Truth in advertising - location names

[bcla]

So we were thinking of going to an outlet mall today and wanted to look up their hours. It was a place originally known as Paragon Outlets at Livermore, and then Livermore Premium Outlets once it was sold to Simon Malls. However, where I looked it up it's now renamed "San Francisco Premium Outlets". Google Maps says it's a 38 mile drive from the San Francisco Ferry Building.

http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=107

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/San...3361da6a2cdb8!2m2!1d-121.8452204!2d37.6988245

Makes me think of all the other places where a place name is used but doesn't really apply. There's the San Francisco 49ers, whose headquarters and home field are in Santa Clara - maybe 40 miles away. San Francisco International Airport is several miles south of San Francisco. A lot of hotels in the area use "San Francisco" in their names, even when they're located across the Bay. Lagunitas Brewing isn't even in Lagunitas and the Marin French Cheese company isn't in Marin - they're both in Petaluma. Heck - the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company is in Chico - closer to the Cascades.

 

[chartle]

Around here everyone says they come from Pittsburgh even though 70% of them live outside the the city limits.

 

[bcla]

Another one I can think of is the team that was formerly the Los Angeles Angels, then the California Angels, later the Anaheim Angels, and now the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. I heard that their contract with the City of Anaheim to renovate the stadium required that "Anaheim" must be part of their name, so they came up with that unwieldy name.

Someone said that a direct translation of the full name is "The the Angels Angels of Anaheim".

 

[Tiffylv]

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[bcla]

I live in central kentucky about 90 minutes from cincinnati. I work in a hospital and all the time I ask people where they are from, they'll say cincinnati, then if I ask what part they'll say fort Thomas or fort wright or Florence, etc. all of which are not cincinnati, or even in ohio...they're in kentucky! At the very least say the correct state! It drives me crazy.

Once I called for customer service and ended up talking to someone at a customer service center in Covington. I suppose that might be considered "close enough". I heard the former baseball player David Justice grew up there but considers himself a Cincinnati native.

 

[barkley]

I always warn people to do a mapquest search of lodging locations when they planning a trip to my hometown of napa-so many outlying areas use the terms 'wine country' or 'napa gateway' for their place people can end up getting stuck way down in Vallejo or Fairfield neither of which are in wine country and if they are the gateway then once you enter that gate plan on one hecka long drive beyond.

 

[bcla]

I always warn people to do a mapquest search of lodging locations when they planning a trip to my hometown of napa-so many outlying areas use the terms 'wine country' or 'napa gateway' for their place people can end up getting stuck way down in Vallejo or Fairfield neither of which are in wine country and if they are the gateway then once you enter that gate plan on one hecka long drive beyond.

Solano County claims to have its own wine country. Does that count? Frankly - Napa itself isn't really wine country either, but it's been trying to redefine itself as a food and wine destination.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Another one I can think of is the team that was formerly the Los Angeles Angels, then the California Angels, later the Anaheim Angels, and now the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. I heard that their contract with the City of Anaheim to renovate the stadium required that "Anaheim" must be part of their name, so they came up with that unwieldy name.

Someone said that a direct translation of the full name is "The the Angels Angels of Anaheim".

They will always be the Anaheim Angels to me. Grew up with them. I miss going to their games.

 

[mnrose]

So we were thinking of going to an outlet mall today and wanted to look up their hours. It was a place originally known as Paragon Outlets at Livermore, and then Livermore Premium Outlets once it was sold to Simon Malls. However, where I looked it up it's now renamed "San Francisco Premium Outlets". Google Maps says it's a 38 mile drive from the San Francisco Ferry Building.

http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=107

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/San...3361da6a2cdb8!2m2!1d-121.8452204!2d37.6988245

Makes me think of all the other places where a place name is used but doesn't really apply. There's the San Francisco 49ers, whose headquarters and home field are in Santa Clara - maybe 40 miles away. San Francisco International Airport is several miles south of San Francisco. A lot of hotels in the area use "San Francisco" in their names, even when they're located across the Bay. Lagunitas Brewing isn't even in Lagunitas and the Marin French Cheese company isn't in Marin - they're both in Petaluma. Heck - the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company is in Chico - closer to the Cascades.

Only going to disagree with you on one small point. While the "mailing address" for the Marin French Cheese company is in Petaluma, the actual physical location of the factory (and store) is (in fact) in Marin County. No question about it. The Sonoma County line is about 8 miles north of the location on the Petaluma/Point Reyes Road. It is without a doubt in Marin. I do find it curious that they call it "petaluma" for a mailing address, but I'm guessing that's more of an historic relic than anything.

 

[bcla]

They will always be the Anaheim Angels to me. Grew up with them. I miss going to their games.

I think they were the "California Angels" for most of their history. However, that's kind of generic. I don't know of many Angels fans up here.

Only going to disagree with you on one small point. While the "mailing address" for the Marin French Cheese company is in Petaluma, the actual physical location of the factory (and store) is (in fact) in Marin County. No question about it. The Sonoma County line is about 8 miles north of the location on the Petaluma/Point Reyes Road. It is without a doubt in Marin. I do find it curious that they call it "petaluma" for a mailing address, but I'm guessing that's more of an historic relic than anything.

