#### DopeyBadger

##### Imagathoner

- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015

Hi all,

I figured runners of all the different runDisney races would be interested in the following information. I've got a confirmed set of POT (proof of time) cutoffs for the 2:30 HM and 5:00 M times based on the runDisney race equivalency calculation.

So, if you are looking to have a POT submittable time, then your POT should be faster than what is listed above. So a 1:07:50 10k is fast enough to be a POT submittable time. But a 1:08:30 10k does not appear to be fast enough to be considered POT submittable.

Since we have these, I've used this to help convert what I believe to be very close to the corral cutoffs. Since runDisney has moved away from the "lots of corrals with set number of people model" to a "small number of corral based on a set POT and do mini-wave" system, then these corral cutoffs should presumably be translatable across all the runDisney weekends (Princess, Marathon, Avengers, Star Wars, etc.).

The orange values are the confirmed cutoffs and the rest are just educated guesses based on math.

To read this chart, let's say you wanted to be in Corral B of a HM (or HM with Challenge). Then runDisney seems to have placed that at a 2:00 HM race equivalent. So you would need to run at least a POT under 54:37 for 10k, 1:06:12 for 12k, 1:23:46 for 15k, or 1:31:12 for 10 miler.

Let's say you were aiming for Corral D of the Marathon, or Goofy, or Dopey Challenge (Goofy and Dopey are seeded based on the Marathon POT conversion). Then you'd need at least a 1:46:03 10 miler, or a 2:22:00 HM.

If you select a non-POT submittable finish, then you'll be asked for an "estimated finish".

If you choose 2:46-3:00 HM, then you will be placed in Corral F for the HM. If you choose 3:16-3:30, then you will be placed in Corral H.

Same goes for the 5k/10k (either as a solo event or as a challenge). What you choose from the drop-down will determine Corral position for that event.

I hope this helps and let me know if there is any confusion!

ETA: I updated the race equivalency corral breakdown chart into a more readable format.

ETA (3/4/2019): Based on 2019 Princess, I have amended the estimated cutoffs for a HM POT.

ETA (7/24/2019): Did a search for all POT related discussions with confirmed conversions from runDIsney. Used the average R value from those confirmed conversions to slightly amend the corral estimated cutoffs chart. New version depicted above.

ETA (3/10/2020): After contacting runDisney, I have received confirmation that the 2:30 HM POT cutoff is the new standard moving forward starting with Wine and Dine 2020. They provided me with the conversions necessary for each of the submittable distances as seen in the new updated chart at the beginning.

ETA (4/2/2020): runDisney has updated their website to show the new POT cutoff for the marathon distance is 5 hours. A new updated chart as been added and will be updated with official cutoffs when that information is available.

I figured runners of all the different runDisney races would be interested in the following information. I've got a confirmed set of POT (proof of time) cutoffs for the 2:30 HM and 5:00 M times based on the runDisney race equivalency calculation.

So, if you are looking to have a POT submittable time, then your POT should be faster than what is listed above. So a 1:07:50 10k is fast enough to be a POT submittable time. But a 1:08:30 10k does not appear to be fast enough to be considered POT submittable.

Since we have these, I've used this to help convert what I believe to be very close to the corral cutoffs. Since runDisney has moved away from the "lots of corrals with set number of people model" to a "small number of corral based on a set POT and do mini-wave" system, then these corral cutoffs should presumably be translatable across all the runDisney weekends (Princess, Marathon, Avengers, Star Wars, etc.).

The orange values are the confirmed cutoffs and the rest are just educated guesses based on math.

To read this chart, let's say you wanted to be in Corral B of a HM (or HM with Challenge). Then runDisney seems to have placed that at a 2:00 HM race equivalent. So you would need to run at least a POT under 54:37 for 10k, 1:06:12 for 12k, 1:23:46 for 15k, or 1:31:12 for 10 miler.

Let's say you were aiming for Corral D of the Marathon, or Goofy, or Dopey Challenge (Goofy and Dopey are seeded based on the Marathon POT conversion). Then you'd need at least a 1:46:03 10 miler, or a 2:22:00 HM.

If you select a non-POT submittable finish, then you'll be asked for an "estimated finish".

If you choose 2:46-3:00 HM, then you will be placed in Corral F for the HM. If you choose 3:16-3:30, then you will be placed in Corral H.

Same goes for the 5k/10k (either as a solo event or as a challenge). What you choose from the drop-down will determine Corral position for that event.

I hope this helps and let me know if there is any confusion!

ETA: I updated the race equivalency corral breakdown chart into a more readable format.

ETA (3/4/2019): Based on 2019 Princess, I have amended the estimated cutoffs for a HM POT.

ETA (7/24/2019): Did a search for all POT related discussions with confirmed conversions from runDIsney. Used the average R value from those confirmed conversions to slightly amend the corral estimated cutoffs chart. New version depicted above.

ETA (3/10/2020): After contacting runDisney, I have received confirmation that the 2:30 HM POT cutoff is the new standard moving forward starting with Wine and Dine 2020. They provided me with the conversions necessary for each of the submittable distances as seen in the new updated chart at the beginning.

ETA (4/2/2020): runDisney has updated their website to show the new POT cutoff for the marathon distance is 5 hours. A new updated chart as been added and will be updated with official cutoffs when that information is available.

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