Vaccine- Autism link proven to be a FRAUD!

[DisneyDorkORama]

again....

I am ok with not vaccinating...

 

[princessmom29]

again....

I am ok with not vaccinating...

so even in the middle of an epidemc where children in your child's school, at your church, were being crippiled by polio, you would take your chances with the disease reather than take the vaccine?

 

[Hannathy]

I think its strange when polio and small pox are referenced when both were on a very steady decline long before the vaccine came out. When the vaccine was introduced, both diseases actually had a increase in deaths before the continuing decline. A major increase in living condition and health care (not vaccines, but treatments for the symptoms from the illness) were happening over those years.
Also many people believe that polio still exists, just is named different things when diagnosed. (just to throw that out there but that I haven't really researched to extent) Ok... Bring on the comments

Wow I really am speechless!!!!

Have you ever read anything of the polio epidemic of the 50's? I can't believe you are saying what you are saying. You have never experienced the fear that gripped the nation of Mothers afraid that everyday their child went to school could be their last normal day on earth. Mothers who were willing to allow their children to be guinea pigs in vaccine trials because without it the outlook was so grim. There was no cure. My Mother to the day she died remembered the fear and how panicked she was when she took my sister off the toilet and stood her down and she collapsed on the floor, she was sure she had polio! luckily it wasn't. I lived outside of Pittsburgh and we got the vaccine as soon as it was available, very early in it's release.

When was this decline? The summer before the vaccine no one went anywhere with a crowd, no pools were open, it certainly wasn't in decline!!!

I guess you have never known anyone living with the leftover residual problems from polio?

Yes polio still exists no one said it didn't, but it isn't a threat here thanks to most people are smart and immunize against it, if enough stop then it will come back.

Small pox would never have been eradicated with this current generation of parents.

I'm sorry but parents that think like you scare me very much and make me fear for the children of the future.

 

[DisneyDorkORama]

so even in the middle of an epidemc where children in your child's school, at your church, were being crippiled by polio, you would take your chances with the disease reather than take the vaccine?

when the last case of polio found in the U.S. and how did it happen?

 

[Hannathy]

so even in the middle of an epidemc where children in your child's school, at your church, were being crippiled by polio, you would take your chances with the disease reather than take the vaccine?

Yeah I would like that answer to. If it were a full blown epidemic and no one was vaccinated you would just stand by and hope the ventilator could keep them breathing long enough to cure the polio, or that their limbs wouldn't be too paralyzed or distorted as the disease ran it's curse, or they wouldn't get a secondary infection while they were on the ventilator?
You would rather they walk with a limp if they survived than have the vaccine and prevent it all. Or loose the use of an arm.

Polio is very easy to catch. I know a woman who is a polio survivor who lived in the middle of nowhere and walks with a limp and does not have the use of 1 arm and hand from polio. She caught it as a girl from a hired hand who worked on their farm for a very short period of time. She had very little contact with him. Now imagine that in a crowded classroom or school bus.

 

[Scurvy]

when the last case of polio found in the U.S. and how did it happen?

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/dis-faqs.htm

 

[Hannathy]

This is from WHO and I think it is worth noting

"As long as a single child remains infected, children in all countries are at risk of contracting polio. In 2009-2010, 23 previously polio-free countries were re-infected due to imports of the virus. "

There are still 4 countries that remain endemic for Polio one of which is India.


So if you were traveling and living in India you still would not vaccinate your children.

 

[DisneyDorkORama]

This is from WHO and I think it is worth noting

"As long as a single child remains infected, children in all countries are at risk of contracting polio. In 2009-2010, 23 previously polio-free countries were re-infected due to imports of the virus. "

There are still 4 countries that remain endemic for Polio one of which is India.


So if you were traveling and living in India you still would not vaccinate your children.

wow..did you seriously just ask me that??

 

[princessmom29]

when the last case of polio found in the U.S. and how did it happen?

that is irrelevant to the discussion. It hasn't happened because herd immunity prevents that. Are you willing to answer the question or nto? If your child was at risk for catching polio would you still choose not to vaccinate?

 

[Hannathy]

wow..did you seriously just ask me that??

Yes I did you said you would not vaccinate. And we said it is easy to say that here where most kids are so yours are protected from the unselfish parents who took the slight risk and vaccinated but if you were where where they didn't would you still be so sure?

You have never answered either one of us.

