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[Piecey]

That is exciting Patsy...that means it is right around the corner.
Did I read you are staying at CSR? We are going 11/6 and that is where we are now staying.

Yeah, we went from POP to CBR and now to CSR.

I decided to go with them because of the gym for DH.


We leave 10/31, so we'll just miss each other.

It looks like a gorgeous resort!!

 

[MelessaG]

This is such a trivial thing, but I'm sharing anyway. This morning as I was dropping my kids off for school, my middle school-aged daughter did something she's never done before. As she got out of the car, she paused and checked her make-up (what little I allow her to wear) in the side-mirror of my car before rushing into the school building. Such a small action, such a big signal to me that she is growing up. And I could swear that I JUST brought her home from the hospital yesterday. I'm hugging Alexis extra tight today and spending just a little more time holding her and a little less worrying about my messy house. It is over in the blink of an eye. <sniff>

 

[MinnieFan4ever]

MelessaG- I know what you mean by it iis over so fast. Yesterday I found the same sleeper that I loved for Natalie. She had on in the newborn size. Her new one is a 6 month size (she is actually just 3 months old). I compared the two together and I can't believe how much she has grown already. I could almost cry. People told me this would happen, I just didn't believe them. She is growning up soooo fast.

 

[staley7580]

Got my Magical Express paperwork today. Woohoooo!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Ladies, sorry I've been MIA. I have been lurking, but really had not the time nor energy to post. I've been so tired. I don't have words to express how very hard & draining taking care of 2 infants is. I love them but I am so beat, all the time.

I haven't been able to get either of them to the breast, so have still been pumping, but not often enough. I'm down to only 3 pumps per day, and am uncomfortable most of the time. I'm still getting 30-some oz at those 3 pumps, so quite a bit of milk, but not enough for 2. I've been using frozen milk regularly. We also started experimenting w/ formula. Dylan seems to have an iron gut & tolerates most things without complaint. Katie is waaaayyyy sensitive. Katie is also colicky. She has screaming fits where nothing seems to comfort her. Often enough, nothing but lying on mom is comforting, that's draining too. Also I just can't hold her all the time, I have to take care of Dylan too. My poor 6 year old is really missing my presence, he's totally getting the least of me & my time. And I'm missing him too.

I know this will get better, it's not forever --- but right now it really sucks. Yesterday I was fantasizing about taking my older son down to WDW for a 3 day Mom & Dan weekend -- we could certainly both use it, but it's so not feasible. Nice fantasy, but that's all it can be. I could use a vacation, even if only for a couple of days, but there is no one to leave babies with. These 2 have me, DH & MIL all completely exhausted & DH has to work. My mom has been coming over to help where she can, but it is limited.

Having just 1 baby would be soooooo much easier, even if it were just 1 colicky, cranky baby. Having 2, feeding needs extra hands, unless one sleeps longer than the other, and then it just takes 1 person a really long time. Having 2, I haven't managed to get out of the house w/o another set of adult hands to help & that makes me feel crazed and cranky, on top of sleep deprived. Today I need to take Dylan to the ped, I think my MIL will watch Katie at home. Going out w/ just 1 baby, even a baby on a monitor just isn't that hard......

Staley, any words of wisdom for me? How long before it got better for you? Well that's my long drawn out whine......

I wish I could be there to help you. I am so sorry you are having a hard time.

my husband works nights, so I am on baby duty pretty much 24/7. I might get to nap for an hour or two in the morning when he gets home. For feeding times I would prop them both up on a pillow and feed them together. That way I got the face to face, and I could do them both at the same time.

When the babies were teeny, one of them was super fussy all the time. For the life of me, I cant remember which one! but I would stick the fussy baby in the Bjorn, or sling to keep them close, that way my hands were free to take care of the rest of the kiddos.

I KNOW how hard it is to pump, and try to keep giving your babies breast milk. I could only do it for 6 weeks, so good for you for keeping it up for so long! One thing you might try.. not sure if you have or not.. But try giving Katie the breastmilk if she isnt handling formula as well. We had to do that with Jazz and VInny. Vinny is a tank, adn can drink anything, but Jazz was more sensitive. So she got the breast milk, and Vinny got formula first. Sometimes there just isnt enough to go around.

Also the babies are on Similac sensitive RS. it has helped SO MUCH with the spitting up. It seems on my twin boards that most of us using that, or the enfamil equivalent. The rice starch really helps keep the formula down, and from ending up all over my shirt, the floor.. couch.. all that!

It has been the last couple of months that things seem to be leveling out for me. The babies were sleeping in the same crib, and I had to separate them. They now sleep much better. We are down to about feeding a night. The big problem I have is them waking each other up at night when they cry.

