Non-Disney Online Games Virtual Family Kingdom Thread

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I can't seem to access that "special offer" but it doesn't matter anyways. I don't have to think twice about whether I'd pay. Won't even CONSIDER it. I don't know of anyone who would...

I'm with Aengus now :goodvibes Bye bye VFK!
 
They are out of their MINDS!!
I wouldn't give them Aengus' pet lint ball for what I see already developed on VFK.

It is truly incredulous that they would even consider asking anyone to pay at this point.

Crazy ppl... :scared1:
 
ATTENTION: VFK IS NOW A LOAD OF GARBAGE.

Look at the home page to see what I mean.

Anyone who HAS A BRAIN will NOT pay 10 BUCKS A MONTH for
this. They are starting pay to play WAAAYY to early. VFK will lose
ALL of their members starting now. I've been patient with them confident
that they will become a better game and then when they are a good game
then they will start pay to play. THIS IS GARBAGE PEOPLE.

Where did u see this? Is it under the "Special Offer" button? And whats the special offer for beta participants?

Can somebody post exactly what it says? Ty :)
 

I agree that it's not ready but for a little bit of perspective: Your membership includes 20 family accounts and if you still don't want to pay the basic membership will still be available.
 
I was just looking at the special benifits chart, normal members can't trade rooms, trade credits, play after-hours, and there is more :(
 
Here you go:
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A Word From Sara

Virtual Family Kingdom is all about families.

We have put together a Founder's membership especially for your family which includes special bonuses for you. It is our hope that these special gifts express our appreciation for your helping us make this world a reality.

Each of these gifts were created by our staff especially for you. Our graphic artists created the comic book from the story boards that have gone into making Virtual Family Kingdom. The DVD is produced by our media department, and gives you a behind the scene glimpse of what has gone into the making of Virtual Family Kingdom.

In addition, our graphics department has created all of the designs for the other gifts. As you know, we always pay attention to detail, and each of these gifts is a one of a kind creation from our family to yours.

It also includes three months of the Family V.I.P. Pass membership, which provides many new features especially designed for families and based on the suggestions of our members.

We also want you to know that the Family V.I.P. Pass includes those new features which have been requested by our members. When you look at the comparison chart, that shows those features which are free to everyone, you will see that everything you expected to be free is still part of the Basic Membership. In fact, you will discover that there are even new and exciting features included in the basic membership that were never there before.

The new features reflect exciting new developments, and are designed around the wonderful suggestions that so many of our community have shared with us.

We hope that you find these new features as exciting as we do, and that the Family V.I.P. Pass meets your expectations.

One of the most exciting new features is Groups

With groups, you can form anything from a small club with your best friends to a complete organization with thousands of members. Share items, build rides, host events, and enjoy being with your friends and family. Large groups even qualify for their own group badge which can be worn by members. Most importantly, your family is a group and can have family rooms where you can create a virtual family home in our world.

Even more exciting is our Families Helping Families Program.

Each month you can designate, the recognized charity or non-profit organization of your choice and we will donate ten percent of your V.I.P. Pass membership to that organization. You can also create a group for your designated charity or npo and as others join with you, your contributions will add up. By coming together, we can all make a real difference.

Sara
Virtual Family Kingdom


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Frequently Asked Questions

Q. Is membership really free on Virtual Family Kingdom?

A. Yes, membership is free and includes all of the features you have ever expected in a virtual world. You can click here for a complete list of benefits included with free membership.

Q. Who decided on what features would be included in the paid membership?

A. All the features in the paid membership were requested by our community. One of the most exciting new features is the ability to join together to create a family room, a club, a group, or even a virtual version of a group you belong to in real life. You can even create a group which focuses on a charity or recognized non-profit organization. Then people who join your group and designate it as their choice, will have 10 % of their subscription donated to that charity or non-profit organization. Coming together, you can make a difference. Groups with 50 or more members will even receive a special badge for the group which every member of the group can wear.

