Wedding Debt- advice

I have been married for 16 years. We spent about $6500 on our wedding and it was lovely.

To be honest, I have not been spending my entire life wishing my wedding was something else. It was one day. In the grand scheme of things, it was the vows that were important, not the party.

My advice is to not go into debt. Save the money for something that will contribute to your marriage, not the wedding.

Congratulations, and good luck with whatever you decide.

Denae

I haven't read all the replies but this post sums up my experience precisely. We spend the same amount but it was only 12 years ago. The wedding itself is so insignificant compared to the rest of your lives together.

I might go into a little bit of debt - like maybe $2k but that is it. Also, when on a budget I would recommend picking a couple of things that are important to you and doing those well and then skipping other stuff entirely. I have been to weddings where the couple has tried to do it "all" on a tight budget and it was almost painful to witness. Plus all those standard weddings are pretty much the same old, same old. (Do I sound cynical? sorry - I've been to probably 35 weddings.)

If I had a small budget like 5k I'd find a lovely little intimate spot for a ceremony during the day and invite maybe 20-25 people and have a classy little luncheon with mimosas right afterwards. Classy, simple, smart, tasteful and all the people you REALLY care about are right there. Plus you do still end up married in the end!

Edited: Want to add that my wedding was a very lovely day but it was not the BEST DAY OF MY LIFE. And I'm glad it wasn't b/c I wouldn't want that to be over and gone in my early 20's. The BEST DAY OF MY LIFE so far was when I became a mother - not b/c the actual day was spectacular but because of all the intense years of joy and fulfillment that day has led to. For me the BEST DAY OF MY LIFE would have to be focused on someone other than just me and DH.
 
We married in 1978 and had a simple service on a Sat. am with just immediate family. We had a nice wedding breakfast at my inlaws and had a reception party at our house that evening. We were living together for a few months.

We have now been married for 30 years. It didn't get us into debt and we all had a relaxed time. I still have the simple, very out of style, dress I wore.

If I could say anything to all you potential brides it would be to realize that the wedding events are really the least important part of getting married. It is very stressful and expensive and IMHO not a good way to begin a life together. If I were getting married these days, I would consider a nice, outdoors venue in a park like setting. I would have simple food and a moderate cake. I would only invite people I really enjoy being around. No distant relatives. I know a lot of people feel you have to invite because you have been invited to theirs in the past. So what? I would want the people I know well and love with me that day.

The only drawback to a big wedding is the gift issue. Going into debt far overshadows that for me.
 
I wouldn't have given up my Disney wedding for the world. It was perfect! It cost about 15k total for the wedding (including the non-Disney photographer). We also paid for the trip for the five people in our bridal party plus an additional flight for a favorite aunt which was an additional 5K. The two week wedding trip, rings, his suit, the digital SLR we called a wedding expense etc. added about 10k making for a total of about 30k for everything.

I also had a couture gown paid for by my mum. I still can't believe we paid so much for a dress I wore once... But I can't say I regret it. I have never felt more beautiful. I spent the whole day laughing and it was an amazing day.

We saved up for years to make our wedding happen, and paid for it all ourselves. I'm not sure I would go into debt, I think I would have put it off and saved up, which seeing as we dated for 10 years, and saved for over 6 is exactly what we did. That said, we're still paying off the last of the school debt because we had a wedding. We could have been debt free and had a down payment on a house. I still don't regret it.

Only you know if you would be disappointed in compromising on your wedding dreams. I know I would have been. For some people it's worth it, for others it isn't. There is no right or wrong and you aren't spoiled, wrong, or bad for wanting the perfect wedding. :goodvibes
 
Married in 1994...$20,000...do I regret it, no....however, I do think it was a poor way to spend money for a few hours of fun.

I would of much rathered spending the money on a home.

Instead, we rented for 3 years.

It is a good memory to have however, anything you do will be a great memory and always be special.

Personally, I would do something small and save or invest.
 

We will soon celebrate our 29th anniversary. I have no idea how much my parents spent on the wedding. It wasn't a scary amount, though.

