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[LSUfan4444]

Bib 1207 for the full here....Hoping that would put me in Corral A, but I'll take whatever they give me.

 

[rocio]

Bib 1207 for the full here....Hoping that would put me in Corral A, but I'll take whatever they give me.

Based on this: http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/run...n/2013/2013-wdw-CorralAssignmentsMarathon.pdf, you ARE in A.

 

[LSUfan4444]

Sweet - thanks!!!

 

[cobbler]

I submitted a 2:38 proof for the half and ended up with 26906 Goofy bib. Is something wrong with the Goofy numbers or are there that many people who submitted between a 2:37 and 2:38?

It doesn't make sense. I am barely in D with a 300 bib number cushion. Hubby has the same time (well his is 30 seconds faster) and he is in solid B. I don't know. Maybe his is in error and he should be back in D, you know those keys may be so close to each other on the keyboard and my corral is actually correct.

I'll bring in my proof of time anyway just to see what happens. They wouldn't bump me back to a lower corral, would they?

 

[longhorns2]

It doesn't make sense. I am barely in D with a 300 bib number cushion. Hubby has the same time (well his is 30 seconds faster) and he is in solid B. I don't know. Maybe his is in error and he should be back in D, you know those keys may be so close to each other on the keyboard and my corral is actually correct.

I'll bring in my proof of time anyway just to see what happens. They wouldn't bump me back to a lower corral, would they?

I think if they try to you snatch your bib away and show them just how fast you can run!

Honestly, I don't think they would. In my limited experience (went with a friend to change her corral at Princess) they were very generous with anyone who showed up with requests and proof. I didn't get the feeling they would force a backward change on anyone.

 

[longhorns2]

Anyone submit a 1:02-ish 10K time here?

I was wondering what corral that landed people in.

 

[cobbler]

Anyone submit a 1:02-ish 10K time here?

I was wondering what corral that landed people in.

Someone just posted on another group I belong that they are in E with a half time of 2:01. That isn't far off from your 1:02 10k.

I've decided the bibs for Goofy are nuts!

 

[steph0808]

Anyone submit a 1:02-ish 10K time here?

I was wondering what corral that landed people in.

I submitted a 1:00:20 10K time - I am in C.

 

[butiflfeet]

Someone just posted on another group I belong that they are in E with a half time of 2:01. That isn't far off from your 1:02 10k.

I've decided the bibs for Goofy are nuts!

That makes no sense! I submitted a half time of 2:00:29 and I'm in A for the half. I have to agree with you, there seems to be very little rhyme or reason with the Goofy bibs.

 

[longhorns2]

That makes no sense! I submitted a half time of 2:00:29 and I'm in A for the half. I have to agree with you, there seems to be very little rhyme or reason with the Goofy bibs.

I'm thinking the Goofy goes something like this...

When you run goofy, you are being corralled only with Goofy runners. Yes, the entire corral will have the single entry runners, but when they are placing you in a corral, they are looking at you from only the group of Goofy entrants.

My guess is the Goofy runners as a whole are a faster group than the single entry folk. So they look at all the goofy runners
(say there are 10,000 of them) and split them up into the 8 corrals as equally as they can. 1250 into each corral, based on their finish times.

So even though the slowest goofy runner may have submitted a 3 hr half finish time, they are still going to be in the last corral (with the 3.5 single entry folks) because they are the slowest of their overall group- the goofy group.

If you could sign up for half and then for the full individually (and still get a goofy medal) then you would be corralled in the normal manner with the larger group as the guide. That 3 hr half finisher would be in corral E or F instead of H if they were compared to the entire field as a whole.

Does this make sense what I am trying to say? Not sure it's how they did it, but I'm thinking it might be how they did it.

 

[Goofed98]

Goofy bib 21538 here.

Proof of time was a 1:54 half.

 

[Danhockey04]

I have a feeling what's going on with these placements. You have entered a proof of time, like I put 1:44 as a half for the full, I estimated a 3:40 expected finish time with that proof of time. They may have not taken you proof of time only in consideration. They may look at your expected finish time as training my make you go somewhat quicker. I feel the proof of time is to solidify your expected time of finish and they may have done the corral placements off the expected finish times rather than proof of times. You could have two people with a proof of 2:30 as a half and one put 4:45 as a full finish time and another put 5:15, that can explain the gap and craziness in the placements. I feel they look at the proof just to say yes or no your expected is reasonable and if no, they probably put you where the running calculators would say you should go. I feel if a proof of 2:30 and expected of 4:00, that is something I feel would get kicked back and put to the end of all the people that put 2:30 as proof.