I wont lie. It is HARD. The hardest thing I have ever done. But it WILL get better. I used to just BAWL in the evenings from sheer exhaustion, and BEG my husband to stay home from work and help me. When it came to spending time witht he biggers, I had them involved in everything I was doing with the babies. bathtime, diaper changing.. we would read the babies stories together..

Anything you can do to get a minute of relaxing time, taking a bath/ shower and ENJOYING it.. Or even grocery shopping by yourself. It helps like I cant even tell you.

Anyways.. I wish I could be there to help you, and it DOES get better. Pretty soon everyone in your family will fall into a groove with the babies, and it will seem like have always been there!

This is such a trivial thing, but I'm sharing anyway. This morning as I was dropping my kids off for school, my middle school-aged daughter did something she's never done before. As she got out of the car, she paused and checked her make-up (what little I allow her to wear) in the side-mirror of my car before rushing into the school building. Such a small action, such a big signal to me that she is growing up. And I could swear that I JUST brought her home from the hospital yesterday. I'm hugging Alexis extra tight today and spending just a little more time holding her and a little less worrying about my messy house. It is over in the blink of an eye. <sniff>

Oy. get that with Alex.. He is only 7, but everyonce in a while he does something and it just hits me. He sint a baby anymore!

 

[staley7580]

I also wanted to add that you might want to look into joining a moms of multiples group.. I am, I go to my first meeting next Thursday with my friend that is having triplets.. im looking forward to it. Also on my twin boards we have started a new board, done by one a few of the women.. It is still a work in progress, but you are more then welcome to join us there! These women have been so helpful, and no subject is off limits. It is nice to have people that are going through the SAME EXACT thing that we are. Twins are totally different than singletons, So having people that have been there, done that and have the shirt is really nice! Also check out twin magazine. That is the original board we are all on as well.

http://www.twinbible.com/

 

[staley7580]

Booo.... My moms of multiples meeting is TOMORROW. Not next week. Dh has his Vasectomy tomorrow. I guess that means I dont get to go. I really dont think he is going to feel up to taking care of two 6 month olds after having his balls all worked over.

 

[Disney Ron]

Booo.... My moms of multiples meeting is TOMORROW. Not next week. Dh has his Vasectomy tomorrow. I guess that means I dont get to go. I really dont think he is going to feel up to taking care of two 6 month olds after having his balls all worked over.

...this made me almost spit out my coffee!!!!

 

[DannysMom]

I wish I could be there to help you. I am so sorry you are having a hard time.

my husband works nights, so I am on baby duty pretty much 24/7. I might get to nap for an hour or two in the morning when he gets home. For feeding times I would prop them both up on a pillow and feed them together. That way I got the face to face, and I could do them both at the same time.

Thanks Megan. I don't think I can feed them both at the same time yet. Still too much like newborns, and yet not. I have a hard time deciding how old to consider these 2, as they are & likely will continue to track somewhere between their real & adjusted ages.

When the babies were teeny, one of them was super fussy all the time. For the life of me, I cant remember which one! but I would stick the fussy baby in the Bjorn, or sling to keep them close, that way my hands were free to take care of the rest of the kiddos.

I need to pull out my bjorn & figure it out again.

I KNOW how hard it is to pump, and try to keep giving your babies breast milk. I could only do it for 6 weeks, so good for you for keeping it up for so long! One thing you might try.. not sure if you have or not.. But try giving Katie the breastmilk if she isnt handling formula as well. We had to do that with Jazz and VInny. Vinny is a tank, adn can drink anything, but Jazz was more sensitive. So she got the breast milk, and Vinny got formula first. Sometimes there just isnt enough to go around.

I am fortunate to be a good pumper. I exclusively pumped for my older son for almost 2 years. So while they were in the hospital & even when only Katie was home I was able to pump enough (about 5-6x a day.) It's only in the last 2 weeks since Dylan got home that I've felt like there aren't enough hours in the day to do everything. I still have a bunch of milk in th e freezer, maybe enough to keep this up another month or 6 weeks. By then Katies gut may mature a bit more & handle formula better.

Also the babies are on Similac sensitive RS. it has helped SO MUCH with the spitting up. It seems on my twin boards that most of us using that, or the enfamil equivalent. The rice starch really helps keep the formula down, and from ending up all over my shirt, the floor.. couch.. all that!

I figure I still have some time to figure out a formula that works for them both. I've got a mess of free samples in the closet to work my way through, as well as all the formula check coupons to buy the various sensitive formulas

It has been the last couple of months that things seem to be leveling out for me. The babies were sleeping in the same crib, and I had to separate them. They now sleep much better. We are down to about feeding a night. The big problem I have is them waking each other up at night when they cry.