Q. Will I have to buy credits?

A. No, you will not have to buy credits. Every player will be able to earn credits from mini-games like Space Pirates, Audubon's Wildlife Adventure, Wild West Ghost Game, Paul Revere's Midnight Ride etc., just as they always have to purchase items in the game. As we were putting together the membership features, many of our community told us that they loved to build rides and create exciting rooms, but have never been very good at the mini-games or that they had a schedule which didn't include time to play the mini-games. We also had parents tell us that their younger children had had a difficult time earning credits because the mini-games were always too complex. To meet these concerns, the Family V.I.P. Pass includes 1000 free credits daily upon login. The family can even designate which of their accounts receives the credits.

Q. Why isn't everything finished?

A. First, we will never be finished! There will always be worlds to build and new mini-games to create, not to mention improvements, fulfilling new requests and all the mysteries of the future. We are so proud of our entire community including our developers, our graphic artists, our researchers, our writers, our management and most of all, our kind beta testers who have made this all possible. In just two months and two weeks, we have gone from a promise to a reality. The reality today is a world large enough that you can become worn out just walking from one end to the other, as many of you know. A reality that includes hairdos, clothes, furniture, rooms, room lists, friend's lists, our signature Audubon's Wildlife Adventure mini-game and the ability to trade. Whether it is taking the first step in our new world, or building fabulous rooms, it is this wonderful community that has made it possible.

Q. Is Virtual Family Kingdom safe?

A. Our primary commitment is to create a safe and fun place for the entire family. This is reflected in our staff and even more importantly in our entire community.

Q. What about education?

A. From the beginning, our focus at Virtual Family Kingdom has been to bring history alive and to make it fun. We are already working with educators to create virtual classrooms with the tools that the educator needs to make the best use of Virtual Family Kingdom. This includes the creation of unique new educational experiences including educational quests, learning computer skills, and interacting in a safe virtual environment.

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ATTENTION: VFK IS NOW A LOAD OF GARBAGE.

Look at the home page to see what I mean.

Anyone who HAS A BRAIN will NOT pay 10 BUCKS A MONTH for
this. They are starting pay to play WAAAYY to early. VFK will lose
ALL of their members starting now. I've been patient with them confident
that they will become a better game and then when they are a good game
then they will start pay to play. THIS IS GARBAGE PEOPLE.
I can't seem to access that "special offer" but it doesn't matter anyways. I don't have to think twice about whether I'd pay. Won't even CONSIDER it. I don't know of anyone who would...

I'm with Aengus now :goodvibes Bye bye VFK!

Agreed I have just now turned to lava boi's side.

If they think we are going to pay 10 bucks a month for this they are out
of their minds! And the sad thing is some people think it's a GOOD DEAL?!

VFK IS NOT READY YET.
 
I agree that it's not ready but for a little bit of perspective: Your membership includes 20 family accounts and if you still don't want to pay the basic membership will still be available.

I know but what is the point when they are taking so much things
away from us? The things they are taking away from us and the game is
just not worth the money they are expecting us to pay. Plus they want us
to also pay 50 bucks for a HORSE AND 70,000 CREDITS?? I can earn
70k with 3 games of Audubon and a stinking horse is not worth that.

I was just looking at the special benifits chart, normal members can't trade rooms, trade credits, play after-hours, and there is more :(
 
Does anyone here plan on subscribing to VFK? I've put my flame-thrower down (it never worked right anyway :p)- I'm just curious. Games that offer levels of membership (free/subscription with added features) usually can expect under 10% of members to subscribe. Club Penguin has about 6-7%. I've seen guest numbers around 16,000 if that's an accurate measure of avatars created, but there doesn't seem to be over a few hundred people in the game at any given time. I'm just trying to see how they plan on sustaining- or even making a profit- on this game.

