Never truer words were written.
Knox
With all due respect, you can have disagreements without getting nasty about it. I've been on religious message boards and it doesn't get this bad, and you know what they say about religion.
Never truer words were written.
Knox
$27/day x 365 days a year = $9,855. Lets say they rent 75% of the days $9,855 x .75 = $7,391. That's a nice profit! What a magical place!![]()
With all due respect, you can have disagreements without getting nasty about it. I've been on religious message boards and it doesn't get this bad, and you know what they say about religion.
ITA. And older children riding in strollers only makes the parks more congested, which impedes the enjoyment of other guests, which makes it their business. Disney most likely gets a lot of complaints about that.
Did your parents ever get you a train set for Christmas, but you couldn't play with it because Dad was always playing with it? Ever wonder who the train set was really for![]()
As for all the flames in this thread, isn't the Dis suppossed to be "The Internet's Largest and Friendliest Disney Community"?![]()
I had a friend who did a project on disney and the real rate is like 90% and the average life is 2 years.![]()
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Wow I guess I should have read threw all the responses. My six and a half year old son is 32lbs and yes offer him a stroller when we visit ANY place that requires a lot of walking. He was born with club feet and had surgeries and YEARS worth of casting to correct them. because of all the stuff done to his feet and from being born with this condition his feet are rather sensitive. He is FAR from being over weight and even with long breaks offered several consecutive days of lots of walking and he will be in so much pain he wouldn't be able to walk. I choose to make MY son comfortable and will do anything to make his visit to WDW as enjoyable and magical as I can, so if it annoys anyone that my six year old is riding in a stroller......tough. I can't believe people would sit around and flame parents for trying to make a magical moment for their children. I'm sure if I were to watch (those of you who are voicing your displeasure so negatively) parent I would be able to pick out several thing I could ramble on about but I wouldn't do that.....Its not my place........nor yours. We all just want whats best for OUR children.
I quoted a person. My message is meant for the people he/she quoted.
88keys said:Hi all,
I am a LONG time WDW visitor -- I not only go often, but I talk about it as a vacation destination SO much to other people, that I am personally responsible for at least an additional dozen visits in the past few years. You're welcome. Thank you We appreciate your business and your recommendations - but that doesn't account for the other ten million-plus visits per year.
The Disney company is a business with shareholders, and finances have always been central to the running of the company, but the recent gouging since the economic recovery after 9/11 has been absurd and it is damaging your relationship with your loyal customer base -- the best word of mouth you have.
To whit......
1) Not only are there large ticket increases every year, last year gave us TWO That was 2006, not last year.
2) The explosion of hard ticket events mean that regular customers not only lose park hour time but also night events like the fireworks and SpectroMagic...without a refund. The Magic Kingdom's standard hours are 8 AM to 6 PM. Nobody is "losing" park time; most days/times of the year, Guests benefit from extended hours. Not only is this nonsense, but you are getting double admission for one day while cheating the first group. May we refer you back to your earlier comment, abuot Disney being a business with shareholders? This is understandable for a few tmes, but have you seen how many MNSSHPs there are this year?? We have, as a matter of fact. We scheduled them.3) The ridiculous and sudden reduction of the dining plan that has infuriated customers and waiters alike. I'm sure whoever put this through received a pay raise for their money-saving ideas, but never have so many been so angered for such nonsense.... While Disney does not customarily explain its actions to our Guests, we first feel that changes announced six month in advance of execution are not sudden; these changes were made in part in response to specific complaints and suggestions from our Guests; and while we feel our Guests can and do benefit from the Dining Plan, it is not mandatory.4) Holiday surcharges?? Because food is more expensive at Christmas? No value added, just taking away from folks --esp those not expecting it Thank you again for your comments. This, too, is a market-driven, supply and demand-based increase.
5) The stroller rental price being raised over 70%! There is a new slogan on the various boards (credit Boomhauer)
14 day SUV rental from Alamo - $377.
14 day stroller rental from Disney - $434.
Disney's audacity - Priceless. Please be advised that Guest-driven automobiles are not permitted in any of our theme parks, making this an invalid comparison.
6) This is on top of the regularly overpriced items -- parking, concessions, photopass, souvenirs, hard ticket prices, hopping prices
It is amazing how much the Parks spend on advertising, and then "abuse" their customers one they get them. Your word of mouth is eventually going to suffer. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but our love has limits.
Disney "screws" people on lots of things. $2.50 for 30c worth of soda? Come on.. That's egregious in my book. McDonalds French Fries for 4.50$ ?? A stuffed animal for $50 that cast members can get 40% off at Christmas time? How much of that is profit then?
It shouldn't matter if it is a convenience or a necessity.
IMO vacations are the time to be lazy. I'm hardly going to be sticking to my exercise regiment while at WDW (or any other vacation spot) so I'm not going to make my child excert herself if she doesn't want to. I will be taking breaks at the hotel but even so WDW is a LOT of walking for little legs. If DD gets tired I will rent her a stroller. If others don't like it, tough. You are not paying for the rental so you don't get a say.
What you said is absolutely correct. It doesn't matter one little speck what the rest of us like or dislike. ! If you want to pay the extra for the stroller, I am sure that Disney Co. will be more than happy to let you have one or two. Last February my daughter rented a double stroller for her visit. Yesterday, I said to her, "did you hear that the cost of one of those is now $31.00 per day.
After her jaw was jacked up from the floor her first statement was "well they better get used to walking for the next trip". Apparently there is a breaking point!
So if you want one, rent one. There is no law that says that the cost has to be low. Frankly, I would have walked away at the $18.00 price.
There is also a limited value for a Dole Whip. At some point it isn't worth it. As far as strollers being a necessity is concerned. No one said you couldn't have one, it's just a tad more costly. What at Disney isn't costly?
Economically speaking, when something becomes a "necessity" is exactly when the price goes up. When it is just a "wanna have" it is usually cheaper to encourage you to get it. Just from my observations they don't have to lower the price anymore to encourage the demand. The demand is there.
i am hoping that no matter how expensive they are, disney can come up with a creative way to control where the strollers are parked - like creating a "rental stroller parking area" in fantasy land that is NOT in the middle of a walkway.
Riding in Disney strollers one or two weeks in a lifetime is hardly a rampaging cause of obesity in 6 year olds. I don't think riding in a stroller on vacation is damaging anyone's health, just like I don't think an out-of-shape couple vacationing at a health spa for a week is going to improve their health by doing so.
And yet another one...sigh! No one has ever said, on this thread or others, that kids with problems regardless of age, shouldn't be using whatever means is available to enjoy a pain free visit. No one has singled out any one. No one is judging who should or shouldn't be in a stroller individually. Some look suspicious Sorry to tell ya- but this is judgmental right here. but who knows they could really need a stroller. We cannot tell, but, common sense tells one that there is a certain number that use them that really do not need them. Those are the ones we are speaking about.
What they are saying is, if a child of that age, isn't sick, isn't challenged and is riding around in a cart instead of getting much needed exercise then it is wrong in their opinion. The parent knows if it is being used for convenience or necessity and that is all that should matter. If it is being used for a convenience then this increase may just cut out a large number of those double wide monsters and make room for the rest of us. If a child needs it then they should be using them. That is what is has been said from the beginning. If you have a real need then you have no real reason to be upset by these messages. We agree with you. If Disney has increased the price to control the numbers out there then you can put your anger toward those that have been using them and really not needing them. They have unwillingly created the problem.