I wont lie. It is HARD. The hardest thing I have ever done. But it WILL get better. I used to just BAWL in the evenings from sheer exhaustion, and BEG my husband to stay home from work and help me. When it came to spending time witht he biggers, I had them involved in everything I was doing with the babies. bathtime, diaper changing.. we would read the babies stories together..

It's just tough as my older son is only 6. He is at school from 8:30 to almost 4. When he gets home we're both kind of fried already. And in the AM, I'm pretty busy with the babies, so it's been my MIL helping him get ready for school. He also has mild CP, so does need more assistance than other 6 year olds, it makes it hard to do things with both him & the babies.

Last night was particularly tough. The babies woke up staggered, so by the time I finished the midnight feedings (11:15 & midnight) I got to lie down at 1AM -- Katie was waking for the next feed by 2:30. Then neither would settle back to bed. I was up from 2:30 til almost 5:30 when MIL took over for an hour & I laid down in her bed & got to cuddle older DS, who had made his way to her room at some point -- but just for an hour. I'm amazed I'm still conscious.....

Anything you can do to get a minute of relaxing time, taking a bath/ shower and ENJOYING it.. Or even grocery shopping by yourself. It helps like I cant even tell you.

Anyways.. I wish I could be there to help you, and it DOES get better. Pretty soon everyone in your family will fall into a groove with the babies, and it will seem like have always been there!

I'm looking forward to them sleeping (mostly) through the night & getting into a predictable routine in terms of naps.

I also wanted to add that you might want to look into joining a moms of multiples group.. I am, I go to my first meeting next Thursday with my friend that is having triplets.. im looking forward to it. Also on my twin boards we have started a new board, done by one a few of the women.. It is still a work in progress, but you are more then welcome to join us there! These women have been so helpful, and no subject is off limits. It is nice to have people that are going through the SAME EXACT thing that we are. Twins are totally different than singletons, So having people that have been there, done that and have the shirt is really nice! Also check out twin magazine. That is the original board we are all on as well.

http://www.twinbible.com/

Thanks I briefly checked that site last night, created a new username. I'll have to start posting there. The local mothers of multiples club has weeknight evening meetings that I just don't think I could get to, DH has a long commute & honestly can't really take over babycare when he gets in. He helps, with babies, dinner, older DS, the dog -- but he's too fried to just take over. And of course, the meetings are "no children" meetings.

Booo.... My moms of multiples meeting is TOMORROW. Not next week. Dh has his Vasectomy tomorrow. I guess that means I dont get to go. I really dont think he is going to feel up to taking care of two 6 month olds after having his balls all worked over.

Good luck to your DH -- I hope he recovers quickly. I agree, he probably won't be up to babycare just yet.

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

Booo.... My moms of multiples meeting is TOMORROW. Not next week. Dh has his Vasectomy tomorrow. I guess that means I dont get to go. I really dont think he is going to feel up to taking care of two 6 month olds after having his balls all worked over.

Funniest thing I have read on here in a while! Hope he recovers quickly!

 

[Piecey]

So I think I just experienced a major mommy moment that you people have discussed before...

My cousin and his wife (who had baby Noah in March) just made an announcement on Facebook that she is pregnant again.
Er, well, I assume so. The picture was labeled "Public Announcement" and was her with Noah and then at the bottom said 'Knowing there are THREE people in this picture: Priceless'

So. It makes me nostalgic and sad but happy for them, too. Odd.
I'm still not 100% on another baby but having these feelings everytime the people around me announce pregnancies makes me think it's going to happen.

Just thought I'd share... I figured you guys could understand more than anyone else. I know my DH would think I was nuts. lol.

 

[Disney Ron]

Patsy, completely normal.

 

[staley7580]

So I think I just experienced a major mommy moment that you people have discussed before...

My cousin and his wife (who had baby Noah in March) just made an announcement on Facebook that she is pregnant again.
Er, well, I assume so. The picture was labeled "Public Announcement" and was her with Noah and then at the bottom said 'Knowing there are THREE people in this picture: Priceless'

So. It makes me nostalgic and sad but happy for them, too. Odd.
I'm still not 100% on another baby but having these feelings everytime the people around me announce pregnancies makes me think it's going to happen.

Just thought I'd share... I figured you guys could understand more than anyone else. I know my DH would think I was nuts. lol.

I totally understand. I would LOVE to get pregnant again, but I know it isnt what our family needs. Its just me being selfish, wanting another pregnancy, baby..

SO. They canceled hubbys appt. We go in, they call him back.. and the Dr. examines him, tugs on his bit for a while.. does an exam, whatever.. Then says, I cant do it today, come back next week! GRRRRR! Seriously! He was all psyched up for it, only to have them tell him to came back. No he doesnt want to do it.

