line.

For somebody that gets really bothered by one person stepping out of line then back in when they were already ahead of you to begin with, I'd ask "How is it hurting you? Explain to me how moving slightly to the left or right, if at all, damaged you or your property."

Life is short. It's so much easier on the soul to pick your battles and lighten up than waste time getting super upset about the little things.

You're right. If a couple of family members would like to rejoin their families, I have no problem.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Exactly! I think some people are failing to see the two very different examples. I just don't let any of it upset me, I'm in Disney World! If I get upset at one or two people stepping back into the line, all I'm doing is letting them ruin my experience because they won't even know that I exist!

I really think we're talking about two different things here. One person, or one parent with a kid stepping out of the line they were already in to hit the potty or for a medical reason is NOT the same thing as a group of people pushing through the crowd to cut in line.

For somebody that gets really bothered by one person stepping out of line then back in when they were already ahead of you to begin with, I'd ask "How is it hurting you? Explain to me how moving slightly to the left or right, if at all, damaged you or your property."

Life is short. It's so much easier on the soul to pick your battles and lighten up than waste time getting super upset about the little things.

Princess took the words out of my.. um, fingers. Of course if everyone in the line was holding a space for others it would be problematic, not to mention absurd, but that isn't what I see going on. I see occasional rejoins of one or two people to a group or individual. I don't have a problem with this.

I didn't realize FP return times weren't being strictly enforced, but apparently Disney realized and thought it was a problem. I would think if people holding line space for family members was a problem, Disney would make a change in procedure like they're doing with the FP.

Awww you call me Princess! I have no issue with rejoins. That is a very different issue to 20 people just trying to push to the front when they've never been in line before. If Disney isn't worried about it, I'm not either!

 

[ttintagel]

I felt so bad this last trip....I lost my family for a beat in Epcot when I stopped at the b-room and when I found them they were in line for spaceship earth. I was going to wait for them but they wanted me to get in line with them...which I did. They were only a few parties up from the end. Was that bad??? I felt guilty....I think I may be too much of an obsessive rule follower.

That happened to me, and I did rejoin my group, but only after asking the people I was getting in front of if they minded. I would never just blow through, assuming it was OK.

 

[aaarcher86]

Obviously you don't get that there are diseases that affect the bladder, etc.

If the card can help a kid who gets skitchy standing in crowds it sure should help someone with a physical disability.

Unless it is a group that is bringing 10 people through a tight line I could care less if a person comes or goes. I tend to assume that there is a reason most people do such things, and they know their tolerances and their issues far better then I do.

*Obviously* you didn't bother to read all of my posts and/or the conversation in which I made that comment

Clearly the GAC is for people with a disease that effects their bladder and for people with other physical disabilities and I never said otherwise.

 

[kaligal]

Disney allows line cutting.

If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

I don't know if there are other theme parks or amusement parks that allow line cutting, but other than Disney, I've never been to one.

 

[LilyWDW]

I should mention, the only time I have ever seen someone cutting in line at Disney, the CMs DID stop them. They were told they had to go to the back of the line. It was TSM at rope drop when the CMs tell you not to enter the line until the whole party is together.

 

[maxiesmom]

Disney allows line cutting.

If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

I don't know if there are other theme parks or amusement parks that allow line cutting, but other than Disney, I've never been to one.

I don't think they allow it so much as ignore it most of the time. You will occasionally see a CM dealing with line cutters, so it is not allowed as a rule.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

FACT...........I have seen and have had Cm's remove line cutters a number of time, however somtimes it is not enforced.....but it is NOT allowed.

AKK

 

[ScholarAndAGent]

FACT...........I have seen and have had Cm's remove line cutters a number of time, however somtimes it is not enforced.....but it is NOT allowed.

AKK

As have I. But I'm not one to sit quietly. Everyone will know that they skipped if I'm there.

 

[kaligal]

It is totally allowed. It's their policy to not do anything about it.

Even if people push their way through the line, they do nothing about it.

Seriously. Allowed.

I am honestly shocked to hear all these reports of staff doing anything about it. They are not supposed to and usually do no not do anything at all.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Since more and more reports are being posted that it is not allowed. Since more and more cutters are being removed form line , seems the rule was no cutting......seriously.......NOT ALLOWED.......

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

As have I. But I'm not one to sit quietly. Everyone will know that they skipped if I'm there.

My policy as well. I have no propblem being loud to remove a cutter or have them removed by a CM. Works everytime!

AKK

 

[kaligal]

Since more and more reports are being posted that it is not allowed. Since more and more cutters are being removed form line , seems the rule was no cutting......seriously.......NOT ALLOWED.......

AKK

Stop by Guest Services and ask them what the policy is. Tell them that you don't like people to cut in front of you and ask them what you should do if it happens and how it will be handled.

Then see what happens when people cut.

If you think Disney is big on stopping this, you are very, very mistaken.

They can cut. They can push and shove their way through line.

Disney's official stance: "We cannot control guest behavior."

Sad, but true.

Line jumping is TOTALLY allowed in Disney parks, as is pushing and shoving people who don't see you coming.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

And yet many reports of how it is stopped.

How CM's do, maybe not always, but do often step up and stop it.


AKK