Post Racial President?

[loco4dis]

Regardless...are ALL Americans afforded the same rights?
Yes or No? Caucasion is the majority, majority rules (generally speaking) so the answer to the above question reflects on the majority race.

So there again whether "white has embraced right" depends on whether ALL Americans are afforded the same rights. That's my point.

Yes, all Americans are afforded the same rights, and if you consider affirmative action, some are afforded equal rights and then a few extra rights not extended to everyone.

 

[Cindy F]

I dont know how I feel about that benediction speech being appropriate in that forum at all .... but what I do know from being here amongst a black population is that they CHEERED it .... so maybe its the non-black population who found it offensive and want to move on and forget about all that, and yet the black population still totally identifies with it is a huge part of their very recent history - many of whom lived during those times.

Would be interesting to see on the board how many of the people who found it offensive are white and how many are black.

Its a period of history the American white population is accutely embarrased of as whilst being the most advanced nation on earth the country also supported and enforced appartheid, generations after all the other major societies deemed it illegal and immoral. For the black American this is the point where their America was born - only a very short 40 years ago so its still highly influential to them.

 

[islandmum]

I found it offensive and I'm multi-racial.

I didnt know how to take it - its kind of left me perplexed in a way.

You dont have to answer, obviously, this but again would be interesting from a point of view - are you a Dem or a Rep - would that have swayed your view on it in any way?, as it seems mostly to be Reps totally offended by it, picking up on a very controversial statement.

as I say I found it odd - and probably not the right time to say it! Had he said it 10 minutes later in an interview I doubt anyone would have picked it up. But the forum he chose to say that - he knew he was going to get the biggest impact from it.

 

[Cindy F]

Yes, all Americans are afforded the same rights, and if you consider affirmative action, some are afforded equal rights and then a few extra rights not extended to everyone.

I wish that were true

 

[Goofyluver]

Yes, all Americans are afforded the same rights, and if you consider affirmative action, some are afforded equal rights and then a few extra rights not extended to everyone.

In what world are you living?

 

[DISUNC]

When white embraces right".

Are we sure it's not "When white embraces Wright".

I would have added, When LIME is due it's Dime! We Disers get no respect!

 

[loco4dis]

I wish that were true

Which Americans have different rights than others? I think I missed this.

 

[DawnCt1]

Are we sure it's not "When white embraces Wright".

I would have added, When LIME is due it's Dime! We Disers get no respect!

Now that is a possibility that I didn't consider.

 

[RickinNYC]

Which Americans have different rights than others? I think I missed this.

I'm going to look at your post as sarcasm.

 

[DebbieB]

Typical Liberal. You know you are wrong so you avoid the question. Nice try

I didn't avoid the question and I don't think I'm wrong. I voted for change. A change from Bush and the last 8 years. I don't have a problem with experienced people from the Clinton years being in the new administration. In my book, those were great years.

 

[islangrl]

I'm 1/2 white, 3/8 brown (pac. islander) and 1/8yellow. I did not find it offensive at all. I was born in '72 and never heard that exact saying before, but I knew right away that he was borrowing a saying from the civil rights movement.

And THAT is exactly why the words were spoken today. Because we have come so far.
Everyone (most here) are taking this out of context.

I totally agree!

I'm sure that everything was vetted prior to today, so either the Obama people approved of it beforehand or the good Reverend went off the reservation.

You thought the sentence was racist, but your statement above truly is.

[QUOTE="Got Disney";29793641]I started laughing when I heard it and noticed Pres Obamas face....I thought to myself...WHAT did he just say It had the rhythm of what a hippie would have said....maybe not the words but the rhythm.

I did not find his words offensive as in that he was being racist like REV Wright did...not even close but I think he could have used different words to get his point across. He is an older black man that has lived much of his life dealing with inequality. I found him to be a very proud man of what was about to happen....the first black POTUS.

I got the feeling from what he said, that he is hoping that all in the world can live as one...not as of different colors.

That is what I took from it. Nothing more nothing less.[/QUOTE]

That's what I took from it also.

 

[loco4dis]

I'm going to look at your post as sarcasm.

No, it was a serious question. You have claimed that some Americans do not have the same rights in this country as others. Which ones? Which rights?

 

[bicker]

You thought the sentence was racist, but your statement above truly is.

 

[Cindy F]

No, it was a serious question. You have claimed that some Americans do not have the same rights in this country as others. Which ones? Which rights?

 

[bicker]

Back to something serious... Regarding the earlier discussion about the use of the term "non-believers"... There are definitely two schools of thought. As I mentioned before, it is offensive to many Atheists, defining them by what they're not, instead of defining them by what they are. However, one Atheist posted a counter-thought:

Like many across our nation, I just listened to Obama's historic inaugurational address. At one point he said:

Obama: We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus — and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth....

What a huge contrast with:

Reporter: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are Atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

 

[islandmum]

You thought the sentence was racist, but your statement above truly is.



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I can respect peoples political dfferences, their right to their own religious beliefs, but that was a HUGELY racist statement by MKingdomLVR which has no place on this board ..... nowhere on the planet actually. Disgusting.

 

[Goofyluver]

No, it was a serious question. You have claimed that some Americans do not have the same rights in this country as others. Which ones? Which rights?

Your question hardly deserves the response I'm giving it now, loco.

Be real. Look around.

You shouldn't have to look very far to find those in our country that are persecuted against.

Some of us stare ya' in the face every day.

 

[Goofyluver]

Back to something serious... Regarding the earlier discussion about the use of the term "non-believers"... There are definitely two schools of thought. As I mentioned before, it is offensive to many Atheists, defining them by what they're not, instead of defining them by what they are. However, one Atheist posted a counter-thought:

 

[purplepaint]

I in no way hold Obama responsible for Lowery's racist statement in his prayer.

ITA

 

[Cindy F]

Back to something serious... :

As opposed to what?