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[lilyv]

Great night for Obama!!!


9 in a row!!!

Yes, We Can!!

 

[Honu]

Go Obama!

MSNBC just cut HRC off mid-speech to go to Obama saying his pre-speech thank yous. Not nice. I wonder if she congratulated Obama on the win this time.

 

[nataliela]

Even before the 2004 DNC me DH (who's a political nut) started telling me about this guy in Chicago who was a great speaker and who he thought had a real chance at being the first African American president. We watched his speech at the 2004 DNC because we'd heard so much about him. Since that day, I pretty much figured I'd be supporting him at some point down the line. Since the beginning of this campaign, I thought it was his to lose. Looks like I might have been right.

My husband said the same thing!



One reason why I support him is because so many closed minded people do not support him. I am against closed mindedness. I am tired of people talking trash about him because of his name, I am tired of them saying that he is not patriotic because he doesn't wear a flag pin and I am tired of people saying he is playing the race card.

I couldn't vote in my state's primary (independent) But he stil won!

 

[wvrevy]

Go Obama!

MSNBC just cut HRC off mid-speech to go to Obama saying his pre-speech thank yous. Not nice. I wonder if she congratulated Obama on the win this time.

Not a chance. Don't you know he only wins insignificant states?

She actually released a copy of her speech tonight...just more of the same negative, desperate crap she's been pulling for the last week.

She's beat, and she's starting to realize it.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I was just watching Russert on the Today show and he was saying that she has to win in Ohio and Texas by margins that she has never achieved before. It doesn't look good for her now, and even though I'm supporting Obama and voted for him in the Primary, there's something about it that makes me a little sad. Why did we have to have two such GREAT candidates in ONE year!!! Why couldn't one of them have run in 2004!!!!

 

[NewJersey]

10 in a row. We won HI with 75% of the vote.

Fits, I saw that too and I think Chuck Todd last night said Obama needs 65% of the remaining states to clinch just with the pledged delegates, and Clinton needs 65% just to catch him in delegates. That was before Hawaii, so it looks like we already met that with one state!

I hope he is ready for whatever is thrown at him at the debate - I'm expecting nothing short of the other side claiming he has a love child.

 

[NewJersey]

Not a chance. Don't you know he only wins insignificant states?

She actually released a copy of her speech tonight...just more of the same negative, desperate crap she's been pulling for the last week.

She's beat, and she's starting to realize it.

At what point does she look at what she is doing (negativity) and realize it's not only harming the party, but her future in the Senate.

 

[Reflection]

10 in a row. We won HI with 75% of the vote.

Fits, I saw that too and I think Chuck Todd last night said Obama needs 65% of the remaining states to clinch just with the pledged delegates, and Clinton needs 65% just to catch him in delegates. That was before Hawaii, so it looks like we already met that with one state!

I hope he is ready for whatever is thrown at him at the debate - I'm expecting nothing short of the other side claiming he has a love child.

Well, given Bill's past, umm shall we say indiscretions, HRC should stay far, far away from love child claims.

 

[Laura]

Hooray for Obama!

 

[chris1gill]

At what point does she look at what she is doing (negativity) and realize it's not only harming the party, but her future in the Senate.

Honestly I don't think it matters, she will go until the end.... that's the way it is, just take what she's doing in Florida and Michigan.... where everyone had agreed those delegates would not be counted.

Actually what Chuck Todd said, was that she needed 58% from here on out, then he indicated which states remaining they felt were solidly Obama's, once those states were put into play, she needed 65% of the delegates from all the other states just to catch up.

For the record, I think he might have a shot at that 65% in three quarter's of those states at the very least....

 

[Laura]

Honestly I don't think it matters, she will go until the end.... that's the way it is, just take what she's doing in Florida and Michigan.... where everyone had agreed those delegates would not be counted.

Actually what Chuck Todd said, was that she needed 58% from here on out, then he indicated which states remaining they felt were solidly Obama's, once those states were put into play, she needed 65% of the delegates from all the other states just to catch up.

For the record, I think he might have a shot at that 65% in three quarter's of those states at the very least....

