Being certain and having actual proof are 2 very different things.
THANK YOU! well said and true
Being certain and having actual proof are 2 very different things.
How about I give you about 50 phone numbers of parents that are certain about the vaccines causing their child's autism
WOW! I find so many of the posters in this thread EXTREMELY scary. If you don't have a child with autism and have never watched your child go from typical, talking, and sociable and then turn into a child completely introverted, self-injurious, and never wanting to be touched you should have NOTHING to say about the causes of autism.
Well, I have seen all of that nad deal with autistic behavior on a daily basis, so I guess accordingto you, I get an opinion.
I have worked with autistic children for almost 18 years. I have lived with these famlies, gone on vacations with them, had the children stay at my house, taught them, stood by their hospital beds, loved them, been 10000% a part of their lives. I have seen COUNTLESS videos of these amazing kids one day and then a video days later where they are completely different. This being after vaccines. I am not saying autism is caused by them - bc there are too many cases where it can easily be shown it's not. BUT years ago there was mercury in the vaccines and if you look at the symptoms of mercury poisoning - they are almost exactly the same as autism. Now most vaccines - if not all - no longer have mercury in them. Did anyone here with their "perfect snowflake child" even know that???
Did you know any of these children BEFORE the diagnosis? We kenw that the chidl with autism in our family was different from very early on. Many of the children who supposedly suddent become autistic after a vaccine ahd documented issues before ever getting it. That is what was covered up in this study. Actually, the symptoms of mercury posioning are quite different that autism, appear porgressively over a long period of time, and take much more mercury to manifest that a child would ever get from a vaccine.
And Jenny McCarthy does not pretend to be an expert. She's not. But she told her doctor she wanted to space out the vaccines, he gave her son the shot with her still saying she didn't want it. He developed a high fever, seizures, and never recovered. This story has been told by millions of other parents. Are they all crazy?? Did you even see the pics of Jenny's son before and after??? He clearly had the "autism look" after. Not all children can take those cocktails - just like all people can't take penicillin. She has NEVER said don't vaccinate. She said to do your homework. So really people - before you jump all over anyone - walk one hour in their shoes.
Jenny McCarthy's child was never actually diagnosed as autistic. She said she was sure he was and didn't need a doctor to tell her that. He had a moderate fever with the vaccine, nothing extreme, and she claims thart his "blank stare" was a seizure. It was never documented or treated by a doctor. She also claims to have cured him with a diet, and wrote a very lucrative book about the experience. Emphasis on lucrative, at a point when her career was basically over.
I have worked with all populations of autistic individuals. Extremely severe to high functioning. My whole life has been dedicated to these kids, last year I won Teacher of the Year and couldn't have been prouder. You don't know what these families have gone through, the devastation this diagnosis can bring. I absolutely believe some of my kids were forever changed due to their vaccinations. I've seen the videos, the pictures, it's ALARMING. Don't sit behind your computer and act like you know everything about it bc of one news story. YOU DON'T!
I have also worked with autism at all levels. You can believe whatever you like, but can you prove it??
Some of you are so unbelievably rude, it makes me realize why I would so much rather work with these kids and their families than the "cookie-cutter perfect ones that never make a mistake". How dare you take your judgement and act like these parents are crazy for talking about what they believe in. Be happy it isn't your child - but don't look down on those that are defending their own. Bc I'm sure you'd be the type to want the autistic kid out of your child's class if that child said boo to yours. How sad. And you should really wish you never have a child that others treat like that.
I do realize what these parents are going through becuase I see it as I teach their children. Many, like the mother of the autistic child in my family, go thorugh a period of denial, and look for someone or something to balme for what is going on with thier child. It i smuch easier to blame a vaccine than to accept what the research is bearing out more and more, that autism is a genetic condition. I don't blame them for wanting answers, but I think some are blinded by their grief. I think YOU are being very harsh and judgmental yourself because some of us don't see it your way.
Read up on what Hep A & Hep B actually are. Both affect the liver, and at least Hep B (not sure about A) can become chronic in some people. They are also both spread through bodily fluids, which can happen when people are in close contact as children are in school.I think the problem with vaccines is there just WAY TOO MANY! Why does my daughter need Hep B vaccine to get into school? Now they are trying to shoot her up with Hep A!
Doing your research is good. Every parent should research so they can make well-informed decisions for their children. I will say, though, that fever is a common reaction to the MMR vaccine & I'm surprised your pediatrician didn't tell you that. Ours tells us when DD might get a fever, or diarrhea, or any other common side effect from a vaccine. She got a slight fever and seemed to feel a bit sick for a few days after she had her MMR, but we knew that might happen. Fever is the body's way of fighting infection so it makes sense that a child may get a fever after getting a vaccine; their body is fighting the small dose of virus from the vaccine & thereby building immunity to that virus. It's tragic that a child died due to complications from her MMR booster, but I think it's safe to say that such a severe reaction is rare.With my next child I am going to do my research before I just do what society tells me to. After DD has her MMR vaccine a week later she came down with a fever close to 104 (Fri, Sat, and Sun) and was lethargic the week after. She just wasn't herself at all. When the time came for her booster I knew I didn't want her getting it. Someone on here told me about a law that was implemented here in Jersey after a little girl died from complications due to her MMR booster. The law stated that we can opt for a titers test as proof of immunity for MMR. I started researching this to find out that 95% of children are fully immune to MMR after the first dose! 95%!!!!! 95% of our children are receiving vaccines unnecessarily!! No doctor ever told me I could opt for this instead of getting her vaccinated AGAIN. And then when I approached my ped about it I had to sign a waiver that I was putting my child's life in danger by not re vaccinating her with MMR and Hep A.