Would I go in debt for a wedding? no way

I had the wedding my mom wanted. Had we been older, we would have eloped and then used the wedding money for a really great honeymoon.

In my view a wedding is a crazy thing to go into debt for.
 
I think we paid around $3,800, 8yrs ago. We got married at Sandals in Jamaica. It was just the two of us and it was perfect. The day after we arrived we picked our location (out on a pier in the ocean) and my flower bouquet and the cake and music. We were going to go there for our honeymoon anyway and were having issues with family about the wedding /reception we were going to have at home so we ditched that idea and decided to get married in Jamaica. My wedding dress was $99 and a co-worker made my veil. We paid the trip off before we left (and the rings).

I don't think it's a pain for a family member to attend a destination wedding. Espeically when it's your child getting married! We weren't asking anyone other than our parents to attend ours. I don't care what I'm doing or where I'm at in life, if one of my ds's tells us they're going away for their wedding I'll be sure I'm there.
 
Our 4th anniversary was yesterday :)

How much did you spend on your wedding?
We spent $2000, give or take $100.

Do you regret your wedding debt?
What wedding debt? We did it all in cash. No wedding debt... which made life MUCH easier!

If you could do it over what would you change?
Not a darn thing. We had a church wedding with just a few guests. We had the cake, the photographer, the dvd, the big dinner afterwards, and the awesome white dress. We looked for deals and as we looked at every single detail just asked ourselves "Is this __________ really going to matter in 20 years?" If the answer was yes, we got it. If the answer was no, we didn't.

Do you regret what you cut out for budget reasons?
Heck no. Because we were free of wedding debt, we've been able to save over $38,000 since we got married and are going to be closing on our first house next month, with a NICE hefty downpayment and very little monthly payment. We've been able to afford to pretty much do as we please (within moderation of course). It's a very nice feeling to start marriage in the black instead of in the red.

Your wedding day is just the start. Whether you have a lavish wedding or get married in front of the justice of the peace, at the end of the day you're still husband and wife. You and your fiance are the only two people that day should be about. You do what suits you. For us, having a lavish wedding was going to be an invitation for drama into our lives. My patients have enough drama-I didn't need wedding drama too! That's why we did ours small, and I loved every minute of it.

Good luck and let us all know what you decide to do!
 
I picked up my dress today at David's Bridal ($50...woohoo!). There were several future Bridezillas in there, and I was glad not to be among them. They were all trying on the fanciest dresses and obsessing over wedding colors and minutiae. I am enjoying planning a simple wedding that suits DFi and I nicely and works with our personalities. I'm glad we won't be going into debt over it.:thumbsup2
 
I got married 15 years ago so adjust for inflation....

The dress was $350, off the rack. It was just like Belle's only white. I loved that dress.

The reception what the most expensive part, coming in at $500.

My mother in law did the cakes... free

We had a freind take pictures... processing was like $50 for all the film back then.

My sister was the only one to stand up with me, she picked her own dress and my mom bought it... I don't remember how much it cost, but it was one she could wear to nice church functions and things.

Honeymoon was paid in cash, I think we spent about $1000 total and it was far more memorable than the wedding its self and in hindsight I wish we'd have just gone to the courthouse and been able to use that money to spend another few days in Fort Walton Beach on our honeymoon.
 
We are not at all interested in an at home wedding, it just isnt our vision.


I haven't read any of the responses, but had to throw in my two cents. You are a young couple with lots of major purchases ahead of you. A home, maybe kids, new cars, etc.

As DH and I approach our 25th wedding anniversary, I've never for a minute regreted our budget wedding. We spent well under $1000. It was a beautiful ceremony, our friends had a good time at the reception, and we were just as married as if we'd spent many thousands.

Many of our friends donated their time or things for the ceremony. One made the grooms cake. One did the flowers to top the wedding cake. One did the video, another did the photos, yet another was the dj.

We paid for my dress (inexpensive), DH's suit, invitations, the singer (DH still thinks that was a mistake), the pastor, and the wedding cake. I worked in a restaurant as a second job at the time and my boss gave me a huge discount on the food for the reception. That was about it.