I wouldn't count her out just yet. But Barack seems to be gaining on Hillary as the elections are held in each state.

 

[chris1gill]

I wouldn't count her out just yet. But Barack seems to be gaining on Hillary as the elections are held in each state.

I'm definitely not counting her out, it would be foolish to do so. I indicated I thought he could potentially get 65% of 3/4's of the states, that doesn't get him there, whereas she would need 58-65% in every state just to catch up... that's not impossible, but I'm not sure it's likely.... I think we see how the contests in March go & then draw further conclusions, there's nothing more you can do until then other than to volunteer for your candidates campaign.

 

[wvrevy]

I'm definitely not counting her out, it would be foolish to do so. I indicated I thought he could potentially get 65% of 3/4's of the states, that doesn't get him there, whereas she would need 58-65% in every state just to catch up... that's not impossible, but I'm not sure it's likely.... I think we see how the contests in March go & then draw further conclusions, there's nothing more you can do until then other than to volunteer for your candidates campaign.

The party leadership has already started coming out saying that whichever candidate wins the delegate race once all the states have voted should get the vast majority of the support from the "super" delegates. Basically, that means Pelosi, Dean, Gore, and pretty much everyone else will start coming in on Barack's side the further things go along.

In fact...I'll go so far as to say that if the polls hold up and she ends up losing Texas or Ohio, she will drop out before Pennsylvania due to pressure from within the party. There would just be no need for her to continue at that point, and all she would do would be to hurt the party's chances in November.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Honestly I don't think it matters, she will go until the end.... that's the way it is, just take what she's doing in Florida and Michigan.... where everyone had agreed those delegates would not be counted.

Actually what Chuck Todd said, was that she needed 58% from here on out, then he indicated which states remaining they felt were solidly Obama's, once those states were put into play, she needed 65% of the delegates from all the other states just to catch up.

For the record, I think he might have a shot at that 65% in three quarter's of those states at the very least....

I heard on Joe Scarborough this morning that in order to get that 65% to catch up, Hillary would need 70% of the total vote in the next 9-10 odd states. I think she has two chances now, none and less than none. It's time for Barack to go to the DNC and start talking about being the inevitable candidate, start positioning his campaign as such, and make the case that the super delegates should follow. The longer the venom between the Clinton and Obama camps play out, the worse it is come November.

FTR, I loved that after hopelessly waiting for Clinton to concede Wisconsin, or at least congratulate Barack, he started his victory speech halfway through hers. If she can't show a little class, why give the contest's loser the spotlight?

 

[chris1gill]

The party leadership has already started coming out saying that whichever candidate wins the delegate race once all the states have voted should get the vast majority of the support from the "super" delegates. Basically, that means Pelosi, Dean, Gore, and pretty much everyone else will start coming in on Barack's side the further things go along.

In fact...I'll go so far as to say that if the polls hold up and she ends up losing Texas or Ohio, she will drop out before Pennsylvania due to pressure from within the party. There would just be no need for her to continue at that point, and all she would do would be to hurt the party's chances in November.

She's already said she wouldn't drop out before Pennsylvania, I don't believe she will, if she does, I'll owe you a drink, but I don't think it will happen. This is going to roll into May I'm nearly certain. Again, if I'm wrong, I'll owe you a drink....

The Texas polls are interesting, but as we know polls have been so wrong this season, I don't think we can count on them. What we can count on is that he has two weeks to spend in both Ohio and Texas. When he's on the ground, he garner's votes... He can come very close if not take both of those states, or she could hold both those states... I guess we'll just see. I take nothing for granted other than Obama has run a fabulous campaign with few mistakes along the way.

Laugh O Grams, I believe that 70% number is only in effect if he wins the states they believe he will, among them Mississippi, Oregon and a few others, whereas they felt Clinton could hold W. Virginia, Kentucky, and she would have to have wide margins in Ohio and Texas..... It's not a mathematical improbability right now since there are 800 Super Delegates at work.... You don't know who owes who favors......

 

[jme829]

Thanks for braving the cold to cast your vote.

How was the turnout at your polling place?

