Rumors that Disney is in negotiations to sell Star Wars back to George Lucas!

[ttintagel]

Same with Luke and being the grumpy pessimistic miserable hermit. There has to be more of explanation than one event in time for this, no matter how traumatic that one event was.

False equivalency is false.
Comparing "Character A, a combat veteran who suffered great trauma in his youth, experiences another series of extremely traumatic events twenty years later, causing him to doubt himself and his beliefs so much that it convinces him society is better off without him" and "We witnessed the death of Character B thirty years ago and now he's suddenly alive again" is comparing apples and oranges. The former gives just enough information that an intelligent viewer can fill in the blanks without being bogged down by detail. The latter is handwaving and removing all stakes from the story.

 

[nancipants]

Well, I just got back from Indy - it's very good!

Going Tuesday - the day off coincided with cheap seats day. I'm not super excited about it, because the only Indy movie I really like is Last Crusade, but I hope I like this one!

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

Going Tuesday - the day off coincided with cheap seats day. I'm not super excited about it, because the only Indy movie I really like is Last Crusade, but I hope I like this one!

Blasphemy, you don’t like Raiders? It’s a near perfect movie!

 

[BrianL]

Going Tuesday - the day off coincided with cheap seats day. I'm not super excited about it, because the only Indy movie I really like is Last Crusade, but I hope I like this one!

Hot Take: THe Last Crusade is my least favrotie one - and that includes this one.

 

[mdmost]

Hot Take: THe Last Crusade is my least favrotie one - and that includes this one.

 

[BrianL]

I'll leave a little review of Dial of Destiny. I won't really include spoilers, but I'll hide it anyway.

The fifth Indiana Jones movie starts off in the waning days of WWII with Indy doing some spying/archeology. The de-aged Harrison Ford looks pretty good and this is used for a good, long section of the movie. In fact, teh first part as whole is pretty satisfying if it was just like a mini-episode or something - great action and lots of typical Indy mishaps. Thus sets up the chace for the new McGuffin, the Antikythera Mechanism (a real artifiact). We then jump forard to 1969 where Indy is winding down his teaching career in Manhattan. Here's where hoebe Waller-Bridge comes in, and Helena is a firecracker for sure! She's...not as nice as I expected, in fact acting as a foil for a good part of the film - she does a good job though. The more affable foil is the kid, Teddy, who fills that Short Round role in the movie. They end up having a nice family dynamic, even if it's a family that doesn't get along that well. There are several chase sequences, as is a staple of Indy films, and they are among the best in the series, and don't go on too long as they sometimes can - they're also pretty unique. The movie does fall prey to a typical Indy trope that only Temple of Doom avoids, and that is basically leading the bad guys to the very thing you don't want them to find! Things get a little "out there" in the climax, but I think it worked well. I had been worried about the tone with James Mangold directing instead of Spielberg, but he really nailed it. I had a great time watching this movie. Honestly, it feels like it didn't even have to end with this one - I'd watch more for sure!

 

[nancipants]

Hot Take: THe Last Crusade is my least favrotie one - and that includes this one.

It's okay to be wrong!

 

[BrianL]

It's okay to be wrong!

Hey, I still think it's a GREAT movie. It's like saying that Attack of the Clones is my least favorite Star Wars movie - it's still in my Top 11 movies of all time!

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

No way you can put that behind the garbage released under Disney’s leadership. Just not possible.

 

[BrianL]

No way you can put that behind the garbage released under Disney’s leadership. Just not possible.

Well, it's hard to rank them. These days I just consider all of Star Wars as one thing - my favorite thing. If I really had to, my ranking might look something like this, though movies can move a slot depending on my mood. I consider them all to be GREAT movies though!

1. The Pahntom Menace
2. The Rise of Skywalker
3. Return of the Jedi
4. A New Hope
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Rogue One
7. Solo
8. The Force Awakens
9. The Empire Strikes Back
10. The Last Jedi
11. Attack of the Clones

Note that the middle act of all three trilogies are at the bottom. I guess I just don't like them as much. Solo and Rogue One can both easily swap places too as both are great, but I vasilate between which one I like more.

And, I'll throw in Indiana Jones for good measure:

1. Temple of Doom
2. Raiders of the Lost Ark
3. Dial of Destiny
4. Kingdom fo the Crystal Skull
5. The Last Crusade

 

[mdmost]

 

[BrianL]

Yeah, and I don't feel that way to be contrarian or whatever, it's just my honest reactions. Obviously I tend to really skew toward the lighter/sillier content. That's why I love Disney and cartoons and comic books. The more seriously you take this stuff, the less it works for me. I like when they have fun with it!