 

[ShootingStarMom2]

I totally understand. I would LOVE to get pregnant again, but I know it isnt what our family needs. Its just me being selfish, wanting another pregnancy, baby..

SO. They canceled hubbys appt. We go in, they call him back.. and the Dr. examines him, tugs on his bit for a while.. does an exam, whatever.. Then says, I cant do it today, come back next week! GRRRRR! Seriously! He was all psyched up for it, only to have them tell him to came back. No he doesnt want to do it.

Wow, first the "worked over" comment was so hilarious! DH would not want to go through with it either. What was his reason for not doing it? I bet he was mentally ready then shocked and relieved all at the same time.

DH and I want one more, but he jokes he wants two more so we can be a family of 6 and no-one has to ride alone at Disney. Ha!

 

[staley7580]

Wow, first the "worked over" comment was so hilarious! DH would not want to go through with it either. What was his reason for not doing it? I bet he was mentally ready then shocked and relieved all at the same time.

DH and I want one more, but he jokes he wants two more so we can be a family of 6 and no-one has to ride alone at Disney. Ha!

I guess one of the dr. had a heart attack or something. Good reason not to do it, but they should have called us. They totally led us to believe it was happening today. Even the nurses thought it was happening. DH also said that they were really grilling him about it. We have a ton of kids.. We are READY!

That is exactly how he felt. I could tell he was starting to get really nervous on the drive over... He kinda braced himself... Then nothing! We walked out, and he was like.. DAMN!! I shaved my balls for nothing! Yeah... We arent the most discrete family around.

I think we would both love more kids.. But I KNOW we cant afford to have more. Maybe you will get lucky and have twins!!

 

[december]

I'm not getting that feeling anymore, so I guess that means getting the tubal was the right thing for me! I'm loving every moment with Katie, but she is the caboose. We are too old, and we don't have enough money or room for the 3 we have!

She got her 4 mo shots today, and is really fussy. She weighed 15 1/2 lbs! The dr says we can start oatmeal if we want, but it isn't necessary. He again looked shocked that she has had nothing but breastmilk for 4 mos!

 

[Piecey]

double post

 

[Piecey]

Another person just told me that she is pregnant.

I now know 9 people who are expecting.

Definitely have that feeling.

NINE?!

*Eta*
and the last one told me by saying that I can "drop off Lucas' baby stuff" on her porch for her.
Uh, no. Not quite.

 

[staley7580]

I know TONS of people that are pregnant. My husbands friends are all starting to have babies. I know that is why I am having a hard time with the whole no more baby thing.

 

[TiggerStac]

Another person just told me that she is pregnant.

I now know 9 people who are expecting.

Definitely have that feeling.

NINE?!

*Eta*
and the last one told me by saying that I can "drop off Lucas' baby stuff" on her porch for her.
Uh, no. Not quite.

Ok....well that's just not nice. Sure, I'll just drop my kids stuff off to you cuz you told me so. Ummmm...no. I don't understand people sometime.

 

[Maggimus]

Alexis was a sleepy nurser too. She still is to some extent, but I had a horrible time getting her to wake up and eat during those first two weeks. Everything you are describing here is really familiar.

As far as the weight gain goes, that would worry me too. I wonder if Baby Jake's sleepy attitude is keeping your body from knowing how much milk to produce? (I had that problem with my oldest DD.) I wish I had some wealth of knowledge about this to solve the problem, make him gain weight, and make you feel better; but all I do know to do is to call a lactation consultant or even the number for your local La Leche League. Those women are miracle workers in my opinion. What they probably wouldn't want me to tell you is that I had to supplement my son from pretty early on with 1-2 bottles per day and we had the best of both worlds that way. I nursed first thing in the morning, gave a bottle at the second feeding (or better, got someone else to do it while I ran errands from time to time), nursed the rest of the day, gave him a bottle around dinner time, then nursed before bed. I'm a big believer in breastfeeding, but an even bigger believer in babies gaining weight and mamas staying sane! Hang in there and do what feels right for you and Jake!

(I was able to nurse my other kids exclusively and I did nothing different with them. Each one is just their own person with their own needs.)

Melessa- that is exactly what we are doing. Supplementing... i supplement around 10-11am and again at about 8-9pm.

Im having a hard time feeding him often because he sleeps so much- or has no desire to eat. And when he gets those two bottles its as if its intoxicating to him.

Im going to buy a pump today (electric). He nurses great on my right side, but never on my left. It always feels full and if anything i need some relief. Id also like to know how much im producing so i can give that to him in a bottle if need be instead of formula.