Here's what I'm thinking about subscriptions-

2 (moderators present while the game is open) x 15 (hours/day the game is multiplayer) x $5.85 (federal minimum wage)= $175.50 per day x30 = at least $5,265/month, just for two mods to patrol.

A $10 monthly subscription fee means that at least 527 people would need to subscribe, just to pay for live moderation. The developers deserve a salary too, and you can be sure they get paid more than that! And don't forget about our good friend Gayle who mans the telephones :-P There's also server fees- remember, they have some serious redundancy going on there, in addition to all of the other expenses I'm leaving out (I'm imagining that there's lots of pizza and coffee involved). Now, I hope they pay dear Finley and Hurry (is he still a girl?) more than that- and I think they have more mod avatars walking around during a shift, but that's the bare minimum.

I just don't see how it's gonna work.
 
1. Far better games available for the same price..
2. Release candidate sounds more like beta..
3. They should make infomercials instead..
 
My take on it is this:

No, it's not ready. But if it were ready then they are only asking me to pay once and EVERYONE in my family gets to play as a VIP member. If I don't want to pay everyone still gets all the features that I expected them to get for free. How is that not a good deal? They are trying to give you the replacement for VMK that you asked for and they are doing it for free. They are actually demonstrating that they have some original ideas for features VMK never had and they would like you to pay for those at a rate of 50 cents a month per account. It's a killer deal... if the game were finished.

The problem is, as has been pointed out ad nauseam, the game isn't ready yet. Sara says as much "After 48 hours, we will be opening our doors to the people who have waited so patiently on the waiting list to be able to be a part of the final beta experience." You can debate whether it's currently alpha/beta/rc all day long, the point is the game isn't ready. They are already asking me to pay for the next three months of membership in order to be a "founder." My "gift" for being a beta tester is I get 3 months for the price of 5 and that time will be spent in the "final beta experience" not the finished game. I know there are other gifts in that package but what I'm buying is VIP membership the other things are just extras.

I agree that they may be doing this in order to fund the continuing development of the game. I hope that doesn't mean they are running out of development capital. I think the game has a long way to go before I would buy a subscription. I'm not ruling it out in the future but I'm not paying for the game that I see now. If they need people like me to buy in now in order to continue building it, then it may never go gold. :sad2:
 
I understand that $10 might not be worth paying to play vfk rite now, but most virtual online games are about $10 per month. Also, if you don't want to pay, then isn't there an option for the FREE Basic Membership? The way I understand it is, the basic membership has all of the options vmk had, (creating a charcter, room, earning credits, buying items and trading.)

The only downside is u can't trade credits unless u buy the V.I.P. Membership, which is pretty much the Basic with a whole bunch of activities (that are pretty unnecessary in my opinion.)

To me, it works the same way other virtual games do, like Toontown- you have the free membership and then if you want the extras you have 2 pay a monthly fee.

Personally, I would never pay money for any virtual game unless I REALLY liked it.

Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding. Ty :)

BTW: Ty Dreamytime for posting the whole announcement! :goodvibes
 
The difference between VMK and VFK is that VMK was an advertisement, Disney could promote anything on it, and it was free like all advertisements/most promotions.
 
The difference between VMK and VFK is that VMK was an advertisement, Disney could promote anything on it, and it was free like all advertisements/most promotions.

True, but isn't VFK offering a free way also? True, they WANT you to buy the VIP membership, but can't you stick to the basic and have the same options of VMK?
 
heh... Welcome to the dark side everyone... we have cookies @_@
 
True, but isn't VFK offering a free way also? True, they WANT you to buy the VIP membership, but can't you stick to the basic and have the same options of VMK?

I'm sure you can, but without subscribers, they won't be around very long and you'll have no place to play anymore. Sad, but true. It costs money to run a game and it looks as though vfk has run out of funding. Paying for pre-beta or even beta is not the norm. Beta testing is usually free. When the game goes live as a complete version, that's when people start paying, not before.
It's a shame they are doing this at such an early point in the game's development.
 
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