The new Indy movie certainly has fun too. There are parts that make no sense, just like in all of them, but they just gloss over it and ove along. There's nothing to see there - it's Indiana Jones for crying out loud!

 

[nancipants]

Man, I haven't even considered my Star Wars rankings for a long time. I think this is mine? Maybe? I haven't watched Rise of Skywalker nearly as much as the others because I literally gave birth six days before the movie came out.

1. Return of the Jedi
2. The Force Awakens
3. A New Hope
4. The Empire Strikes Back
5. Rogue One
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. The Rise of Skywalker
8. The Last Jedi
9. Attack of the Clones
10. The Phantom Menace
11. Solo

 

[mdmost]

Yeah, and I don't feel that way to be contrarian or whatever, it's just my honest reactions. Obviously I tend to really skew toward the lighter/sillier content. That's why I love Disney and cartoons and comic books. The more seriously you take this stuff, the less it works for me. I like when they have fun with it!

The new Indy movie certainly has fun too. There are parts that make no sense, just like in all of them, but they just gloss over it and ove along. There's nothing to see there - it's Indiana Jones for crying out loud!

May I ask your age range? I want to see if my theory on your rankings hold water as I think each generation might see their movies as the best since that's the special window of adolescence they were in at the time the movies came out.

My rankings:
1. Empire
2. Star Wars
3. Jedi
4. Rogue One
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Phantom Menace
7. The Last Jedi
8. The Force Awakens
9. Solo
10. Attack of the Clones
11. Rise of Somehow Palpatine Returned

As a kid, I would've put Jedi as my top one but as the years went on Empire moved up there as the Yoda scenes made more sense to me. Yet, I'm still sentimental to both Jedi and Temple of Doom as those were at the perfect age of 7-8 for me.

 

[BrianL]

May I ask your age range? I want to see if my theory on your rankings hold water as I think each generation might see their movies as the best since that's the special window of adolescence they were in at the time the movies came out.

My rankings:
1. Empire
2. Star Wars
3. Jedi
4. Rogue One
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Phantom Menace
7. The Last Jedi
8. The Force Awakens
9. Solo
10. Attack of the Clones
11. Rise of Somehow Palpatine Returned

As a kid, I would've put Jedi as my top one but as the years went on Empire moved up there as the Yoda scenes made more sense to me. Yet, I'm still sentimental to both Jedi and Temple of Doom as those were at the perfect age of 7-8 for me.

Time for a shocker, I'm am totally a Gen-X 80's kid - born in '78. I am SUPPOSED to revere the OT and was in college when the Prequels came out. I still love them!

 

[HokieRaven5]

I’ll play this game, I am a Millennial and my first exposure was the SE releases of the mid 90s

1. Empire
2. Star Wars
3. Rogue One
4. The Last Jedi
5. Return of the Jedi
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. Phantom Menace
8. Solo
9. A New Hope Rebooted
10. Attack of the Clones
11. That guy Palpatine somehow returned

 

[mdmost]

This is a fantastic follow on Twitter and quite topical today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674709134355079168

 

[irlandaise]

It's okay to be wrong!

Hey, I still think it's a GREAT movie. It's like saying that Attack of the Clones is my least favorite Star Wars movie - it's still in my Top 11 movies of all time!

Well...I'll let you go on that, then, but just barely.

"Raiders" was delightful, and of course holds a special place because it introduced us to the rascally Dr. Jones. But "Last Crusade" not only had that wonderful pairing with his father, it gave us that poignant scene where Dad gives up the thing he's been looking for all his life to save his estranged son. That immediately made it my favorite Indy film--even before all the heroes rode off into the sunset!

 

[BrianL]

Well...I'll let you go on that, then, but just barely.

"Raiders" was delightful, and of course holds a special place because it introduced us to the rascally Dr. Jones. But "Last Crusade" not only had that wonderful pairing with his father, it gave us that poignant scene where Dad gives up the thing he's been looking for all his life to save his estranged son. That immediately made it my favorite Indy film--even before all the heroes rode off into the sunset!

I just think Crusade is too long with some terribly drawn out chase sequences. It also suffers from Some-people-didn't-like-Temple-of-Doom-so-let's be-more-like-Raiders-itis. That's a trademark ailment that can apply to a lot of movies.

 

[irlandaise]

1. Temple of Doom
2. Raiders of the Lost Ark
3. Dial of Destiny
4. Kingdom fo the Crystal Skull
5. The Last Crusade

Sorry, but we can't just let you toss out that list and go away. You've got some 'splaining to do. How on earth could you put "Crystal Skull" above anything, much less "Last Crusade"??? Heck, "Last Crusade" gets 80 points alone just for Sean Connery!!!