We held the ceremony in our very nice back yard under a trellis DH had built (it would have been a lifelong reminder had it not been destroyed in a storm a few years later). The reception was on the big back porch.

We didn't take our honeymoon right away, but when we did a couple of months later, we used a package from the radio station where I worked. Can't remember for sure, but I think the beachfront lodging was free.

If you had money to spend without it being a hardship, I would say spend all you want to. Borrowing seems like a very bad idea. JMHO.

Sheila
 
I have been married for 16 years. We spent about $6500 on our wedding and it was lovely.

To be honest, I have not been spending my entire life wishing my wedding was something else. It was one day. In the grand scheme of things, it was the vows that were important, not the party.

My advice is to not go into debt. Save the money for something that will contribute to your marriage, not the wedding.

Congratulations, and good luck with whatever you decide.

Denae

:thumbsup2 The wedding isn't as important as the marriage. Don't go into debt for it. Focus and invest on the commitment to each other.
 
Bottom line for us, we wanted to be married and waiting to save up for a big wedding wasn't worth giving up our 'time' together as a married couple.
This sums up my opinion, and perhaps that's why I just "don't get" the idea of waiting years to get married so that you can save up $$$ for a big wedding. If you want to be married to this guy, you can afford to marry him. But if you're not all that excited about being married to him, if waiting is just fine with you -- but you want the big party -- that should be a cause for reflection.
If you have student loans from your nursing program, I would be leary of wracking up debt for a fancy wedding.
You can't take on debt for EVERYTHING. So in the grand scheme of things, what's more important? You've already accepted the student loan debt. Will it be a fancy wedding and renting for years . . . or a moderate wedding and starting to build equity in your own home sooner? Or will you take on both and put off retirement savings? Is having a fancy honeymoon today worth driving a used car tomorrow? Is having a fancy wedding today worth waiting longer than you want to have children? Is having alcohol at the reception worth working an extra shift at the hospital every week for the first year of your marriage? Would you rather have THE reception spot, or would you rather have the extra cash to take a couple nice vacations in your first married years, before you have children? Are you willing to eat at home for the next year so you can have that really nice wedding dress? Realistically, when you're making the decision on whether to borrow, THESE are the decisions you're making at this point.

The big point: You cannot look at JUST the question of wedding debt. You have to look at the big picture. You cannot borrow for EVERYTHING in your life and expect to ever have financial stability. Which things matter most to you? Think long-term and choose wisely.

The other big point: Does your fiance agree? I personally think it's crazy to borrow for a wedding, but that doesn't matter. What does HE think? He's going to have to pay it back.
Also, when on a budget I would recommend picking a couple of things that are important to you and doing those well and then skipping other stuff entirely.
This is excellent advice. So many things go into planning a wedding. It's very possible to splurge on A FEW THINGS, while scrimping on the others; that can be the difference between a moderately-price wedding and an expensive one.

This makes me think of a friend of mine who is obsessed with clothes. She eloped to Vegas (parents didn't approve of her fiance -- oops, they were right too 'cause the marriage failed in less than two years), and even though it was JUST the two of them, she spent $$$ on a full-fledged wedding dress. She wouldn't have been happy if she hadn't that dress. But she had no guests, no reception, no gifts, no cake to cut . . . they just went out to eat together. In my mind, that would've been rather anti-climatic. Married with no friends? No celebration afterward? But SHE was fine with it. She had her dress, and in her mind, that's what a wedding is: Looking beautiful in a wonderful dress.

It also makes me think of a co-worker of mine who wanted to throw a STUPENDOUS reception for her son, but she had a small budget. She held it at her (moderate) house and rented a tent. She rented tables, lavish table-coverings, and she decorated each table individually with knick-knacks from her own home and grocery-store purchased flowers. She didn't have the parking space, so she rented three golf carts, instructed people to park at the church 1/2 mile up the road, and recruited some young men from the church to shuttle guests back-and-forth; the result was that guests got a good, slow look at the lovely site as they drove up the hill in the golf cart. She herself is a great cook, so she planned the menu, and she recruited other people who are equally skilled with food to cook various parts. She called in every favor she was ever owed, even "borrowing" space to store food in the cooler space of a relative's convenince store! She served only one champagne toast, which was in keeping with the late-afternoon time period. The result was a highly personalized reception site with wonderful food -- better food, in fact, than any other wedding I've ever attended (of course, I cooked some of it). She had what SHE WANTED, and she did it on a shoestring.