Honestly, when I was there , only about 5 or 6 people. I was in and out in 5 minutes,. However, i went in the middle of the day and I live in a small town just east of Minneapolis (just over the border). We drove by later and it seemed more cars were going in and out but I really don't know how the overall turnout was. I'm sure cities like Madison, Milwaukee and Green Bay had much bigger turnout than we did. I used to live in Toledo, Ohio and there would be just a few people there when I would vote and Toledo is huge compared to where I live now , although I would hope that Mar. 4 will turn out the voters in Toledo (for Obama of course!).

In that mix of 5 or 6 people thought there was me (late 30ish), an older couple (60-70ish) and 3 or 4 younger kids (college aged) so the few that were there was a good mix of age groups and at least 3 or 4 of us were registering as new voters. (although I just moved here in Aug, so I had to re-register anyways , I'm not a "brand new" voter, just new to Wisconsin).

I pretty much decided that I was voting for Obama about 3 months ago and every time I hear him , it just solidifies my support even more. It was actually nice going in to vote FOR someone. I couldn;t wait to get off of work. Usually I just go in with the "lets get this over with" attitude. Today I was thrilled to vote for such an awesome candidate.!

Did anyone see on CNN that of all the people who decided in the last 30 days who to vote for , about 60% went for Obama. He is really making an impact!

I hope he kicks butt in Ohio and Texas!!

 

[wvrevy]

I heard on Joe Scarborough this morning that in order to get that 65% to catch up, Hillary would need 70% of the total vote in the next 9-10 odd states. I think she has two chances now, none and less than none. It's time for Barack to go to the DNC and start talking about being the inevitable candidate, start positioning his campaign as such, and make the case that the super delegates should follow. The longer the venom between the Clinton and Obama camps play out, the worse it is come November.

FTR, I loved that after hopelessly waiting for Clinton to concede Wisconsin, or at least congratulate Barack, he started his victory speech halfway through hers. If she can't show a little class, why give the contest's loser the spotlight?

I think he started doing that last night. He didn't even mention Hillary in his speech, while mentioning McCain by name several times. He's already starting to move to that November footing to do what needs to be done, regardless, which is to beat the Republicans! (BTW...the other thread is calling him "smug" for doing this. )

As for the speech, word I'm hearing is that he planned to go on when he did because of the overflow crowd in Houston, and Hillary's people found out so they bumped her speech up a bit to try to preempt his. Didn't work out too well for her considering she got bumped off every cable news network the moment he started speaking. I don't know if it's true, but considering the way her campaign has been run - flashes of John Kerry's, frankly - it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[chris1gill]

Did anyone see on CNN that of all the people who decided in the last 30 days who to vote for , about 60% went for Obama. He is really making an impact!

I hope he kicks butt in Ohio and Texas!!

I had not heard that, that's a great number and doesn't surprise me.... but I did hear that of those deciding the day of their primaries, they were breaking for Hillary.

 

[wvrevy]

She's already said she wouldn't drop out before Pennsylvania, I don't believe she will, if she does, I'll owe you a drink, but I don't think it will happen. This is going to roll into May I'm nearly certain. Again, if I'm wrong, I'll owe you a drink.....

So did Mitt Romney.

If the Texas and Ohio delegates end up in Barack's favor - a distinct possibility, even if he loses both, due to the election rules in Texas - I would fully expect to start seeing some endorsements from those people I named if she doesn't drop out. At that point, it would be a statistical impossibility for her to win the delegate race, and the party leadership is desperate to avoid a convention fight over the super delegates. They'll quietly pressure her behind the scenes, and if she doesn't drop out, they'll start coming out publicly for Obama.

 

[Laura]

I'm definitely not counting her out, it would be foolish to do so. I indicated I thought he could potentially get 65% of 3/4's of the states, that doesn't get him there, whereas she would need 58-65% in every state just to catch up... that's not impossible, but I'm not sure it's likely.... I think we see how the contests in March go & then draw further conclusions, there's nothing more you can do until then other than to volunteer for your candidates campaign.

I know, I was agreeing with you. I think things will go Obama's way, but I won't count Clinton out until she says she's withdrawing.