 

[belle2211]

My friend and I run together the whole time...we are doing the half. We put in a 10k time of 1:13 and estimated half time of 2:45. She is 45,513 and I am 45,523. Only 10 off so not too bad. Any idea what corral that would be?

 

[Tabetha]

My friend and I run together the whole time...we are doing the half. We put in a 10k time of 1:13 and estimated half time of 2:45. She is 45,513 and I am 45,523. Only 10 off so not too bad. Any idea what corral that would be?

You're in Corral C...

 

[chris84bond]

Based on this: http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/run...n/2013/2013-wdw-CorralAssignmentsMarathon.pdf, you ARE in A.

3649...just missed the cutoff for B :/ I might try and see if runner relations will bump me up. Submitted 4:20 with a 1:52 half, but have run an unofficial 1:46 half since then on the training plan and hit my 18 mile run in 2:45 (36 seconds faster than a 9:09 pace for a 4hr finish), although i know unofficial means squat to them.

If not, oh well....still happy and this made everything real.

 

[cewait]

I have a feeling what's going on with these placements. You have entered a proof of time, like I put 1:44 as a half for the full, I estimated a 3:40 expected finish time with that proof of time. They may have not taken you proof of time only in consideration. They may look at your expected finish time as training my make you go somewhat quicker. I feel the proof of time is to solidify your expected time of finish and they may have done the corral placements off the expected finish times rather than proof of times. You could have two people with a proof of 2:30 as a half and one put 4:45 as a full finish time and another put 5:15, that can explain the gap and craziness in the placements. I feel they look at the proof just to say yes or no your expected is reasonable and if no, they probably put you where the running calculators would say you should go. I feel if a proof of 2:30 and expected of 4:00, that is something I feel would get kicked back and put to the end of all the people that put 2:30 as proof.

I mostly agree. They have their algorithm that they run proof through and would not let a person claim an expected 3 hour marathon based on a 2 hour half (extreme but I am sure they see some). I do think that they allow a lot of leniency on pushing down expected times based on proof. Say a 2 hour half suggests a 415 full and the entrant place a 355... They allow that up to a point. I think where I disagree is if that same person said 455... I think they would not modify that.

I think this is the first year they actually challenged and looked at the proof that came with entries. I see that I was bumped back 900 spots in the Goofy number using the exact same proof I used last year. I remain in C but barely. I think they balanced my 58 minute 10k with last year's 2:30 half (they are not compatible) and weighed in the DIsney results as well.

What I think has happened in the past is that folks would claim a low A time with a 2:45 half or something like that and gain a spot in the front. I do not know how otherwise the numbers of walkers I pass in the first 4-5 miles got that far up. But who knows. This year the numbers and estimated times are not making a lot of sense.

 

[dobball23]

My wife and I have half-marathon bib numbers of 50,XXX. We have never run a race/half marathon before, so neither of us submitted a time. I should finish in 1:45ish based upon my training. It sounds like I will be passing people like crazy based on the above responses of estimated times/bib numbers/corrals. Is this a safety concern for RunDisney?

 

[miker1251]

Goofy assignments can be seen here.

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/run...thon/2013/2013-wdw-CorralAssignmentsGoofy.pdf

Half marathon

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/run...athon/2013/2013-wdw-CorralAssignmentsHalf.pdf

 

[jimandami]

My wife and I have half-marathon bib numbers of 50,XXX. We have never run a race/half marathon before, so neither of us submitted a time. I should finish in 1:45ish based upon my training. It sounds like I will be passing people like crazy based on the above responses of estimated times/bib numbers/corrals. Is this a safety concern for RunDisney?

It isn't so much a safety concern for them as an annoyance for you. If you are in the very last corral, you are going to have a hard time finishing in 1:45, IMHO. Plus, all that bobbing and weaving takes a lot more energy out of you than you would think. Can you find a 10K to run before race day? That would be my suggestion.

 

[jimandami]

3649...just missed the cutoff for B :/ I might try and see if runner relations will bump me up. Submitted 4:20 with a 1:52 half, but have run an unofficial 1:46 half since then on the training plan and hit my 18 mile run in 2:45 (36 seconds faster than a 9:09 pace for a 4hr finish), although i know unofficial means squat to them.

If not, oh well....still happy and this made everything real.

They should at least bump you up to B. I submitted a 1:57 (I think) for a 4:00 and am in B. I am going to take my latest 10K (48:42) to see if it gets me into the back of A, but I doubt it.