Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[LSUmiss]

I think what bothers me the most about your posts is to have this information your source would have to be pretty high in the food chain at Disney and that person isn’t going to divulge this much information to someone they know is going to go and spread it on a message board. Disney for sure monitors sites like this for leaks (all companies have staff on the lookout for leaks) and it would be easy for them to track who leaked this info and your source would be fired. Especially when you’re so blatant in telling us its a high ranking employee. Plus, unless your source is Chapek or someone on that level, they’re not going to know the abundance of info you’re posting.

Hmm idk. My cousin is pretty high up at Seaworld & has given family updates in email. She has no idea that I post on Dis although I haven’t posted anything about seaworld b/c I just don’t care that much. But if she had wdw intel I would!

 

[Searc]

May is in less than a week

This is all prep work, they most likely won't open Disney Springs until May, first few weeks of May.

I imagine we will get an announcement this week from Disney right around when the schedules go out for CM's for Disney Springs for the next week or two.

@yulilin3 That would be today, right?

 

[halfpintpeggy]

I have no "insider knowledge", just sharing my own personal info. My neighbor works for Starbucks, and they've been told not to expect their on-site stores to open for at least a full year. My niece was accepted for the international program this year, which was obviously canceled, and when she asked if she could apply for 2021, she was told no (not because she was a poor candidate, because there would be no international program). I could imagine canceling the international program could indicate WDW's preference for full-time local CMs, but the Starbucks thing doesn't sound promising for re-opening any time soon.

Does your neighbor work for a Starbucks located on WDW property? I’m curious, when DS opens, why wouldn’t at least the Starbucks location there open. And also - people want their coffee! If onsite Starbucks aren’t open, WDW needs to step up their coffee game in a BIG way!

 

[skeeter31]

Hmm idk. My cousin is pretty high up at Seaworld & has given family updates in email. She has no idea that I post on Dis although I haven’t posted anything about seaworld b/c I just don’t care that much. But if she had wdw intel I would!

Right but the problem is companies have ways of figuring out where the leak is coming from and have people scanning online message boards, Twitter, Reddit, etc. if enough info is included in a post (like the one we’re discussing) if it’s accurate of what they’re discussing, only a few people will be privy to that info and the company would quickly be able to discern who leaked it. By posting it here, this poster could legitimately putting his source at risk of losing their job. That’s why I don’t think it’s accurate at all.

If Disney wanted the info leaked, they would do it on their terms, not through a poster getting leaked info from a “source”

 

[mshanson3121]

https://sanduskyregister.com/news/2...ment-parks-face-challenges-in-pandemics-wake/
I thought this quote from the Cedar Point CEO was relevant.
"None of the major park operators at this time know when they're going to be able to open officially," Spiegel said.

As well as:

"The government plans to start reopening the economy, but Alexakos said parks would need four to six weeks notice to prepare for openings.

"You can't flip a switch and open. You have to start the engines slowly," Speigel said."

So, if DeSantis decides to give the go ahead Monday (for example), that would definitely mean June. Though Disney is also a much bigger company with a lot more pieces that need to fall into place, and I could see it taking even longer.

Also:

"When some of the bans are lifted, and people start going out, parks have to evaluate if it makes sense to partially open for the season," Speigel said. "One of the questions they need to find an answer to is: If we open, will they come?"

While I know they were discussing this from the viewpoint of dealing with partial year seasons, I think it's a valid question for Disney, too. I know we all have thoughts on the recent analyst forecast, but, this is the very thing he was discussing in his prediction - would it even make sense for Disney to open if they have to take such stringent measures that will greatly reduce the park experience? Will enough people still come for that? Will the extra operating costs for following such measures really make opening for reduced crowds worth it? Will there be enough people for them with international borders still shut down? Many states still struggling with the virus etc? Can they really survive initially on locals only?

I don't think he's right, but I think his reasoning is valid. If Disney opens and they lose $10M a day, that's better than $30M a day, as it seems to me anyways. But, does Disney see it that way?

 

[LSUmiss]

Right but the problem is companies have ways of figuring out where the leak is coming from and have people scanning online message boards, Twitter, Reddit, etc. if enough info is included in a post (like the one we’re discussing) if it’s accurate of what they’re discussing, only a few people will be privy to that info and the company would quickly be able to discern who leaked it. By posting it here, this poster could legitimately putting his source at risk of losing their job. That’s why I don’t think it’s accurate at all.