So 2-3 things matter most to you? If it's having the memories, then splurge on the photographer and have a punch-and-cake reception in the middle of the afternoon. If it's having the big party with blow-out food and drinks, then spend on that and search the aisles for a great $99 dress.
I picked up my dress today at David's Bridal ($50...woohoo!). There were several future Bridezillas in there, and I was glad not to be among them. They were all trying on the fanciest dresses and obsessing over wedding colors and minutiae. I am enjoying planning a simple wedding that suits DFi and I nicely and works with our personalities. I'm glad we won't be going into debt over it.:thumbsup2
My dress was $99, and it was beautiful. I went into the store with an exact idea of what I wanted . . . but my mother kept saying, "Try this one, try this one." Just to make her happy, I did -- and it was absolutely perfect, though it fit NONE of my criteria. My grandmother pulled out her check book and -- a surprise to me -- said she'd pay for it. I was so happy with that dress.
 
I don't think it's a pain for a family member to attend a destination wedding. Espeically when it's your child getting married! We weren't asking anyone other than our parents to attend ours. I don't care what I'm doing or where I'm at in life, if one of my ds's tells us they're going away for their wedding I'll be sure I'm there.

Parents are one thing. (unless mobility issues) I don't think the poster and the blog meant parents. I think they were talking about aunts, cousins, friends, etc.

I personally don't like destination weddings for the very reason. I don't want to waste my vacation time on a family/friend wedding (unless my sister or something close like that). My DH has limited vacation days. But I would feel obligated to go if my cousins, etc. were getting married.

Maggie
 
We were married in 1995. We spent $5000 on it, and had the dream wedding we both wanted. We did not go extravagant, but we were able to have what was important to both of us. We were married in a university chapel, which was very meaningful. According to the rules of the university, the decorations were limited, but what we had looked very nice. The music was chosen very carefully and was very special to us. I sang one song for DW as a part of it. We were married by the archbishop with the ceremony we had wanted for many years. It was attended by most of our large family, who had substancial travel involved, as well as many friends. Our reception was held in a beautiful location. We had heavy hor doerves (I probably spelled that wrong) that were sufficient to substitute for a meal if necessary but less expensive that a sit down meal. Close friends served at the reception, served as bartender, and did the music. We used our own vehicles for our transportation, which saved a great deal of expense. There were many special details. I will never forget the grooms cake, which was in the shape of a daushuand, which represented two of my three childhood dogs. It was a complete surprise for me. Some people choose different things for their weddings. Some things are very costly. If you set a budget you can afford and work within it, a wonderful wedding is possible. When I look back the important things as I recall them, other than DW, were the people who attended, the ceremony, the music, the location, and that very special cake. I would expect that DWs short list might be slightly different from mine, but both of us agreed that we had the wedding we wanted, and we did it for what we could afford.
 
Spent about $200 total on my wedding. We drove to Reno...invited family and friends to join us. Afterwards we went to one of the nice buffet restaurants with everyone and had a nice time. I don't for one minute regret it. My parents then gave us the money we would have spent on the wedding and we used it to buy a car and a vcr. Then about 2 years later they decided to sell their house, they were going to sell it for about $65,000; but instead sold it to us for $50,000 since they didn't have to pay for a huge wedding.

Funny, but most of our friends that had big weddings got divorced fairly quickly. Not us!
 