Taking the titer's test was the best thing I ever did, she was immune to all three and they also checked her for chicken pox which she was also immune to.
With my next baby I will research more on vaccines. We don't know the full facts IMHO about vaccines and autism, how do we know that there's a different chemistry in Joey's body that would cause him to react to MMR vaccine with autism, however Johnny doesn't have that make up? I am just saying, do your research, know your rights.
Read up on what Hep A & Hep B actually are. Both affect the liver, and at least Hep B (not sure about A) can become chronic in some people. They are also both spread through bodily fluids, which can happen when people are in close contact as children are in school.
Doing your research is good. Every parent should research so they can make well-informed decisions for their children. I will say, though, that fever is a common reaction to the MMR vaccine & I'm surprised your pediatrician didn't tell you that. Ours tells us when DD might get a fever, or diarrhea, or any other common side effect from a vaccine. She got a slight fever and seemed to feel a bit sick for a few days after she had her MMR, but we knew that might happen. Fever is the body's way of fighting infection so it makes sense that a child may get a fever after getting a vaccine; their body is fighting the small dose of virus from the vaccine & thereby building immunity to that virus. It's tragic that a child died due to complications from her MMR booster, but I think it's safe to say that such a severe reaction is rare.
P.S. - You can download vaccine information sheets from the CDC's website here: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/default.htm
They are published by the CDC, who obviously want people to vaccinate, but they give basic information such as what the diseases actually are and possible side effects of the vaccines. Might be a place to start in your research.
Regardless of this study being debunked. The CDC has already came out and stated that they do in fact know there is a link to vaccinations and Autism as well as other behavior problems. But there is also a genetic code that they have not been able to identify yet.
I find it funny that some of the best Doctors in this world have came out and stated they delayed vaccinations in their children. Sometimes waiting till six months to get their first shot and waiting till 3 to get the MMR shot. I would considering what is actually put in the vaccination. Have any of you actually read what is in them?
Do you really think it is good to give your child 4+ shots at one time? No, it isn't. It actually breaks down your child's immunity. You can try to blast me all you want and tell me I am wrong but my Daughter is 3 and only gets one shot at a time and has never had a cold until I let her get the flu shot. My doctor even told me that the way I chose to vaccinate my daughter has helped strengthen her immunity while giving more then one shot at a time weakens it.
Do you realize that you were given 13 shots growing up. Now they give 36! Did chicken pox really hurt you that bad that you need a shot that won't even give you immunity to it? That getting chicken pox will actually make you immune and not need to get another shot? Did you know that it is worse to get chicken pox as a parent? Or while you are pregnant? So you give your daughter or son the shot and over the years their protection of getting chicken pox wears off. Now they have kids of their own and their kids get it while your daughter or daughter in-law gets chicken pox and now has to deal with worry about the harm it will do to the unborn child. That is just one of many examples.
I am not saying we shouldn't give vaccinations because I vaccinate my child. But do your research before you blast people for delaying or saying that they don't harm you. There are some people who have children who has been harmed. There are court cases that parents have won because it is proved that vaccinations harmed their children.
The CDC will never do a study. They will never take the risk of a controlled group to find the link for Autism. As they stated, it is a genetic code along with vaccinations and environmental influence. The most they will do is keep looking for the genetic code.
Don't attack a parent for doing what they think is right. For them to study what is in the vaccinations before jumping on the band wagon. For them to see that there are way too many vaccinations given at one time and choose not to do that does not make them wrong. With the way we are told to vaccinate our children it is amazing that all of us are still alive and well.
Regardless of this study being debunked. The CDC has already came out and stated that they do in fact know there is a link to vaccinations and Autism as well as other behavior problems. But there is also a genetic code that they have not been able to identify yet.
I find it funny that some of the best Doctors in this world have came out and stated they delayed vaccinations in their children. Sometimes waiting till six months to get their first shot and waiting till 3 to get the MMR shot. I would considering what is actually put in the vaccination. Have any of you actually read what is in them?
Do you really think it is good to give your child 4+ shots at one time? No, it isn't. It actually breaks down your child's immunity. You can try to blast me all you want and tell me I am wrong but my Daughter is 3 and only gets one shot at a time and has never had a cold until I let her get the flu shot. My doctor even told me that the way I chose to vaccinate my daughter has helped strengthen her immunity while giving more then one shot at a time weakens it.