Easy to be brave tilll you have to stand up and face danger.

 

[princessmom29]

wow..did you seriously just ask me that??

It is totally relevant becuase if more people begin making the choice you have that is exactly the situation we will be in.

 

[MommyBell08]

Wow I really am speechless!!!!

Have you ever read anything of the polio epidemic of the 50's? I can't believe you are saying what you are saying. You have never experienced the fear that gripped the nation of Mothers afraid that everyday their child went to school could be their last normal day on earth. Mothers who were willing to allow their children to be guinea pigs in vaccine trials because without it the outlook was so grim. There was no cure. My Mother to the day she died remembered the fear and how panicked she was when she took my sister off the toilet and stood her down and she collapsed on the floor, she was sure she had polio! luckily it wasn't. I lived outside of Pittsburgh and we got the vaccine as soon as it was available, very early in it's release.

When was this decline? The summer before the vaccine no one went anywhere with a crowd, no pools were open, it certainly wasn't in decline!!!

I guess you have never known anyone living with the leftover residual problems from polio?

Yes polio still exists no one said it didn't, but it isn't a threat here thanks to most people are smart and immunize against it, if enough stop then it will come back.

Small pox would never have been eradicated with this current generation of parents.

I'm sorry but parents that think like you scare me very much and make me fear for the children of the future.

Polio mortality rate WAS high in the early 1950's, but by 1955 when the vaccination was introduced, it had already dramatically decreased. Its not hard to look up that information. No I do not know anyone that has been effected by polio, but this does not take away from the seriousness of the disease and its effects. I cant imagine. Nor can I imagine loosing my child to any other disease, God forbid. It does not change my mind on the vaccination. Im sorry of your personal experience, and the horror your Mother must have faced.

 

[tlbwriter]

Also many people believe that polio still exists, just is named different things when diagnosed.

Many people also believe the earth is flat.

 

[MommyBell08]

Many people also believe the earth is flat.[/QUOT

Good point

 

[princessmom29]

Polio mortality rate WAS high in the early 1950's, but by 1955 when the vaccination was introduced, it had already dramatically decreased. Its not hard to look up that information. No I do not know anyone that has been effected by polio, but this does not take away from the seriousness of the disease and its effects. I cant imagine. Nor can I imagine loosing my child to any other disease, God forbid. It does not change my mind on the vaccination. Im sorry of your personal experience, and the horror your Mother must have faced.

So again, you are saying that if there was an epidemic of any one for these deadly diseases today, where you live, your child would still not recieve a vaccination?

 

[princesspeach]

Confirmation of what we already knew. Study linking vaccines to autism proven to be a fraud. The doctors involved altered the medical histories of the patients in the study. It has bee retracted by the journal that published it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40930256/ns/health-mental_health/?gt1=43001

Confirmation on what who already know. I don't think msnbc would be considerd a reliable source by any educated persons standard. There is a lot of good information out there on vaccines. If you choose to do the research. Instead of blindly relying on msnbc for your education. The sheep continue to be dubed by the mainstream media.

 

[MommyBell08]

So again, you are saying that if there was an epidemic of any one for these deadly diseases today, where you live, your child would still not recieve a vaccination?

No. My child would not receive a vaccination. If there was a outbreak, taking my child to the infected doctors office would be last thing on my list of things to do.

 

[Hannathy]

No. My child would not receive a vaccination. If there was a outbreak, taking my child to the infected doctors office would be last thing on my list of things to do.

So how would you prevent your child from catching it? You are fine with your child catching a deadly disease.


Again easy to say now.

 

[Scurvy]

Confirmation on what who already know. I don't think msnbc would be considerd a reliable source by any educated persons standard. There is a lot of good information out there on vaccines. If you choose to do the research. Instead of blindly relying on msnbc for your education. The sheep continue to be dubed by the mainstream media.

You do realize that MSNBC was just one of the outlets reporting that the study has been found to be fraudulent, right? The story was initially reported by a reputable medical journal and has since been picked up by many other news sources. If you don't like MSNBC, I'm sure you can probably find someone you do trust who has reported it.

 

[MommyBell08]

So how would you prevent your child from catching it? You are fine with your child catching a deadly disease.


Again easy to say now.

Yes I am completely fine with my child catching a deadly disease. Come on, please. There is no concrete proof that vaccinations prevent disease, if there was there would be no debating the topic.