I think the total for my wedding was about $6500. We aren't fancy people, and really wanted to share with all of our friends and family. An expensive place wouldnt' be our style. Our wedding was almost 5 years ago.
We have a little over 100 people and it was held at a local fish and game club. I think it was about $12 a person for family style food. We've got PA dutch roots, so it was a meat and taters affair. We did cash bar because we didn't want people drunk. That saved a lot of money although that wasn't why we did it. I think the reception cost about $1500.
I splurged on my dress which was $1300, but it was perfect for me. Then we had the photographer, the DJ, and a live musical group at the church. These probably totaled about $2500. Our transportation was free, which saved a ton of money. My BIL worked for a limo company and we were working for a horse-drawn carriage company at the time. Then there were miscellaneous things as well which made up the rest.
I wouldn't have changed a thing about our wedding. It was perfect for us, and my mom paid for the whole thing. She wanted us to keep it under 10K, and we did that easily.
 
You can't take on debt for EVERYTHING. So in the grand scheme of things, what's more important? You've already accepted the student loan debt. Will it be a fancy wedding and renting for years . . . or a moderate wedding and starting to build equity in your own home sooner? Or will you take on both and put off retirement savings? Is having a fancy honeymoon today worth driving a used car tomorrow? Is having a fancy wedding today worth waiting longer than you want to have children? Is having alcohol at the reception worth working an extra shift at the hospital every week for the first year of your marriage? Would you rather have THE reception spot, or would you rather have the extra cash to take a couple nice vacations in your first married years, before you have children? Are you willing to eat at home for the next year so you can have that really nice wedding dress? Realistically, when you're making the decision on whether to borrow, THESE are the decisions you're making at this point.

Economists call this opportunity cost. When you spend here, you no longer have the money to spend there. When you start looking at decisions (whether they take money or time - time also has opportunity cost) through the lens of opportunity costs, you start understanding what you do value. In the end that may be "I value an expensive wedding" - but understand what you are sacrificing in the future for that.

In DIS boards terms this is "I can buy a pop and a candy bar today or have a Mickey bar at Disney."

Purchases that involve debt have more opportunity cost associated with them because you pay interest. Delaying purchases creates income in the form of interest (if you have interest bearing accounts). Not spending it at all gives you more opportunities later.

People who have shed a lot of debt using Dave Ramsey around here are more than willing to talk about the level of sacrifice it can take to shed debt - and how hard it can be to break the debt habit. Its probably a easier move long term to live within your means now than to establish a pattern of "but we really want it so we will buy it and pay for it later." That pattern is hard to break - and I guarantee you that once you are married, the wedding is not the last thing that will tempt you to go into debt. And sometimes, taking on that debt will be a good idea.

ETA: On opportunities later - we had a fairly cheap wedding, followed by a fairly cheap honeymoon. For a long time we were a one car family. Two years later we started down the expensive road of infertility treatments - followed by the expensive road of adoption. And we bought a new home. Had we not been fairly frugal (and I was less frugal way back when then I am now), we wouldn't have had the opportunity to pursue those three paths.
 
I'm not sure what we spent on our wedding. I think it was about $3000 in 1988 dollars. The in-laws gave us that money and said we could spend it on the wedding, or we could use it for whatever else we wanted. We chose to use it for the wedding. It was a whirlwind summer because I was busy taking the bar exam and so my fiancee had to shoulder most of the work--after she got back in April from student teaching in Ecuador. (Like I said, it was a whirlwind.)

We didn't take out any debt, because we were struggling students and could barely make ends meet. Our in-laws gave us the money and a place for a honeymoon (a timeshare they had).

If we could do it over again, we would've had a very simple service with only close family at my in-laws' place. They had a beautiful spot for it, overlooking a lake and it would've been perfect. But we wanted to invite our friends from college, so we had it someplace else. My wife is from one end of our state, and I'm from another, so we had it in the middle, more or less--which made it inconvenient for everyone. We spent a lot of time, work and heartache getting it together (my fiancee and her family doing it a lot themselves), and we're not friends with hardly any of those people that we invited now, anyway. If we'd known then what we know now, we would've gone for a simple ceremony--it would've been much more meaningful for everybody, including us.
 
Economists call this opportunity cost. When you spend here, you no longer have the money to spend there. When you start looking at decisions (whether they take money or time - time also has opportunity cost) through the lens of opportunity costs, you start understanding what you do value. In the end that may be "I value an expensive wedding" - but understand what you are sacrificing in the future for that.