I drove by once. Wasn't quite sure where it was in relation to the border. And yeah they have a Petaluma mailing address. However, I've learned that mailing addresses can often be a fiction, especially when there's no official name for an unincorporated area. Once I wanted to buy a house, but it was technically in Richmond, CA. The seller advertised it as El Cerrito, which doesn't quite have the same negative reputation as Richmond. Then the title company came back with that, and as an incorrect material fact we could ask for our deposit back. And even the title company researched it, the owner was upset and said she couldn't possibly be living in Richmond, although she did offer to reduce the price. Later we found that she lowered the price even more since it was a bad market.

I live near Tilden Regional Park. It's almost completely within Contra Costa County, and all of the major attractions and in my county. The merry go round tickets say Berkeley and apparently that's what they use as a mailing address. As far as I can tell, the USPS is very lenient on this as long as they can figure out where to get something delivered. The house I mentioned I didn't buy apparently got its mail just fine even though the owner kept on using the incorrect city and zip code.

 

[Teresa Pitman]

I live in Guelph, Ontario, but when I am in the US and people ask where I am from, I just say Toronto. Because nobody's heard of Guelph.

 

[usnuzuloose]

I think they were the "California Angels" for most of their history. However, that's kind of generic. I don't know of many Angels fans up here.



I drove by once. Wasn't quite sure where it was in relation to the border. And yeah they have a Petaluma mailing address. However, I've learned that mailing addresses can often be a fiction, especially when there's no official name for an unincorporated area. Once I wanted to buy a house, but it was technically in Richmond, CA. The seller advertised it as El Cerrito, which doesn't quite have the same negative reputation as Richmond. Then the title company came back with that, and as an incorrect material fact we could ask for our deposit back. And even the title company researched it, the owner was upset and said she couldn't possibly be living in Richmond, although she did offer to reduce the price. Later we found that she lowered the price even more since it was a bad market.

I live near Tilden Regional Park. It's almost completely within Contra Costa County, and all of the major attractions and in my county. The merry go round tickets say Berkeley and apparently that's what they use as a mailing address. As far as I can tell, the USPS is very lenient on this as long as they can figure out where to get something delivered. The house I mentioned I didn't buy apparently got its mail just fine even though the owner kept on using the incorrect city and zip code.

Back in the 70's when the Angels played the Oakland A's they had tickets for DL after the game. I miss those days. I could see me being the only one at an Oakland game routing for my home team…

 

[Tiffylv]

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[tvguy]

Solano County claims to have its own wine country. Does that count? Frankly - Napa itself isn't really wine country either, but it's been trying to redefine itself as a food and wine destination.

True. Something over 40% of the grapes Napa uses are grown in Lodi. I just go to Lodi.

 

[SirDuff]

I live in central kentucky about 90 minutes from cincinnati. I work in a hospital and all the time I ask people where they are from, they'll say cincinnati, then if I ask what part they'll say fort Thomas or fort wright or Florence, etc. all of which are not cincinnati, or even in ohio...they're in kentucky! At the very least say the correct state! It drives me crazy.

Heck isn't the "Cincinnati" airport in Kentucky?

 

[Tiffylv]

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[SirDuff]

It is...but it's actually called Cincinnati/northern kentucky international airport.

Those people get me

But when I book a flight (at least on United and Delta), it just calls it Cincinnati and actually says it is in Ohio (Cincinnati, OH, US (CVG)). Just always found it funny.

The Toronto Airport (Pearson) is actually in Mississauga, though a bunch of the airport hotels are in Toronto.

 

[bcla]

True. Something over 40% of the grapes Napa uses are grown in Lodi. I just go to Lodi.

Depends on what you're getting at regarding the labeling. I read that US labeling laws state that it's got to be at least 75% of grapes (by weight?) from a certain region in order to be labeled with that origin. Now granted there's a lot of wine that's just labeled "California". There's also a lot of wine production well away from the growing region. The city of Napa has lots of mass production wineries like the ones operated by Bronco Wine. I guess their most notorious brand is "Charles Shaw" where a lot of people got confused by the label that had a "Napa" address, but not a "Napa Valley" origin. I've also visited the Woodinville, Washington wine country, and they don't grow wine grapes there. It's all wineries that get grapes shipped in from points south and east in the state.

 

[bcla]

Heck isn't the "Cincinnati" airport in Kentucky?

I guess that's close enough. I've heard of the Moscow-Pullman Airport near the Washington-Idaho border. I think the name is combined because it's a regional airport authority.

Closer to where I live there's some airport names meant evoke some other place. There's the Reno-Tahoe Airport, but that's named after the regional airport authority. Now "Fresno-Yosemite Airport" just reeks of Fresno wanting to be associated with Yosemite.

 

[diznygirl]

Another one I can think of is the team that was formerly the Los Angeles Angels, then the California Angels, later the Anaheim Angels, and now the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. I heard that their contract with the City of Anaheim to renovate the stadium required that "Anaheim" must be part of their name, so they came up with that unwieldy name.

Someone said that a direct translation of the full name is "The the Angels Angels of Anaheim".

As a Dodger fan, this peeves me to no end. The Angels are in Orange County, in the city of Anaheim, 25 miles from Los Angeles and Los Angeles already has a team!

I have a shirt that says "The Los Angeles Dodgers of Los Angeles."