Do you realize that you were given 13 shots growing up. Now they give 36! Did chicken pox really hurt you that bad that you need a shot that won't even give you immunity to it? That getting chicken pox will actually make you immune and not need to get another shot? Did you know that it is worse to get chicken pox as a parent? Or while you are pregnant? So you give your daughter or son the shot and over the years their protection of getting chicken pox wears off. Now they have kids of their own and their kids get it while your daughter or daughter in-law gets chicken pox and now has to deal with worry about the harm it will do to the unborn child. That is just one of many examples.
I am not saying we shouldn't give vaccinations because I vaccinate my child. But do your research before you blast people for delaying or saying that they don't harm you. There are some people who have children who has been harmed. There are court cases that parents have won because it is proved that vaccinations harmed their children.
The CDC will never do a study. They will never take the risk of a controlled group to find the link for Autism. As they stated, it is a genetic code along with vaccinations and environmental influence. The most they will do is keep looking for the genetic code.
Don't attack a parent for doing what they think is right. For them to study what is in the vaccinations before jumping on the band wagon. For them to see that there are way too many vaccinations given at one time and choose not to do that does not make them wrong. With the way we are told to vaccinate our children it is amazing that all of us are still alive and well.
Regardless of this study being debunked. The CDC has already came out and stated that they do in fact know there is a link to vaccinations and Autism as well as other behavior problems.
Also for everyone gambling with chicken pox you do know children die every year from chicken pox 50-100 deaths per year.
Infants most often contract Hep B from their mothers at birth if the mother carries the disease. Pregnant women in the US are now routinely screened for Hep B but the disease can have an incubation period of up to 6 months. This would lead me to conclude that infants are vaccinated at birth as a precaution.Very well put, I for the life of me, could not understand why babies are vaccinated with Heb B within 48 hours of birth. Within hours of their birth they are already given toxins that will mess up their immune systems.
First, let me say that i teach in a High School that houses the autim intervention center for our 120 plus school district, and have an autistic family member.
Infants most often contract Hep B from their mothers at birth if the mother carries the disease. Pregnant women in the US are now routinely screened for Hep B but the disease can have an incubation period of up to 6 months. This would lead me to conclude that infants are vaccinated at birth as a precaution.
FWIW, my DD didn't get the Hep B vaccine in the hospital, she got it at her first ped appt at 6 days old. She was in NICU for 3 days after birth though & developed jaundice there, so that may have been why she wasn't given the vaccine until a few days later once the jaundice was cleared up.
1. A professor once told me that when an opponet stoops to personal attack it is becuase they are out of ammo. You just ran out. Sorry I am not perfect. Iam in fact dyslexic and tend to make transposition errors or leave out letters. It is not uncommon, as anyone who works in education SHOULD know, and poeple don't even realize they do it. I don't stop to spell check , and then copy and past text becuase it is just not worth it on a MESSAGE BOARD!Do you have your students proofread and spell check before they print??? Not wasting the time to comment bc I said it all in previous posts and I find it pointless. But before you state anything about Mercury - read the chelation studies. I have friends who had their children in them. And to quote:
"Symptoms in children
Mercury poisoning in Children is a cause of many symptoms of developmental disorders including Autism, Asperger’s, PDD-NOS, ADD.
Common neurological symptoms that occur in children are: decreased eye contact, flat affect, repeating certain actions over and over again, not responding to their name, not looking at an object that is being pointed at by another, poor concentration or attention, sensitivity to sensory stimulation. Common language or speech symptoms of mercury poisoning: loss of speech, delayed speech decreased understanding and articulating words, remembering certain words. Also common are social problems such as withdrawal, being irritated, aggressive behavior, night terrors and other sleep problems, mood swings. In addition other symptoms include auto-immune disorders such as multiple sclerosis, juvenile diabetes, asthma, chromic ear infections, and decreased immunity."
Well all have a good night! And I guess we can all just agree to disagree. There's never going to be any agreement on the topic. So we can all go back to living our lives and going back to what we know and believe for ourselves! I'll go to work tomorrow and enjoy my career with my little angels and hope that they have bright futures free of hardship and discrimination. Wish you all the same! Hasta!!![]()
1. A professor once told me that when an opponet stoops to personal attack it is becuase they are out of ammo. You just ran out. Sorry I am not perfect. Iam in fact dyslexic and tend to make transposition errors or leave out letters. It is not uncommon, as anyone who works in education SHOULD know, and poeple don't even realize they do it. I don't stop to spell check , and then copy and past text becuase it is just not worth it on a MESSAGE BOARD!
2. Just becuase someone says something doesn't make it true. I notice you don't give a source for your quote. Who said that? Whoever it was is either misinformed or purposely being deceptive. Mercury posioning in extremely late stages where the person is near death can peresnt in the way described here, but it would have been a progression over several months of chonic exposure to doses many times that present in a vaccine, or an acute exposure to a massive amount of mercury. The amount of mercury found in a vaccine does NOT have the ability to produce these kinds of symptoms. It is simply untrue. I know this because I worked in a lab that hosed large amounts of mercury, and we were all educated yearly on mercury posioning, how to spot the symptoms, threshold limits, and what to do if exposed.