In DIS boards terms this is "I can buy a pop and a candy bar today or have a Mickey bar at Disney."

Purchases that involve debt have more opportunity cost associated with them because you pay interest. Delaying purchases creates income in the form of interest (if you have interest bearing accounts). Not spending it at all gives you more opportunities later.

People who have shed a lot of debt using Dave Ramsey around here are more than willing to talk about the level of sacrifice it can take to shed debt - and how hard it can be to break the debt habit. Its probably a easier move long term to live within your means now than to establish a pattern of "but we really want it so we will buy it and pay for it later." That pattern is hard to break - and I guarantee you that once you are married, the wedding is not the last thing that will tempt you to go into debt. And sometimes, taking on that debt will be a good idea.

ETA: On opportunities later - we had a fairly cheap wedding, followed by a fairly cheap honeymoon. For a long time we were a one car family. Two years later we started down the expensive road of infertility treatments - followed by the expensive road of adoption. And we bought a new home. Had we not been fairly frugal (and I was less frugal way back when then I am now), we wouldn't have had the opportunity to pursue those three paths.
You've expressed my point exactly -- and more eloquently than I did. My personal opinion is that it's risky for a young couple to start out with wedding debt because they cannot know what's coming down the road for them. They're just out of college, and they don't know where they're going to find jobs, etc. I'm sure you didn't expect the "roads" that led you to fertility treatments and adoptions -- but you were wise to be prepared financially for whatever might've come along.
 
Again thank you for all of the advice, I have been keeping up & reading all replies. ALmost all have been supportive and filled with good points and advice, but I have taken offense to a few. Maybe Im just having a bad day so far? I think that has to be it, Ive been a bit boo hoo ish all day. (fell on the ice, spilled my coffee:sad2: )




Parents are one thing. (unless mobility issues) I don't think the poster and the blog meant parents. I think they were talking about aunts, cousins, friends, etc. .

Maggie



I know there are a ton of replies here so you must have missed my response, the destination wedding we are thinking of is for IMMEDIATE family, parents & sibling and one couple that is our best friends. We know some of our siblings would not come. Our best friends already said they would come. Problem is df has a lot of siblings! (and they are all married) :thumbsup2

ANd I really disagree completely with most peoples response on the destination wedding being a burden or pain, or forcing you to "waste" you vacation time. A wedding invitation is just an INVITATION. You are never obligated to go. If you feel that our wedding is a WASTE of time or something you are forced to be at or in ANY WAY feel obligated to be at, then we really would not want you there anyway! That is really hitting the nail right on the head in my opinion, the reason we dont want to invite extended family & cousins etc that we never see. We really feel that this is a day that we like to share with our nearest & dearest only. I really take offense to the people that say its a burden. We do not want our wedding to be a burden on anyone. And trust me, we have been in weddings for some of our friends when we were younger, and just the hoopla of all the dresses, tux rentals, bridal showers & bachelor parties etc have really added up to a lot. There were times that this was more than we could afford, but for our friends, we were willing to do it. There is one wedding in particular that we spent almost 2K just to be in, and it was at home.


We actually aren't that young (we wish)we are both 30. I purchased my home when I was 24 and single, so eventually we will be buying a bigger home together, but not anytime soon. For now we plan to stay put where we are, this home is small but works fine for us.

At our age, it isnt reasonable to ask our parents to contribute, we would not feel right asking them for money. I realize the destination wedding would be a cost to them for the travel.


ANd mrs Pete, as far as my fiance, this is something we discuss, I am not in any way making all of the decisions and as far as HE being the one to have to pay it back, perhaps I misunderstood what you meant, but I assure you it will be BOTH of us paying it back, not him alone. :) My Df is wonderful and he really does not want a big wedding at all. He wants to go away to get married as well. He is fine with not inviting anyone at all. I really want my parents there! Overall I think we have been pretty financially repsonsible thus far in life.

And let me tell you, I love all of you guys, I need Budget Boarders in my life! When I talk to my friends & family they are all about spending the dough for the moment to have a crazy wedding. It just isnt what we want.
 

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