If Disney wanted the info leaked, they would do it on their terms, not through a poster getting leaked info from a “source”

Another possibility is that the source doesn’t know he posts &/or doesn’t expect he would post so doesn’t realize they could be jeopardizing anything. That’s my point about my cousin.

 

[2Lunds]

Does your neighbor work for a Starbucks located on WDW property? I’m curious, when DS opens, why wouldn’t at least the Starbucks location there open. And also - people want their coffee! If onsite Starbucks aren’t open, WDW needs to step up their coffee game in a BIG way!

She's a district manager here in Canada, she doesn't work in any particular location.

 

[UkDisney73]

Just guessing, but I'm thinking it would be roughly a month after CMs go back to work when parks open, and possibly a bit longer after all maintenance goes back. So that will at least give some people some warning of what to do concerning their own plans. If no one is back yet and they haven't told anyone they're coming back then the beginning of June is incredibly unlikely. No basis for this other than being an opinionated Brit lol.

 

[halfpintpeggy]

Hmm idk. My cousin is pretty high up at Seaworld & has given family updates in email. She has no idea that I post on Dis although I haven’t posted anything about seaworld b/c I just don’t care that much. But if she had wdw intel I would!

We’d love some info on the Sea World forum. Just sayin

 

[Searc]

Also, not sure how many people follow NBA, but yesterday they said teams can start using their facilities again if their state opens them up. Why Disney related? Because they are going to need to practice before getting into games again... possibly at Disney that timing would line up with NBA season continuing at WDW in Mid May and playoffs starting in June.

One person at a time, no team practices and only if their state is not under stay at home orders. Not much difference than currently.

 

[yulilin3]

@yulilin3 That would be today, right?

today's schedule covers the week of May 3rd through the 9th

 

[rteetz]

Not quite sure how Disney could stop Uber and Lyft from operating. They don’t have any management over those. Those are completely separate from Disney and Disney uses the Lyft platform for Minnie Vans.

 

[yulilin3]

Just guessing, but I'm thinking it would be roughly a month after CMs go back to work when parks open, and possibly a bit longer after all maintenance goes back. So that will at least give some people some warning of what to do concerning their own plans. If no one is back yet and they haven't told anyone they're coming back then the beginning of June is incredibly unlikely. No basis for this other than being an opinionated Brit lol.

it won't be a month. The attractions have been getting maintenance through out this, also custodial staff (although limited) has been on property making sure everything stays clean
All other operational CM will need less than a week to learn any new procedures

 

[Searc]

I don't disagree. I'm guessing this CM went way over the line. There are so many rumors out there it is hard to see the truth.

Until Disney announces opening, there is no truth. I really hope people are not foolish enough to change their plans based on posts from a message board.

 

[Searc]

Not quite sure how Disney could stop Uber and Lyft from operating. They don’t have any management over those. Those are completely separate from Disney and Disney uses the Lyft platform for Minnie Vans.

Exactly. Most "leaked" info doesn't pass the smell test.

 

[yulilin3]

Not quite sure how Disney could stop Uber and Lyft from operating. They don’t have any management over those. Those are completely separate from Disney and Disney uses the Lyft platform for Minnie Vans.

maybe by blocking people from requesting from Disney property/going to Disney property? I don't know how that works, just spitballing

 

[Mom2Anna&Elsa]

Hmm idk. My cousin is pretty high up at Seaworld & has given family updates in email. She has no idea that I post on Dis although I haven’t posted anything about seaworld b/c I just don’t care that much. But if she had wdw intel I would!

Out of curiosity, what has your cousin said? I presumed that Universal, Disney, & SeaWorld would have similar procedures for reopening since they are all on the committee.

 

[jknezek]

Not quite sure how Disney could stop Uber and Lyft from operating. They don’t have any management over those. Those are completely separate from Disney and Disney uses the Lyft platform for Minnie Vans.

I was wondering this as well. You could keep making the drop off point worse but not sure how you ban them. Especially given the partnership with Lyft.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Not quite sure how Disney could stop Uber and Lyft from operating. They don’t have any management over those. Those are completely separate from Disney and Disney uses the Lyft platform for Minnie Vans.

That would be an awkward phone call... “hey Lyft! Disney here. Say, can you block everything but Minnie Vans for all of the WDW radius?”

 

[rteetz]

maybe by blocking people from requesting from Disney property/going to Disney property? I don't know how that works, just spitballing

That still doesn’t make sense especially when you have to use the Lyft app to get a Minnie Van. I’m sure Lyft isn’t going to let Disney use their app but then not allow their drivers to be used on property either.